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The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.15 21:25:00 -
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The splash damage of a forge guns shouldn't be higher than railgun turrets. The prototype compressed railgun does 234 splash damage while the standard forge gun does 231 and also the prototype forge gun does 277.2 dmg. The splash damage for it is too damn high! Its not a freakin plasma cannon or a antipersonnel weapon so its splash damage and needs to be reduced. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.15 21:47:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:As a vehicle driver and non-heavy player, I have no issues with the current state of forge guns. People with assault forge guns get on high places and easily kill people with splash damage alone in a variety of ranges and way/situations where the gun isn't intended to be used. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.15 22:45:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:u should blame the damage mods put on to them then... Without damage mods it still takes off too much HP. Its supposed to be an AV weapon not a AP weapon. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.15 23:11:00 -
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Here are some stats:
Standard railgun Splash radius: 2.5 Splash damage: 180.0
Standard Plasma cannon Splash radius: 3.5 Splash damage: 285.0
Standard Forge gun Splash radius: 2.5 Splash damage: 231.0
The splash damage gap between the plasma cannon and the railgun is 105. There is only a 54 damage difference in the splash of the forge gun does compared to a plasma cannon. The forge gun does a whopping 128.3% more splash damage than a railgun turret.
This isn't even accounting for the ridiculously high splash dps that can be achieved from using proto forge guns even without damage mods.
From this and how often the forg gun is abused to get easy kills, I conclude this. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.16 05:07:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:The-Errorist wrote: -- snip of QQ Kitten on Forge Gun Splash -- I have killed* and been killed with Forge Guns of all types. Your assumptions are incorrect and one wonders how you even got to this viewpoint. Every kill of late by FG has been with damage in Excess of 1300HP. Sometimes massively in the case of the Breach variants. They show up on the kill screen and I have Never been killed in Any suit by splash damage from Any Forge Gun. Ever. I look at my kill screen every time. Since that feature has been added FG splash has never killed me. You, @The-Errorist, are mistaken. AKA in error. * I don't use Proto FGs. Yet. I and other people have been killed with splash damage a ton of the time (half the time in my light suits). The splash damage kills more people thank you would like to consider. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.16 05:12:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Does that mean that we need to nerf the PC too?
The Large Rails need a buff.
The FG doesn't need a nerf. What is with people and wanting to nerf Heavy weapons? Their heavy weapons! They're supposed to be "OP" to small suits! You already killed the HMG, so heavies are now dropping the HMG for the AR, but now your trieing to nerf the only heavy gun that isn't completely and totally gimped?
Got a FG problem? Get a buddy, fly a DS up there, and kill him!
Problem Solved! Sorry you have to stop running into enemy fire, and use tactics to kill an enemy, but that's diversity! That's good! I'm not saying that the PC needs a nerf, I'm just saying the FG is encroaching on its role with its splash damage. Splash damage isn't important or even useful for AV weapons like the FG. The nerf I want isn't to direct damage, so it wont affect the AV performance of this heavy weapon, just how well it performs against infantry. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.17 12:36:00 -
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Why a lot of you are against lowering the splash damage of the FG baffles me. Sure there's other things that make the FG a weapon a lot of people prefer to go on high and get kills with, but thats what I'm addressing.
What I'm saying is that compared to large railguns and plasma cannons, its splash damage is too high for an AV weapon. Making it have a lower splash damage is not going to affect its Anti-Vehicle performance. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:53:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:lol a forge gunner doesn't need splash damage with how fkin accurate they are now. Exactly, thats one reason why reducing the splash damage wont be a bad thing. |
The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:57:00 -
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Powerh8er wrote:Without the splashdamage the forge gun is almost helpless in close combat against shotgunners or assault rifles. Thats not intended range the FG is supposed to be effective at or the role its supposed to play, the an AV weapon. |
The-Errorist
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Posted - 2013.10.29 18:41:00 -
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Thanks CCP, the splash radius reduction is great :D! |
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