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Argon Gas
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.15 11:55:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102194&find=unread
Let me ask you a question.
Why is everyone saying that in Uprising aiming sucks?
How about Chromosome? No complaints for the most part.
Do you know what's the difference?
Aim assist.
They turned off some parts of it to remake it, and the result is the wonky aiming we have now.
Those sticks we use to aim?
They were not designed for first person aiming, they were for the most part for stuff like 2D scrollers.
Every single console shooter that is considered to have good aiming has some form or another of aim assist.
The question isn't "Is aim assist bad?" - The question is "How much aim assist is too much?"
There is subtle aim assist, and full on aim bot like aim assist, it all depends on what CCP does. |
Argon Gas
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2013.08.15 12:04:00 -
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Ultimate meow of meows |
Spaceman-Rob
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2013.08.15 12:25:00 -
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Bad company 2 aiming is what they should aim for. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
117
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Posted - 2013.08.15 12:39:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Bad company 2 aiming is what they should aim for.
Chromosome aiming is what they should aim for. |
Spaceman-Rob
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2013.08.15 12:41:00 -
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Kiiran-B wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Bad company 2 aiming is what they should aim for. Chromosome aiming is what they should aim for.
I disagree. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
118
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Posted - 2013.08.15 15:53:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Kiiran-B wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Bad company 2 aiming is what they should aim for. Chromosome aiming is what they should aim for. I disagree.
No you don't, you agree. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
331
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Posted - 2013.08.15 15:57:00 -
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DAMN IT JUST PUT A HAMSTER ON MY RAIL SYSTEM AND IM GOOD TO GO! until recoil from my mass driver knocks the hamster off  |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1019
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Posted - 2013.08.15 15:57:00 -
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As a HMG user i have never understood this "aiming" lark people keep going on about...
Point your gun at the thing you want dead and pull the trigger... Easy Peasy |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
704
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Posted - 2013.08.15 15:59:00 -
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Aim-bot level aim-assist is in-line with New Eden standards, so let's do that. (... its how ships shoot each other)... heh
Discuss.
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low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
299
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:09:00 -
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Argon Gas wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102194&find=unread
Let me ask you a question.
Why is everyone saying that in Uprising aiming sucks?
How about Chromosome? No complaints for the most part.
Do you know what's the difference?
Aim assist.
They turned off some parts of it to remake it, and the result is the wonky aiming we have now.
Those sticks we use to aim?
They were not designed for first person aiming, they were for the most part for stuff like 2D scrollers.
Every single console shooter that is considered to have good aiming has some form or another of aim assist.
The question isn't "Is aim assist bad?" - The question is "How much aim assist is too much?"
There is subtle aim assist, and full on aim bot like aim assist, it all depends on what CCP does.
aim assist is a necessity, and has been in every fps ever, of course.
the problem is aim assist helps the ar's a lot, and there's a lot of ar's.
also, for those of you who don't know the 'scope in' animation when you press and hold l1 is where most of the aim-assist takes place in my experience. |
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low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
299
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:10:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Aim-bot level aim-assist is in-line with New Eden standards, so let's do that. (... its how ships shoot each other)... heh Discuss.
that's not quite right, now is it? i mean, you're not taking into account angular velocity or tracking speed or anything :( |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
Dark Taboo
1859
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:20:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:As a HMG user i have never understood this "aiming" lark people keep going on about...
Point your gun at the thing you want dead and pull the trigger... Easy Peasy
Some people just that bad, they can't even do that. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
110
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:25:00 -
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low genius wrote:
aim assist is a necessity, and has been in every fps ever, of course.
And that is how you know people never played a good fps in their life.
Aim assist is only a necessity if you decide to cripple yourself by using inferior tools, such as a controller, in an FPS. |
Heavy Breaks
No Free Pass
170
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:49:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:low genius wrote:
aim assist is a necessity, and has been in every fps ever, of course.
And that is how you know people never played a good fps in their life. Aim assist is only a necessity if you decide to cripple yourself by using inferior tools, such as a controller, in an FPS.
As a very long served PC FPS player I know I can get HS after HS spin 360 & HS the dude tryin to back shot me with kb/m.
That is like breathing on PC, this is a console FPS however and a vast % of players on console use DS3. It is possible to be good with a DS3 as long as there is a little aim assist, just a little.
I use DS3 btw which is why I suck at dust.  |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2986
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:17:00 -
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Just wondering: would aim assist fix most hit detection (lag) or not?
Believe it or not, hit detection hurts lasers as badly as semi automatic weapons, since they have no spread. |
Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
639
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:22:00 -
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I prefer assist off een in console shooters, sans ones I play casually. Never was my cup of tea to have control yanked away from me. |
Yan Darn
DUST University
Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:40:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:I prefer assist off een in console shooters, sans ones I play casually. Never was my cup of tea to have control yanked away from me.
This - hit detection and smoother turning is a bigger concern for me personally. |
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