DUST Search - [feedback] why do small rail turrets have heat?

Bojo The Mighty wrote:

ladwar wrote:

i know, maybe changing they into sniper turrets would help because even if they change their effectiveness they will still be behind missiles because of heat. i just don't see the 100m range worth overheating*shrug*

is they anything you would change besides the damage %s?
btw bojo fire rate on snipers(normal) is 1 round per 1.2 seconds on rails its 1.1 seconds per round. tactical are faster then small rails and have a fire interval of 1 round per 0.6 seconds.
waiting for blue tag or at least a cpm other then IWS.

the whole idea behind this is turning them from the idea they should be AV to snipers anti-infantry turrets and we know sniper rifles don't have AV abilities.

Well then that means Hybrid Turrets Operators are losing out.
You see Missile Turret operators right now have it all, they have AV and Anti Infantry. If railguns are not addressed to be AV, then all the Hybrid Turret operators would have is Anti Infantry, which means that they have no AV abilities and thus lose out. It's different if they set it up for Anti Infantry, but having Anti Infantry being the only option open to Hybrid turrets seems short stick.


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ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1137	Posted - 2013.08.15 10:11:00 - [1] - Quote now this may seem like a troll but hey hold on. snipers rifles use rail to fire just like small rail turrets do and they don't over heat and rail turrets are just slightly larger rail turrets then sniper rifles but they only have 300m range while the sniper rifle has 599m range? they basically have the same RoF but the rail turrets also have to charge to fire while there is only one charge to fire sniper rifle. it is clear they are underpowered vs other small turrets because they don't have a large enough splash or have a high enough DPS. i suggest removing splash and heat from small rail turrets and increasing fire interval on the compressed to 1.6(they are currently 1.4) and give them them 599m range(all small rails) and hit scan rather then bullet path like FG and large rails. thoughts?
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1137	Posted - 2013.08.15 19:05:00 - [2] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Well, they have a much better RoF than Sniper Rifles Nah I say leave heat, it would be better if they got railguns fixed before adjusting heat measures. The Food Chain of Small Turrets is supposed to be so: Blasters: Best at Anti Infantry, worst at Anti Vehicle Missiles: Equally good at Anti Infantry and Anti Vehicle, but the best at neither Railguns: Best at Anti Vehicle, worst at Anti Infantry. The Current Food Chain of Small Turrets: Blasters: Best at Anti Infantry, Worst at AV Missiles: Good at anti Infantry, best at AV Railguns: Suuuuuuuuuck We need the first set, not the second. CCP make it so! I have 3 wishes after all. i know, maybe changing they into sniper turrets would help because even if they change their effectiveness they will still be behind missiles because of heat. i just don't see the 100m range worth overheatingshrug is they anything you would change besides the damage %s? btw bojo fire rate on snipers(normal) is 1 round per 1.2 seconds on rails its 1.1 seconds per round. tactical are faster then small rails and have a fire interval of 1 round per 0.6 seconds. waiting for blue tag or at least a cpm other then IWS. the whole idea behind this is turning them from the idea they should be AV to snipers anti-infantry turrets and we know sniper rifles don't have AV abilities.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1137	Posted - 2013.08.15 19:48:00 - [3] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: ladwar wrote: i know, maybe changing they into sniper turrets would help because even if they change their effectiveness they will still be behind missiles because of heat. i just don't see the 100m range worth overheatingshrug is they anything you would change besides the damage %s? btw bojo fire rate on snipers(normal) is 1 round per 1.2 seconds on rails its 1.1 seconds per round. tactical are faster then small rails and have a fire interval of 1 round per 0.6 seconds. waiting for blue tag or at least a cpm other then IWS. the whole idea behind this is turning them from the idea they should be AV to snipers anti-infantry turrets and we know sniper rifles don't have AV abilities. Well then that means Hybrid Turrets Operators are losing out. You see Missile Turret operators right now have it all, they have AV and Anti Infantry. If railguns are not addressed to be AV, then all the Hybrid Turret operators would have is Anti Infantry, which means that they have no AV abilities and thus lose out. It's different if they set it up for Anti Infantry, but having Anti Infantry being the only option open to Hybrid turrets seems short stick. they have to come out with more turrets eventually and i seen assault dropships fitted with blasters kill installations & tanks. i don't see the need for them to stay gimped by being geared toward AV.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1163	Posted - 2013.08.18 07:59:00 - [4] - Quote Sardonk Eternia wrote: Bumping because WTF. WHY are small rails so terrible? They surely do need a fix. thanks, they do need to fit a role because they are half way AV and half way AI making them halfassed junk that doesn't work