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Denidil Taureran Turalyon 514 20	Posted - 2013.08.14 17:52:00 - [1] - Quote So i discovered the game has a 30 fitting limit, and as a player who likes having a lot of utility this bothers me a lot. I want to be able to have a collection of fits for different things, and I want an effective way of organizing them (other than naming tricks). So I have two proposals Up the cap of number of fits to 250 Allow us to organize fits into folders. I know I personally would have "Frontline", "Sniper", "AV", "Logistics" and "Scout" folders the moment we got this feature.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 271	Posted - 2013.08.14 19:42:00 - [2] - Quote In the end I will only have like 7-20 fits so personally I wouldn't need the increased cap but I know that different players require more fits than others due to the way there mind works. I would say 50-90 fits would be a good enough cap. Fitting folders is a nice idea! Would be optional though, right? Currently I would only have "Starter" and "Tactics" but later will add "Logistics" and "Proto". `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Denidil Taureran Turalyon 514 20	Posted - 2013.08.14 20:07:00 - [3] - Quote yeah optional - you can define your own. obviously it can come with a predefined "starter fits" folder (that you can delete). I am obviously one of those players that makes loadouts for different situations.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 271	Posted - 2013.08.14 20:15:00 - [4] - Quote Denidil Taureran wrote: yeah optional - you can define your own. obviously it can come with a predefined "starter fits" folder (that you can delete). I am obviously one of those players that makes loadouts for different situations. Overall the idea itself will only help DUST and I can't see how it would, in anyway, hurt the game so +1. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 32	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:19:00 - [5] - Quote I fully support the idea. With around 12 million Sp I'm experimenting with different racial suits and gear and this would certainly help as I continue to move laterally with some tactical based load outs.
Funkmaster Whale 0uter.Heaven EoN. 227	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:36:00 - [6] - Quote This would definitely be a cool little feature to add in. Right now I'm having to use my own alphabetical organization system but this would be a simple way to make it more convenient.
Denidil Taureran Turalyon 514 23	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:59:00 - [7] - Quote yeah i use number prefixes.. i think i need to do a re-org again to make it easier to separate gear tier and role.
Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1411	Posted - 2013.08.15 00:35:00 - [8] - Quote Denidil Taureran wrote: yeah i use number prefixes.. i think i need to do a re-org again to make it easier to separate gear tier and role. That's what I have. I've pretty much invented my own dewey decimal system. I use the first number to sort out the different main weapons the fits would have, the second number denotes the equipment and the last two letters indicate the grenade type. Any special notes come after that, usually what variant of the weapon I am using or if it's all tank no gank. you get the idea. example - 1.1.LC = a scrambler rifle with a scanner and locus grenades 1.1.LC ascr = same as above with an assault SCR 2.2.FX = LR with nanohives and flux nades. 1.L124.AV = a logi with AV nades, scanners hives and uplinks. It's been working just fine for me for the past few months.
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 271	Posted - 2013.08.15 02:46:00 - [9] - Quote I simply give mine a name that represents the class based on my previous FPS experiences. I also add a letter, number, or "+" before the name to signify the quality of the load out or if I should start build up to the next level. Examples: Z - AV = "Z" is used to keep it at the bottom of the list and represents a starter fit. M - AV = "M" tells me that there is at least one item on the fit that is MLT AND there are no items above STD level. 1 - AV = "1" tells me that all gear is STD or higher. 2 - AV = "2" tells me that I have all the ADV that I can fit, with any other filled slots being STD. "3" would mean Proto. +1 - AV = "+" tells me that all gear is at the needed level or higher. It also means that I need to be focusing my SP on this specific fit. The name (AV) fallowing the honorific would tell me the purpose or play style the fit is meant for. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Denidil Taureran Turalyon 514 24	Posted - 2013.08.15 18:15:00 - [10] - Quote Yeah.. folders would be better to navigate - at minimum they should up the number of fits we can have

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 523	Posted - 2013.08.16 02:58:00 - [11] - Quote As a logi, it can be rough having so many different fittings for different situations, not to mention having to have cheap fittings, expensive fittings, and everywhere in between. +1 This is something I would love to see. BTW I need somewhere to put all my non logi militia fittings as well.
Denidil Taureran Turalyon 514 24	Posted - 2013.08.16 03:35:00 - [12] - Quote exactly! here is my matrix Gal Logi, Gal Assault Assault Rifles, Sniper Rifles, Swarm Launchers +Elite pack and Merc Pack fittings Roles: Front Line (Logi and Assault variants) Anti-Armor (Logi and Assault variants) Snipe (Logi and Assault variants) Logistics Scout harassment (hacking suits, uplink scouts, etc) multiplied by Adv and Basic (i don't have proto yet)
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention 1496	Posted - 2013.08.17 16:26:00 - [13] - Quote Denidil Taureran wrote: So i discovered the game has a 30 fitting limit, and as a player who likes having a lot of utility this bothers me a lot. I want to be able to have a collection of fits for different things, and I want an effective way of organizing them (other than naming tricks). So I have two proposals Up the cap of number of fits to 250 Allow us to organize fits into folders. I know I personally would have "Frontline", "Sniper", "AV", "Logistics" and "Scout" folders the moment we got this feature. I have been in support of this since closed beta, especially the addition of folders. +1 to you for keeping the dream alive. Cross
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 461	Posted - 2013.08.17 16:57:00 - [14] - Quote Agreed. I personally name mine by number then frame. The numver is for the fits I most commonly use: 1 - MLT: RF/AV/NH It's a militia suit with a standard AR (RF means rapid fire), AV grenades and a nanohive. 5 - PRO: RF/LOCUS/CH Proto suit with rapid fire duvolle AR, locus nades and compact hive. Easy :)
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 63	Posted - 2013.08.17 17:07:00 - [15] - Quote I don't know if I really need much more than 30 fits, but folders are a total no-brainer
Sardonk Eternia Multnomah Interstellar Holdings Inc. 139	Posted - 2013.08.18 09:36:00 - [16] - Quote Fully agree. As a Gallente logi I have a lot of loadouts with different equipment/weapon configurations, not even counting variations to amount of tank vs speed etc. folders would really really help to access appropriate fittings in the heat of battle.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 668	Posted - 2013.08.18 10:14:00 - [17] - Quote +1 once more. To help devs weight the need for this, here's some links to previous supporters: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=321373#post321373 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=551837#post551837
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 2571	Posted - 2013.08.18 10:16:00 - [18] - Quote +1. I have lots of these, and folders would be nice too. As we're sharing naming conventions, I name mine by frame race, tech level - weapon, grenade, equipment. So my proto gallogi with a scrambler rifle and locus grenade and uplink is GPRO-SCRLU.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative.. 668	Posted - 2013.08.18 10:21:00 - [19] - Quote An interesting detail: Once CCP PC team (true grit?) was surprised to see that people were using only and only their proto suits in corp battles. Well there's no wonder if we can't have ready fittings for budget options - NO-ONE is gonna delete and redo fittings during battle! These are some examples: - All standard - Cost-effective - Normal Corp Match - De Luxe (officer gear). The low number of fits resonate even into pub matches and are one factor making new player's experience even worse: proto stomps will happen anyways, but there's really no other option. I, for example, am using always proto because there's no room for advanced loadouts. Just can't be bothered into deleting-recreating business.
XxGhazbaranxX Bannana Boat Corp 283	Posted - 2013.08.18 10:22:00 - [20] - Quote definately necessary. As a logi i have many combinations of equipments and weapons to ft my squads needs. having a limit to how many fits i have is a minor bother that i would like ccp fix. also i would love folders becaus it woul be nice to classify and organize my suits.

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2142	Posted - 2013.08.27 11:15:00 - [21] - Quote I agree, but it should be with the provision of some sort of organizational system (folders, pages, etc.) so it doesn't get out of hand. I haven't skilled into any suits or any weapons (saving SP since May respec for new content), and I still run out of fittings.
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 65	Posted - 2013.08.27 14:04:00 - [22] - Quote Denidil Taureran wrote: So i discovered the game has a 30 fitting limit, and as a player who likes having a lot of utility this bothers me a lot. I want to be able to have a collection of fits for different things, and I want an effective way of organizing them (other than naming tricks). So I have two proposals Up the cap of number of fits to 250 Allow us to organize fits into folders. I know I personally would have "Frontline", "Sniper", "AV", "Logistics" and "Scout" folders the moment we got this feature. Excellent idea. Would also be very helpful for a "sort" function.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 62	Posted - 2013.08.27 14:59:00 - [23] - Quote Denidil Taureran wrote: So i discovered the game has a 30 fitting limit, and as a player who likes having a lot of utility this bothers me a lot. I want to be able to have a collection of fits for different things, and I want an effective way of organizing them (other than naming tricks). So I have two proposals Up the cap of number of fits to 250 Allow us to organize fits into folders. I know I personally would have "Frontline", "Sniper", "AV", "Logistics" and "Scout" folders the moment we got this feature. What the hell are you going to do with 250 friggin' fits?
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 65	Posted - 2013.08.27 15:01:00 - [24] - Quote General Erick wrote: Denidil Taureran wrote: So i discovered the game has a 30 fitting limit, and as a player who likes having a lot of utility this bothers me a lot. I want to be able to have a collection of fits for different things, and I want an effective way of organizing them (other than naming tricks). So I have two proposals Up the cap of number of fits to 250 Allow us to organize fits into folders. I know I personally would have "Frontline", "Sniper", "AV", "Logistics" and "Scout" folders the moment we got this feature. What the hell are you going to do with 250 friggin' fits? Spend the battle time looking for the "right" fit?
Tal-Rakken DUST University Ivy League 69	Posted - 2013.08.27 15:50:00 - [25] - Quote Dear god this would be perfect I'm usually the first to say get to the basics first but this idea is just pure gold!!! I personally use fl/av/ow to sort my suits(frontline/av/over watch) and then put he isk value and brief description. When I hit my cap I just delete most of my fits and just rebuild the ones I use.
Melchiah ARANeAE the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 19	Posted - 2013.08.27 16:54:00 - [26] - Quote This would be tremendously helpful as I run Assault, Logi, Scout and Heavy And I always have multiple fittings of every suit with suitable weapons and equipment. As for naming I go: class - Primary Weapon - equipment. So an assault suit with AR and Nanohive would be ASLT AR NH.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention 1651	Posted - 2013.08.27 16:56:00 - [27] - Quote bump of great justice! Just in case anyone is keeping score this feature will continue to become more valuable and needed as the game goes on, new content is added and Mercs gain more SP. Let's get it taken care of before it becomes a hindrance to more of the population.
Flint Beastgood III GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 48	Posted - 2013.08.27 17:14:00 - [28] - Quote Hell yeah! I need this in my life. +1 Scrolling through the list in the heat of battle trying to spawn on an uplink that could be destroyed any moment only to fail because the desired fitting takes too long to get to - so annoying! I am not quite at the limit yet but only because I refuse to make more whilst there is no grouping option. I just alter fittings on the fly when I need a slightly different version of a certain fitting.
Ras Orloc Bloody Palm Militia 0	Posted - 2013.08.27 17:28:00 - [29] - Quote +1
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 201	Posted - 2013.08.27 17:39:00 - [30] - Quote Denidil Taureran wrote: So i discovered the game has a 30 fitting limit, and as a player who likes having a lot of utility this bothers me a lot. I want to be able to have a collection of fits for different things, and I want an effective way of organizing them (other than naming tricks). So I have two proposals Up the cap of number of fits to 250 Allow us to organize fits into folders. I know I personally would have "Frontline", "Sniper", "AV", "Logistics" and "Scout" folders the moment we got this feature. As a player that has 5+ fittings for sniping alone, I could really use both the increased limit and folders. +1

Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2195	Posted - 2013.08.29 18:35:00 - [31] - Quote Also worth considering how easily officer weapons can multiply fittings. We don't get more 1-3 of these as a reward per match. This is by CCP's design. So, officer weapon fittings will by necessity be only good for a few uses, and can clutter up your fittings. Really, many rewards we receive are limited in quantity and will generate limited numbers of fittings in our list. CCP even directly sells fittings straight out, which are of no use to us as items integrated into our current framework, but rather server as completely separate fits to try out. We could use some folders and a higher cap. For great justice.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2256	Posted - 2013.09.03 14:57:00 - [32] - Quote Stuff like this seems to lose traction after the feedback rush from a new update.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2325	Posted - 2013.09.11 07:21:00 - [33] - Quote I've had to delete fittings constantly since 1.4 released to be able to make new suits... what a pain.
fawkuima juggalo Pawns and Kings The Superpowers 23	Posted - 2013.09.11 12:02:00 - [34] - Quote Denidil Taureran wrote: So i discovered the game has a 30 fitting limit, and as a player who likes having a lot of utility this bothers me a lot. I want to be able to have a collection of fits for different things, and I want an effective way of organizing them (other than naming tricks). So I have two proposals Up the cap of number of fits to 250 Allow us to organize fits into folders. I know I personally would have "Frontline", "Sniper", "AV", "Logistics" and "Scout" folders the moment we got this feature. yes sir!
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2013.09.11 12:27:00 - [35] - Quote A 100 suit cap is fine, with the folders have vechiles to, you can choose to deploy an entire folder or tab or whatever, which spawns you into your vechile as its dropped off!! These tabs or folders would only have 1suit 1vechile each!!
ALPHA DECRIPTER M.E.R.C. Conventional Forces 432	Posted - 2013.09.11 23:51:00 - [36] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: A 100 suit cap is fine, with the folders have vechiles to, you can choose to deploy an entire folder or tab or whatever, which spawns you into your vechile as its dropped off!! These tabs or folders would only have 1suit 1vechile each!! You make ALOT of drivers/pilots happy with the idea of spawning in there vehicle lol. `Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 1693	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:30:00 - [37] - Quote This idea becomes more and more needed the higher my SP gets and the more competitive PC and FW battles I play. There is no viable reason why Merc should have to rebuild the same fittings over and over again just because they sometimes fill more roles than the current limit accounts for. Nor is there any reason why Merc should be required to scroll through their entire fittings list to select a fitting. CCP this really needs to happen. 0.02 ISK Cross
CLONE117 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 339	Posted - 2013.09.12 18:40:00 - [38] - Quote i like this idea but im concerned how this would be implemented..such as would it take longer to select a fitting like when switching to a different fit from the supply depot such and such.. i kinda think the limit should be uped to around 60 or so fittings for my future fittings...
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2347	Posted - 2013.09.15 05:12:00 - [39] - Quote CLONE117 wrote: i like this idea but im concerned how this would be implemented..such as would it take longer to select a fitting like when switching to a different fit from the supply depot such and such.. i kinda think the limit should be uped to around 60 or so fittings for my future fittings... Yeah, this is also a concern. There's a certain amount of "lag" when going through suits already, and there's no way to "select" what suit you're going to start a match with. The first match of the day will always put you in your "default", but you'll be in whatever you ran last after that with no way to switch without exiting the game (possibly logging out). So, we're always saddled with having to pan through our suits looking for the right one. People that bothered to reset and favorite some opening suit for a PC battle have an advantage compared to people struggling with a list of suits. Speed is huge in this game: speed to spawn, speed to call in a vehicle, speed to hack. The slow person doesn't get an overwatch on that building, and that fast person has effectively swung the balance in favor of their team for their match. So, there's cross-purposes here: 1. We have an inconvenient system for selecting suits prior to battle that requires exiting the game (or logging out) if it's not your first match. 2. The speed with which you can start your deployment (select a suit, etc.) can be a large factor in having an advantage in more competitive matches. 3. The current list format of suits can be slow to navigate, with cursor lag as you go through the suits. 4. A larger list could possibly compound the above problem, and so any solution would hopefully both expand slots AND allow for efficient organization AND load quickly. 5. As you accumulate a large amount of SP (and spend Aurum) odds are you can easily have a variety of suits with well-defined purposes that you'd want to be able to field. This number is often much larger than 30. You're liable to have multiple AV fittings for different situations (swarms, not-swarms), and any given fit will likely have cheap/free, STD, ADV, and PRO versions so you can field the right level of gear for the situation. The lack of more than 30 slots means you have to delete/remake fittings constantly. Something to keep in mind. We all march towards proto gear, but at the same time the items you release in Merc packs, etc. are STD level. We need more space if you want us to pay money for these other suits, because we don't really have room for all of them now.
Arc-08 Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 115	Posted - 2013.10.19 15:18:00 - [40] - Quote Oh dude, 250 fitting cap is way to high, NOBODY would have any time for that, even if it was all in folders you'd have an insane amount of folders, and your folders would be insanely long. Not to mention how much LAG this would cause, each battle having to load all of your fittings would make you LAG, and probably the game LAG with all of those fittings being loaded I'd say that people are doing fine with a 30 fit limit, so if anything increase it to 60, that is obviously enough. 90 max, there is really no reason it would need to go any higher than 90. I could see CCP making a skill that you gotta spec into to get more fittings. A skill called tidiness, the more tidiness you have the more you can fit into a small area XD, but lvl 5 gets you 90 fittings.

Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 1040	Posted - 2013.10.19 15:30:00 - [41] - Quote +1 for Folders
Denidil Taureran Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 51	Posted - 2013.10.21 13:23:00 - [42] - Quote to the people saying "250 is too high"... nobody is forcing you to fill out your cap. Some of us run higher fitting counts and the number was picked so that we would be unlikely to hit it.


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