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falzar102
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:58:00 -
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OK, so we were having a convo the other night and apparently the commando suit gets really high melee damage. In addition, if you spec into melee and put all melee damage mods on the highs you can deal 750 damage. Can a mathematical genius take a look at these figures and confirm?
Personally I would not be happy if one of these guys jumped on my HAV/LAV and punched the thing to dealth. Nor would I be impressed if I am one shot by melee in most suits. |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:59:00 -
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Commandos are paper thin. |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
120
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:00:00 -
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If a guy can get in my face without dying, or sneak up behind me, I won't really mind.
That's basically how a feel about scout suits and they're even faster than commandos. |
HandOGod
Taints of Tartarus
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:01:00 -
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..... but melee'ing you have to be like really really close
grenades do more damage and you can throw those from a safe distance
If i had a HAV/LAV and someone jumped on it and beat it to death with their bare heads I'd probably pee a little laughing |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:04:00 -
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Ugh, vehicles resist melee and small arms fire you guys should know this
Even on foot though I wouldnt be that worried about it since due to travel speed and how unreliably you can actually hit someone with a melee attack its only really good for sneak attacks and insanely cramped spaces |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1766
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:08:00 -
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Much more effective on a Minmatar medium, someone was able to get 480 Damage, compared to 750 it may not seem like much, but with the speed of the Minmatar, the mixture of Myfiboral Stimulants and Shield Extenders offering a better shield tank, its definitely the best choice if you're looking to go around beating the **** out of everyone. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:12:00 -
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You can get 694 HP melee damage on the commando, but your EHP will be at max 788 HP with one updated complex plate. No repper. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2974
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:40:00 -
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Heavier frames get higher melee damage. They're slow enough that a melee is unlikely anyhow. |
Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:43:00 -
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Mamertine Son wrote:If a guy can get in my face without dying, or sneak up behind me, I won't really mind.
That's basically how a feel about scout suits and they're even faster than commandos.
Word.
Good luck sneaking up on me in one of those, I would send u a mail saying gg and I would thoroughly deserve to die |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
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Posted - 2013.08.14 16:38:00 -
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falzar102 wrote:OK, so we were having a convo the other night and apparently the commando suit gets really high melee damage. In addition, if you spec into melee and put all melee damage mods on the highs you can deal 750 damage. Can a mathematical genius take a look at these figures and confirm?
Personally I would not be happy if one of these guys jumped on my HAV/LAV and punched the thing to dealth. Nor would I be impressed if I am one shot by melee in most suits.
I actually realized all of this 2 days ago. 1 proto melee damage mod gives 420 damage, easily enough to one hit scouts. But please, do not request this be fixed. The commando is poor enough as is, and will be truly outclassed when the armour changes come in, because it can only stack on one armour mod without reps. |
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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
424
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Posted - 2013.08.15 06:36:00 -
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173 armor
243 shield
got melee killed from two hits to my back. Person didn't use Nova Knives. |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2013.08.15 06:38:00 -
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Commandos should be able to kill those filthy scouts with one hit to the face. |
falzar102
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.08.15 08:23:00 -
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Lillica Deathdealer wrote:falzar102 wrote:OK, so we were having a convo the other night and apparently the commando suit gets really high melee damage. In addition, if you spec into melee and put all melee damage mods on the highs you can deal 750 damage. Can a mathematical genius take a look at these figures and confirm?
Personally I would not be happy if one of these guys jumped on my HAV/LAV and punched the thing to dealth. Nor would I be impressed if I am one shot by melee in most suits. I actually realized all of this 2 days ago. 1 proto melee damage mod gives 420 damage, easily enough to one hit scouts. But please, do not request this be fixed. The commando is poor enough as is, and will be truly outclassed when the armour changes come in, because it can only stack on one armour mod without reps.
The commando is a fatr lump of crap with low EHP and reduced movement speed. The drawbacks by far outweigh the benefits. |
Delta Iddon
No Free Pass
61
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Posted - 2013.08.15 08:29:00 -
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falzar102 wrote:OK, so we were having a convo the other night and apparently the commando suit gets really high melee damage. In addition, if you spec into melee and put all melee damage mods on the highs you can deal 750 damage. Can a mathematical genius take a look at these figures and confirm?
Personally I would not be happy if one of these guys jumped on my HAV/LAV and punched the thing to dealth. Nor would I be impressed if I am one shot by melee in most suits.
Currently the most optimal melee suit is the proto minmatar assault as it has more stamina and speed with a smaller profile with 600 melee damage
After multiple trial and error i can confirm that melee does 0% damage vs HAVs and LAVs, but you can punch the driver and passengers out of LAVs |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.08.15 10:16:00 -
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Delta Iddon wrote:falzar102 wrote:OK, so we were having a convo the other night and apparently the commando suit gets really high melee damage. In addition, if you spec into melee and put all melee damage mods on the highs you can deal 750 damage. Can a mathematical genius take a look at these figures and confirm?
Personally I would not be happy if one of these guys jumped on my HAV/LAV and punched the thing to dealth. Nor would I be impressed if I am one shot by melee in most suits. Currently the most optimal melee suit is the proto minmatar assault as it has more stamina and speed with a smaller profile with 600 melee damage After multiple trial and error i can confirm that melee does 0% damage vs HAVs and LAVs, but you can punch the driver and passengers out of LAVs
Ahhh man i was gonna ask if you could Melee damage a HAV, would be funny to see a squad of six commandos run and punch a HAV to death. |
Delta Iddon
No Free Pass
61
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Posted - 2013.08.15 10:25:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:Delta Iddon wrote:falzar102 wrote:OK, so we were having a convo the other night and apparently the commando suit gets really high melee damage. In addition, if you spec into melee and put all melee damage mods on the highs you can deal 750 damage. Can a mathematical genius take a look at these figures and confirm?
Personally I would not be happy if one of these guys jumped on my HAV/LAV and punched the thing to dealth. Nor would I be impressed if I am one shot by melee in most suits. Currently the most optimal melee suit is the proto minmatar assault as it has more stamina and speed with a smaller profile with 600 melee damage After multiple trial and error i can confirm that melee does 0% damage vs HAVs and LAVs, but you can punch the driver and passengers out of LAVs Ahhh man i was gonna ask if you could Melee damage a HAV, would be funny to see a squad of six commandos run and punch a HAV to death.
Commando's only get a maximum of 691 melee damage compared to the minny assaults 594, its not worth the speed and stamina loss |
Misses Trickster
Industrial removal service
7
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Posted - 2013.08.15 11:24:00 -
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HandOGod wrote:..... but melee'ing you have to be like really really close
grenades do more damage and you can throw those from a safe distance
If i had a HAV/LAV and someone jumped on it and beat it to death with their bare heads I'd probably pee a little laughing
One had a game just after nova knifes came out.. buy jumped on my tank and started stabbing it to death.. took him 10 mins but i let him kill it |
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