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Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
1040
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Posted - 2013.08.14 12:57:00 -
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The Scrambler Rifles already struggle to eat their way through armor. Some days it's a real chore to finish someone off who has a decent armor buffer.
With the new changes to the plates, the SCRs are going to have an even harder time taking down players. Will the SCR get a tweak to be balanced in tune with the new upcoming changes? |
steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
1077
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:00:00 -
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No they don't SCR can kill quite happly you now face a choice do u kill shields or amour. This is game finally working as intended |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1082
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:03:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:The Scrambler Rifles already struggle to eat their way through armor. Some days it's a real chore to finish someone off who has a decent armor buffer.
With the new changes to the plates, the SCRs are going to have an even harder time taking down players. Will the SCR get a tweak to be balanced in tune with the new upcoming changes?
This could be an issue, however, SCRs work best w/ damage mods. So if you feel more comfortable having mostly armor HP now, you are more likely going to run with damage mods. This means that the SCRs will in general be hitting harder.
Hopefully that will mean more +10% damage mods out there,
-which means longer range engagements
-which means more spread out targets
-which means MDs have to pick targets
-which means passive scanners will be less effective
lots of trickle down effects... |
Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1763
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:06:00 -
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No, they're already pretty damn good.
I'm expecting them to get a nerf, not because I want it, but when the majority of the playerbase are shield tankers, and once hit detection gets a fix, you've got the perfect recipe for Caldari QQ. |
Argon Gas
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:10:00 -
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I never found it a problem to chew through armor with the SCR. |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1082
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:11:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:No, they're already pretty damn good.
I'm expecting them to get a nerf, not because I want it, but when the majority of the playerbase are shield tankers, and once hit detection gets a fix, you've got the perfect recipe for Caldari QQ.
The aim assist will come first. That's when you will have Duvolles and their feather triggers killing at 150% of their optimal range regularly. Scrambler rifles will still have to compete with that extended RoF of ARs.
I really think the key to killing will soon be surprise. Damage application effectivenss will only increase, therefore the only other area we have to work with is stealthiness.
Medium suits with dampening V and a PRO dampener can hide from ADV scanners and just about all passive scanners. |
Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
113
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:12:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:No they don't SCR can kill quite happly you now face a choice do u kill shields or amour. This is game finally working as intended
Exactly this.
All weapons aren't meant to be hybrid. The mechanics of this game are getting lost. It's a teamwork based game. You take down shield and your pal finishes with the mass driver. Scrambler is most affective against shield and it should stay that way. |
Malek McRoland
DUST University
Ivy League
19
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:19:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:No, they're already pretty damn good.
I'm expecting them to get a nerf, not because I want it, but when the majority of the playerbase are shield tankers, and once hit detection gets a fix, you've got the perfect recipe for Caldari QQ.
The nerf will most likely be a damage nerf. The cooldown and ranger are perfect as-is.
Beren Hurin wrote:
Hopefully that will mean more +10% damage mods out there.
I can personally say an Assault Scrambler rifle with two Complex Dam. mods shreds both shields and armor very well. |
cuelyn
ELEPHANT RIDERS II
0
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:45:00 -
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The scrambler rifle is perfect the way it is. I overheat it plenty when facing multiple contacts. Armor tankers are harder to kill but they are suppose to be. That's the point. But I still kill them. No nerf nor buff is needed. I'm glad the flaylock got it but everything else is working fine. Wish ppl would stop complaining everytime the got killed by a weapon that wasn't the one they use. Think about it ppl what's the point of having all the choices of weapons if everyone has to run regular ARs because that's what the brainless mass wants. Personally I hate the mass driver but I understand it's a part of the game. Not going to put up a post saying it needs nerfed. I just get distance or height on them. Play smart. If you keep running to your death that's your own fault. Take a min breathe and out position your enemy and use tactics. Guns don't kill ppl , ppl do. The gun is only as good as the person holding it. |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
118
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:46:00 -
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on an SCR buff.
The scrambler does well enough to armor alone and I usually switch to an SMG anyway to finish people off. Yeah its going to get a little more difficult but I think that's going to be good for everyone. |
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1061
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:02:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:The Scrambler Rifles already struggle to eat their way through armor. Some days it's a real chore to finish someone off who has a decent armor buffer.
With the new changes to the plates, the SCRs are going to have an even harder time taking down players. Will the SCR get a tweak to be balanced in tune with the new upcoming changes?
SCR, SMG.
SCR, Locus.
SCR, 2 Charged SCR.
SCR, Flaylock. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Generals
EoN.
1042
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:00:00 -
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*sigh* you got me, it was a thinly veiled ploy to vouch for a SCR buff
>.>
<.<
The Imperial is my baby |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
555
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:02:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:The Scrambler Rifles already struggle to eat their way through armor. Some days it's a real chore to finish someone off who has a decent armor buffer.
With the new changes to the plates, the SCRs are going to have an even harder time taking down players. Will the SCR get a tweak to be balanced in tune with the new upcoming changes?
And a cal logi buff to..dual tanking just got that much better |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens
League of Infamy
145
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:03:00 -
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My Carthum Assault is...godly. I'm afraid to bring it out sometimes. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
964
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:05:00 -
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Thats like complaining that flux grenades suck now because they don't hurt armour.
It's still going to be deadly.
It's still going to rip caldari apart. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
315
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:38:00 -
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Where is this "but-this-weapon-is-designed-against-armor"-crowd when you need them... |
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