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True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1239	Posted - 2013.08.14 12:22:00 - [1] - Quote Then the True Sons and Daughters of Athra will await the words of our Empress. As the scriptures say Book of Reclaiming "I give to you the destiny of Faith, And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13 Perhaps the Empress will consider it time to Reclaim the Matari in God's name. However I sincerely hope Lord (Merimeth) Sarum does not do anything foolish, my oaths of Loyalty to the Sarum Family are binding, my honour is on the line, and should House Sarum make any moves against the Tribes it is my duty to back them. "I will not hesitate when the test of Faith finds me, for only the strongest conviction will open the gates of paradise. My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity." - The Scriptures, Prophet Kuria, Paladin's Creed The Paladin's Creed is my creed. I must live by it.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1240	Posted - 2013.08.14 12:30:00 - [2] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: .... What true said. ... Ooohhh man if she goes for this we can finally start restoring the glory of the empire. There are a lot of immortals waiting to see how this one plays out :-) I hope you will support us brother. Going into combat alone is a daunting prospect indeed. If Lord Sarum diverges from the Empress' will I do not know how I shall deal with the repercussions with PIE. Glory to the Empress.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1240	Posted - 2013.08.14 12:44:00 - [3] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: You know I will be the first boot on the ground in any reclaiming though in the event of a split my loyalty is too God's chosen empress. Though the true faithfull will never split from the empire so I doubt it will be an issue :-) With immortal troops and the 1st gens that handed themselves in she has the force she needs to get the ball rolling Yeah it would get messy for me since I am tied to the Sarum Family but the empress is also a member of the Sarum household.... Such is a test of faith.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1253	Posted - 2013.08.14 20:41:00 - [4] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: While I would love to bring truth and enlightenment to the Republic, I will put my faith in Empress Jamyl's word for it is pure. Whatever the call, I will not hide from my duty. Sergamon Draco wrote: Ok 1 question what if you hear your god almighty`s voice and it told you to kill your empress would you do it? Don't be foolish now. Indeed this is foolish.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1260	Posted - 2013.08.14 21:39:00 - [5] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Can us Minmatars have no problems? It seems like whenever I read the news, something is happening to my people. Are we made only to feel nothing but pain? If a war comes along, I'll be behind my people 100%. We deserve some happiness and hopefully the slaves back in Matar. Its because your people are so volatile that you suffer and this suffering is of your own doing. We Amarr will uplift you from your ignorance and squalor and bring you into the empire where you may all know true peace equally as children of God.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1260	Posted - 2013.08.14 21:44:00 - [6] - Quote Jedah McClintock wrote: Alas no, Gomes. Looks like I'm gonna be heading back to Matar and tacking up contracts. Screw profitability, I don't care if I go broke buying up gear and vehicles fighting against this invasion. I swear on my dubious honor I'm going to do everything I can to make that little yappy dog upstart succumb to shame and failure for trying to use my people as a stepping stone for his ambitions. Then why don't you blame the Gallente for using your race as pawns?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1264	Posted - 2013.08.14 22:06:00 - [7] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: Can us Minmatars have no problems? It seems like whenever I read the news, something is happening to my people. Are we made only to feel nothing but pain? If a war comes along, I'll be behind my people 100%. We deserve some happiness and hopefully the slaves back in Matar. Its because your people are so volatile that you suffer and this suffering is of your own doing. We Amarr will uplift you from your ignorance and squalor and bring you into the empire where you may all know true peace equally as children of God. Sorry but I don't want your "uplifting". We only fight with such anger because it seems as it everyone is pulling and pushing us. Slavery is not the answer for such "uplifting". I mean you have to drug us just for us to be happy with your so called uplifting. You just don't understand the nature of Slavery in Amarrian culture. Its is our test to you to see if you are ready to join the Empire. In any case what your people want it not an issue. The Amarr are the chosen children of God, they who are to bring the light of the Lord to the furthest reaches of space, to reclaim the stars in the name of mankind, and they who are to unite the galaxy under one banner.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1266	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:33:00 - [8] - Quote Jedah McClintock wrote: So we get to prove we are worthy with backbreaking labor and the Amarr get to benefit from free labor. That's awfully convenient for their religion. As for the Gallente, they have a lot of hyprocritical bigots but left to our own devices we have little to worry about. Last I checked, the leadership among the Gallente isn't calling for holy war to expand institutional racism. As I have said before the Amarr suffered greatly on their home planet of Athra, we seek to allow you to go through those same trials so that you may understand the word of God in better context. "Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1275	Posted - 2013.08.15 05:10:00 - [9] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Jedah McClintock wrote: Sounds like in light of recent events somebody just wants their slaves back. Dress it up all you want with scripture. Take the same man on the same job, but two scenarios. The first he is a free man, the other enslaved. Do the Amarr really get off so much on taking away his agency, his dignity, that it's worth all the extra costs of keeping him down as opposed to paying him the market rate for an honest day's work? A slave will do what he has to in order to not be beaten, starved, or otherwise abused in ways I'd rather not dwell on. A free man selling his labor will do his best to cement a reputation for quality. Besides, nobody gets slaves to handle a stock portfolio or to perform surgery. All that human potential is squandered for the benefit of an elite. Aren't you also screwing over your lower class peoples by shutting them out of low skill jobs you impose on slaves? ((Going to go out of character for a bit, so forgive me. It really irks me that no one actually looks at how slaves are treated in Amarr society and instead look at how slaves are treated in the history of Earth.)) Let's be honest here, if the Empire were to reinstate a Reclaiming in the traditional sense of conquer many Minmatar would end up with better living conditions and a brighter future than they do currently. Agreed but in all honesty our treaties with CONCORD would cause serious issue for any real form of reinstatement of the Reclaiming. However there are other ways to Reclaim the stars without sending in thousands of ships.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1278	Posted - 2013.08.15 09:01:00 - [10] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Jedah McClintock wrote: Sounds like in light of recent events somebody just wants their slaves back. Dress it up all you want with scripture. Take the same man on the same job, but two scenarios. The first he is a free man, the other enslaved. Do the Amarr really get off so much on taking away his agency, his dignity, that it's worth all the extra costs of keeping him down as opposed to paying him the market rate for an honest day's work? A slave will do what he has to in order to not be beaten, starved, or otherwise abused in ways I'd rather not dwell on. A free man selling his labor will do his best to cement a reputation for quality. Besides, nobody gets slaves to handle a stock portfolio or to perform surgery. All that human potential is squandered for the benefit of an elite. Aren't you also screwing over your lower class peoples by shutting them out of low skill jobs you impose on slaves? ((Going to go out of character for a bit, so forgive me. It really irks me that no one actually looks at how slaves are treated in Amarr society and instead look at how slaves are treated in the history of Earth.)) Let's be honest here, if the Empire were to reinstate a Reclaiming in the traditional sense of conquer many Minmatar would end up with better living conditions and a brighter future than they do currently. Don't the Ammarians give Minmatar slaves drugs? Viotic or whatever it's called just to make them think they're having a eurphoric feeling. I mean that doesn't sound like fun. ((Ooc: I think it's easy to think about Earth's slavery and that comes to mind first. Ammar slavery seems more like a reeducation camp than anything.)) Its a drug that is highly addictive and ultimately toxic unless doses are regularly administered to the person who is addicted. Whle it sounds like a terribly fate the fact that Matari would live more comfortable and peaceful lives in the Empire cannot be disputed. ((Its less of a re-education camp than it is the Amarr adopting the Matari. When the two races first met the Amarr were already a technologically advanced race with conquests under their belts and a desire to unite humanity. They considered the Matari to be like children and saw it as their duty of uplift the Matari from their tribal customs to be a strong and committed part of the empire.... which they partially succeeded in doing with the establishment of the Ammatar Mandate. In terms of the Holders who rule the Matari slaves, the Emperor Heidreran proclaimed that all slaves were to be treated with respect and kindness and that their handling was to be in such a way as to make their transitional phase between serf and equal as comfortable as possible.))

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1278	Posted - 2013.08.15 09:05:00 - [11] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor Peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these signs And still do not believe." - Book of Reclaiming 25:10 To truly hate an enemy, I find it is best to learn their ways. I am familiar with your scriptures. You would see the entire universe incorporated into your faith, and those who refuse murdered. You are monster, and none of you deserve my sympathy. Unlike the Gallente who push their ideals across the galaxy, or the Minmatar who would wage a war of vengeance because they cannot put aside their anger, I would point out the flaws of the Caldari but I respect them as allies, and would not want to insult them for their support to the empire has been loyal and unswerving. Your anger is misplaced Galm, we are not the enemies you seek, we are the cure to corruption and sin, and that is all I shall say on the matter. I am done. As you have said, "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor Peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these signs And still do not believe."
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1287	Posted - 2013.08.15 20:43:00 - [12] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: The way I see it. If any rustbuckets fights and wins his freedom then god clearly supported him and he shall live free. If he loses and is enslaved we still have much to teach him. So if we go to war with the republic and they win. I shall greet them as equals as this is God's chosen path. We are to unite the galaxies under are faith. That faith does not have to be under one flag at the end of the day Get ready for that loss Amarrian. :) Mataris we are strong people who won't go down without a fight. I do agree with you though. I'd rather have peace than more war. Mataris are only.angry because their people were enslaved and don't even get to practice their home rituals. Sure some are given jobs but they still live in poverty. Don't you think they would like to live back with their tribes? You know he doesn't speak for the general beliefs of the empire. That is never going to be a stance that the empire will ever take on the Matari Also In the E,pire no slave lives in poverty. Where ever did you get that idea?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1292	Posted - 2013.08.16 02:21:00 - [13] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: The way I see it. If any rustbuckets fights and wins his freedom then god clearly supported him and he shall live free. If he loses and is enslaved we still have much to teach him. So if we go to war with the republic and they win. I shall greet them as equals as this is God's chosen path. We are to unite the galaxies under are faith. That faith does not have to be under one flag at the end of the day Get ready for that loss Amarrian. :) Mataris we are strong people who won't go down without a fight. I do agree with you though. I'd rather have peace than more war. Mataris are only.angry because their people were enslaved and don't even get to practice their home rituals. Sure some are given jobs but they still live in poverty. Don't you think they would like to live back with their tribes? You know he doesn't speak for the general beliefs of the empire. That is never going to be a stance that the empire will ever take on the Matari Also In the E,pire no slave lives in poverty. Where ever did you get that idea? Rumors amongst the tribes talk of slaves that live in poor areas. I've never had to deal with slavery or my family thankfully, but that's the words that were around in my Vherokior tribe. .... Right listen to the words of those who would spread lies.... hey guess what I heard yesterday.... a Vherokior slave came up and thanked me for helping her see God's Light.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1292	Posted - 2013.08.16 03:04:00 - [14] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: True Adamance wrote: .... Right listen to the words of those who would spread lies.... hey guess what I heard yesterday.... a Vherokior slave came up and thanked me for helping her see God's Light. Now tell me the one about the Brutor falling in love with the Ammarian slaver lord.... And you say we lie Im sure that one is a great Gallentean novel for middile aged women.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1294	Posted - 2013.08.16 05:19:00 - [15] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: While I don't know too much about the conditions of the slavery in Amarr territory. I can admit that Minmatars are treated unfairly by many Gallente. I can't say all Gallente citizens share a dislike of Minmatars, but majority do not like us for reasons I'm unsure of. Maybe it's how much us Minmatars have influenced their youth with our fashion sense and our ritual of Voluval. You'd be surprised how many teens I've seen with Voluval like tattoos. (( The Gallente basically played the opportunistic saviors and used the Minmatar to get somebody fighting with the Amarr so they did not get al over aggressive with the Federation. They also tried to impart their government on the Matari but that never really stuck with the minmatar since they hate being told what to do))
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1294	Posted - 2013.08.16 05:21:00 - [16] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: If you soak in water for very long, you'll absorb some moisture. It makes no difference whether you're chained in it or there by choice. That your methods are effective is not seriously disputed, Templar Crusader. What the Matari, among others, dispute is your objective justification for doing so, and your ability to continue in the face of lots and lots of guns. Ms Ryeon you know as well as I do that the Amarr have better guns.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1294	Posted - 2013.08.16 05:28:00 - [17] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: True Adamance wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: If you soak in water for very long, you'll absorb some moisture. It makes no difference whether you're chained in it or there by choice. That your methods are effective is not seriously disputed, Templar Crusader. What the Matari, among others, dispute is your objective justification for doing so, and your ability to continue in the face of lots and lots of guns. Ms Ryeon you know as well as I do that the Amarr have better guns. Really? Last I checked the Caldari were second only to the Jove, while your guns are only at their most powerful seconds before they explode into a fireball. I never mentioned anything about the Caldari since they are allies.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1311	Posted - 2013.08.16 23:55:00 - [18] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: ((Speaking of bad intel, neither the origin of that weapon nor its eventual fate is public knowledge.)) Fae-haan: as much as I may have some sympathy towards your feelings on the Amarr, they are allies to the State. Their expansionistic tendencies are held in check by their last couple of centuries of difficulty expanding. Templar Crusader Ouryon: the Amarr may have more technologically-advanced weapons, but the Matari have gotten good at using what they have. You may wish to ask some of your naval compatriots their thoughts on the Hurricane-class battlecruiser or the Vagabond-class heavy assault ship. Both are capsuleer favorites, and not because they are outdated and toothless. Quite the opposite. ((hurricane FTW!)) (( I don't know how many of you play EVE but ive experienced the Alpha Strike Minnie pilots can lay out in the space of 10 seconds, Personally I'm more scared of Thrashers than Rifters. ))
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1325	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:57:00 - [19] - Quote Hunter Junko wrote: True Adamance wrote: Its because your people are so volatile that you suffer and this suffering is of your own doing. We Amarr will uplift you from your ignorance and squalor and bring you into the empire where you may all know true peace equally as children of God. You cannot force our people to accept your "Help" if we havent asked for it. I can and I will if it means to save your people. I have my duty to the Emfpire and my duty to the Vherokior servant who supports me. She speaks of becoming a soldier of the empire. I I ever had one reason to fight with the 24th Crusade besides my faith it is so that my people, my family, and the people I care about do not have to war.