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Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.14 21:32:00 -
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Can us Minmatars have no problems? It seems like whenever I read the news, something is happening to my people. Are we made only to feel nothing but pain? If a war comes along, I'll be behind my people 100%. We deserve some happiness and hopefully the slaves back in Matar. |
Aria Gomes
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DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.14 21:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:Can us Minmatars have no problems? It seems like whenever I read the news, something is happening to my people. Are we made only to feel nothing but pain? If a war comes along, I'll be behind my people 100%. We deserve some happiness and hopefully the slaves back in Matar. Its because your people are so volatile that you suffer and this suffering is of your own doing. We Amarr will uplift you from your ignorance and squalor and bring you into the empire where you may all know true peace equally as children of God.
Sorry but I don't want your "uplifting". We only fight with such anger because it seems as it everyone is pulling and pushing us. Slavery is not the answer for such "uplifting". I mean you have to drug us just for us to be happy with your so called uplifting. |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:01:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:Alas no, Gomes. Looks like I'm gonna be heading back to Matar and tacking up contracts. Screw profitability, I don't care if I go broke buying up gear and vehicles fighting against this invasion. I swear on my dubious honor I'm going to do everything I can to make that little yappy dog upstart succumb to shame and failure for trying to use my people as a stepping stone for his ambitions.
Who in the tribes back in ancestoral times broke far too many mirrors? :P It'll get better soon hopefully. I might not talk to my parents anymore or rarely talk to my siblings but I wouldn't let them deal with the craziness. |
Aria Gomes
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DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.14 22:27:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:True Adamance wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:Can us Minmatars have no problems? It seems like whenever I read the news, something is happening to my people. Are we made only to feel nothing but pain? If a war comes along, I'll be behind my people 100%. We deserve some happiness and hopefully the slaves back in Matar. Its because your people are so volatile that you suffer and this suffering is of your own doing. We Amarr will uplift you from your ignorance and squalor and bring you into the empire where you may all know true peace equally as children of God. Sorry but I don't want your "uplifting". We only fight with such anger because it seems as it everyone is pulling and pushing us. Slavery is not the answer for such "uplifting". I mean you have to drug us just for us to be happy with your so called uplifting. You just don't understand the nature of Slavery in Amarrian culture. Its is our test to you to see if you are ready to join the Empire. In any case what your people want it not an issue. The Amarr are the chosen children of God, they who are to bring the light of the Lord to the furthest reaches of space, to reclaim the stars in the name of mankind, and they who are to unite the galaxy under one banner.
Ha well that's a test I wish not to pass. I'll stick to my tribal rituals with my Minmatars. |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.15 07:49:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Jedah McClintock wrote:Sounds like in light of recent events somebody just wants their slaves back. Dress it up all you want with scripture.
Take the same man on the same job, but two scenarios. The first he is a free man, the other enslaved. Do the Amarr really get off so much on taking away his agency, his dignity, that it's worth all the extra costs of keeping him down as opposed to paying him the market rate for an honest day's work? A slave will do what he has to in order to not be beaten, starved, or otherwise abused in ways I'd rather not dwell on. A free man selling his labor will do his best to cement a reputation for quality.
Besides, nobody gets slaves to handle a stock portfolio or to perform surgery. All that human potential is squandered for the benefit of an elite. Aren't you also screwing over your lower class peoples by shutting them out of low skill jobs you impose on slaves? ((Going to go out of character for a bit, so forgive me. It really irks me that no one actually looks at how slaves are treated in Amarr society and instead look at how slaves are treated in the history of Earth.)) Let's be honest here, if the Empire were to reinstate a Reclaiming in the traditional sense of conquer many Minmatar would end up with better living conditions and a brighter future than they do currently.
Don't the Ammarians give Minmatar slaves drugs? Viotic or whatever it's called just to make them think they're having a eurphoric feeling. I mean that doesn't sound like fun.
((Ooc: I think it's easy to think about Earth's slavery and that comes to mind first. Ammar slavery seems more like a reeducation camp than anything.)) |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:22:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:The way I see it.
If any rustbuckets fights and wins his freedom then god clearly supported him and he shall live free. If he loses and is enslaved we still have much to teach him.
So if we go to war with the republic and they win. I shall greet them as equals as this is God's chosen path. We are to unite the galaxies under are faith. That faith does not have to be under one flag at the end of the day
Get ready for that loss Amarrian. :) Mataris we are strong people who won't go down without a fight.
I do agree with you though. I'd rather have peace than more war. Mataris are only.angry because their people were enslaved and don't even get to practice their home rituals. Sure some are given jobs but they still live in poverty. Don't you think they would like to live back with their tribes? |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.16 02:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:The way I see it.
If any rustbuckets fights and wins his freedom then god clearly supported him and he shall live free. If he loses and is enslaved we still have much to teach him.
So if we go to war with the republic and they win. I shall greet them as equals as this is God's chosen path. We are to unite the galaxies under are faith. That faith does not have to be under one flag at the end of the day
Get ready for that loss Amarrian. :) Mataris we are strong people who won't go down without a fight. I do agree with you though. I'd rather have peace than more war. Mataris are only.angry because their people were enslaved and don't even get to practice their home rituals. Sure some are given jobs but they still live in poverty. Don't you think they would like to live back with their tribes? You know he doesn't speak for the general beliefs of the empire. That is never going to be a stance that the empire will ever take on the Matari Also In the E,pire no slave lives in poverty. Where ever did you get that idea?
Rumors amongst the tribes talk of slaves that live in poor areas. I've never had to deal with slavery or my family thankfully, but that's the words that were around in my Vherokior tribe. |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.16 04:29:00 -
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While I don't know too much about the conditions of the slavery in Amarr territory. I can admit that Minmatars are treated unfairly by many Gallente. I can't say all Gallente citizens share a dislike of Minmatars, but majority do not like us for reasons I'm unsure of. Maybe it's how much us Minmatars have influenced their youth with our fashion sense and our ritual of Voluval. You'd be surprised how many teens I've seen with Voluval like tattoos. |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.16 19:32:00 -
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Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:((Speaking of bad intel, neither the origin of that weapon nor its eventual fate is public knowledge.))
Fae-haan: as much as I may have some sympathy towards your feelings on the Amarr, they are allies to the State. Their expansionistic tendencies are held in check by their last couple of centuries of difficulty expanding.
Templar Crusader Ouryon: the Amarr may have more technologically-advanced weapons, but the Matari have gotten good at using what they have. You may wish to ask some of your naval compatriots their thoughts on the Hurricane-class battlecruiser or the Vagabond-class heavy assault ship. Both are capsuleer favorites, and not because they are outdated and toothless. Quite the opposite.
I agree with being good with what we have. When I first applied to boot camp we were given crappy militia gear and a lot of times I still run with it, just because I'm used to its flaws and naunces. Using newer equipment like my beloved GK-13 Burst taught me something that a GEK can't teach which is pick your shots wisely and aim tighter. Now when I play with my GEK or militia, it's a more calculated playstyle. Think before doing even if it's just a split second. Creep slow, look around and then pounce like a lion to a gazelle.
Us Mataris can go toe to toe with any Amarrian no matter the equipment. Those Amarrians and their blab about technologically-advanced weapons. If they had our weapons they wouldn't know what to do. |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.16 21:00:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:((Speaking of bad intel, neither the origin of that weapon nor its eventual fate is public knowledge.))
Fae-haan: as much as I may have some sympathy towards your feelings on the Amarr, they are allies to the State. Their expansionistic tendencies are held in check by their last couple of centuries of difficulty expanding.
Templar Crusader Ouryon: the Amarr may have more technologically-advanced weapons, but the Matari have gotten good at using what they have. You may wish to ask some of your naval compatriots their thoughts on the Hurricane-class battlecruiser or the Vagabond-class heavy assault ship. Both are capsuleer favorites, and not because they are outdated and toothless. Quite the opposite. Blatant disregard of the risk isn't simply a poor move, it is inefficient. I keep insisting, we can take them now when we still can, or we can wait for them to become a problem that we can not match. Time, money, and lives would all be saved in a preemptive strike coordinated with fellow empires. I assume a fellow Caldari would see merit in such efficiency. As far as Matari tech goes, I think you are all forgetting our friend the Rifter. What was that the owner's guide refers to them as? "Going down a staircase on an office chair dual wielding SMGs?"
That sounds amazing!
Personally I'd rather a Caldari and Minmatar alliance than a Gallente. If I were to go to Gallente Federation, I'd have to look over my shoulders for people that like to harass us Mataris or put us into human trafficing. Sure Caldaris are pretty strict but they'd compliment the Brutors well. Also Caldaris understand being enslaved just like the Minmatar. Only reason Minmatar and Caldari aren't alliances because they're with each other's rivals.
Hope that made sense. |
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Aria Gomes
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DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:05:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:((Speaking of bad intel, neither the origin of that weapon nor its eventual fate is public knowledge.))
Fae-haan: as much as I may have some sympathy towards your feelings on the Amarr, they are allies to the State. Their expansionistic tendencies are held in check by their last couple of centuries of difficulty expanding.
Templar Crusader Ouryon: the Amarr may have more technologically-advanced weapons, but the Matari have gotten good at using what they have. You may wish to ask some of your naval compatriots their thoughts on the Hurricane-class battlecruiser or the Vagabond-class heavy assault ship. Both are capsuleer favorites, and not because they are outdated and toothless. Quite the opposite. ((hurricane FTW!)) (( I don't know how many of you play EVE but ive experienced the Alpha Strike Minnie pilots can lay out in the space of 10 seconds, Personally I'm more scared of Thrashers than Rifters. ))
((I want to try out EVE in the future. I can at least make my character in their creator which is why I want to try it mostly.)) |
Aria Gomes
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:46:00 -
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Octavian Vetiver wrote:((Since so many are in OOC mode right now. Vitoc is actually the antidote for the poison given. It's only temporary though and without repeat doses the slaves that are infected with the toxin die. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Vitoc )) The Sarum family heir may recommend assaulting the Republic. In the end is it the Empress who commands and her alone who will decide whether we assault the Republic and bring the Reclaiming to those lost people. Her freeing of the 9th generation and upwards was done because they have been Reclaimed. Even now, many of them continue to pray and attend the weekly Mass and prayer in churches they themselves have constructed. Even at the cost of being spit upon and mistreated by those who called them kin and for many tears screamed in anger and rage at our acts of "slavery".
((I must've read that article backwards. They never metioned the poison so I assumed that the Vitoc was the poison.))
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