DUST Search - Fix the strafing gap already!

KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:

MinivanSurvivor wrote:

Awww look at all these KB/M noobs.

Drop the KB/M and watch what'll happen. You'll get decimated.

You lack in ability to use the input the system was designed for so you look at the KB/M the same way you looked at Caldari Logi's/TAR/Flaylocks/MDs and every other blatantly skilless form of playing you could find.

You run KB/M because you suck. Don't try and defend yourself we are already fully aware.

People running around here spouting all this bulls*** about KB/M not being a huge advantage over DS3. We have TWO deadzones, did you read that? TWO!

One with each joystick. What makes you think it's easy to track you with the right while you move left and right instantly when we can't switch back and forth with our aim at 1/4 the speed you can strafe? Then you take into consideration that we also have to account for our own strafe.

Don't come in here with this bulls*** and act like you have any idea what you are talking about. Play with a controller you bunch of little girls.

Putting the ball back to your court.
You are ranting as you are annoyed and scared and in your mind allocate all your losses to "coz they kbm xeat".

My guess is you weren't here deep enough in the open beta:
KBM support came in September 2012, before that me and many other current KBM users mastered the DS3.
Your claim that every current KBM user can't compete with DS3 is utter bull.

Okay, you say DS3 is harder for you as it has two joysticks and therefore two deadzones?
Okay you have to adapt to those deadzones.
You have two SIMILAR control methods so it's easier for your brain to handle those.
KBM has two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT control method philosophies which you have to use at the same time and combine into one, the KB and the mouse.
Ask any person who hasn't history of 1st person KBM shooters trying to learn KBM if it's easy to manage both.

Both DS3 and KBM needs getting accustomed to. It takes time to get teach control to your spinal cord.

Did you btw realise that few infantry strafes are EASIER to do on DS3? Prolly no if you haven't mastered both.
- Circle '8' strafe (to add more evasion in 3D fights)
- 'Orbit' strafe around target (when orbiting you don't have to do actions on your fingers, your capacity is let free to tune the orbit and focus on other things)

So in the end the 'war' between DS3 and KBM dilutes into personal preferences of each user. Both are legit, both have pros and cons.
And I repeat the third time in this thread: imbalances DO have to be fixed.

MinivanSurvivor,
Stop dissing other human beings by their preferred control method. Be yourself a true king and master both control methods.


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MinivanSurvivor L.O.T.I.S. 47	Posted - 2013.08.14 11:58:00 - [1] - Quote Awww look at all these KB/M noobs. Drop the KB/M and watch what'll happen. You'll get decimated. You lack in ability to use the input the system was designed for so you look at the KB/M the same way you looked at Caldari Logi's/TAR/Flaylocks/MDs and every other blatantly skilless form of playing you could find. You run KB/M because you suck. Don't try and defend yourself we are already fully aware. People running around here spouting all this bulls* about KB/M not being a huge advantage over DS3. We have TWO deadzones, did you read that? TWO! One with each joystick. What makes you think it's easy to track you with the right while you move left and right instantly when we can't switch back and forth with our aim at 1/4 the speed you can strafe? Then you take into consideration that we also have to account for our own strafe. Don't come in here with this bulls* and act like you have any idea what you are talking about. Play with a controller you bunch of little girls.
MinivanSurvivor L.O.T.I.S. 54	Posted - 2013.08.14 23:00:00 - [2] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: MinivanSurvivor wrote: Awww look at all these KB/M noobs. Drop the KB/M and watch what'll happen. You'll get decimated. You lack in ability to use the input the system was designed for so you look at the KB/M the same way you looked at Caldari Logi's/TAR/Flaylocks/MDs and every other blatantly skilless form of playing you could find. You run KB/M because you suck. Don't try and defend yourself we are already fully aware. People running around here spouting all this bulls* about KB/M not being a huge advantage over DS3. We have TWO deadzones, did you read that? TWO! One with each joystick. What makes you think it's easy to track you with the right while you move left and right instantly when we can't switch back and forth with our aim at 1/4 the speed you can strafe? Then you take into consideration that we also have to account for our own strafe. Don't come in here with this bulls* and act like you have any idea what you are talking about. Play with a controller you bunch of little girls. Putting the ball back to your court. You are ranting as you are annoyed and scared and in your mind allocate all your losses to "coz they kbm xeat". My guess is you weren't here deep enough in the open beta: KBM support came in September 2012, before that me and many other current KBM users mastered the DS3. Your claim that every current KBM user can't compete with DS3 is utter bull. Okay, you say DS3 is harder for you as it has two joysticks and therefore two deadzones? Okay you have to adapt to those deadzones. You have two SIMILAR control methods so it's easier for your brain to handle those. KBM has two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT control method philosophies which you have to use at the same time and combine into one, the KB and the mouse. Ask any person who hasn't history of 1st person KBM shooters trying to learn KBM if it's easy to manage both. Both DS3 and KBM needs getting accustomed to. It takes time to get teach control to your spinal cord. Did you btw realise that few infantry strafes are EASIER to do on DS3? Prolly no if you haven't mastered both. - Circle '8' strafe (to add more evasion in 3D fights) - 'Orbit' strafe around target (when orbiting you don't have to do actions on your fingers, your capacity is let free to tune the orbit and focus on other things) So in the end the 'war' between DS3 and KBM dilutes into personal preferences of each user. Both are legit, both have pros and cons. And I repeat the third time in this thread: imbalances DO have to be fixed. MinivanSurvivor, Stop dissing other human beings by their preferred control method. Be yourself a true king and master both control methods. I've been here since the E3 build. I just checked my client and my download date is 6/30/12. I've been here for a long time. I've ran KB/M on quite a few shooters before as I was a PC gamer in the past. I don't understand how using KB/M is harder because of two different input methods as mouse is the easiest method of tracking things I've ever experienced. I haven't run KB/M on Dust but if the method of navigation is WASD and space like it is in most other PC shooters then that is extremely easy to grow accustomed to. I was a console gamer before I was a PC gamer and the switch was from console to PC was like a 2 hour memorization window. Mastering KB/M is no feat to boast about as mastering takes little more than memorization. After a few years of PC gaming I came back to consoles and the controller is a much more inferior input method in terms of functionality in most situations. The whole "KB/M is 2 different input methods which puts more strain on your brain" holds less water than bigfoot and yeti sightings. It's fine if you want to run KBM. I don't care. But if people wanna run that ish then throw all them in their own que instead of forcing them into matches with DS3 players. If that's too much to ask for then limit their turn speeds and strafe speeds to that of DS3 players. In other words, make the controls mimic the DS3. This is a CONSOLE game. If KBM was the intended method of control then CCP should have made DUST a PC game. But alas this is CCP we are talking about. These people haven't even made the map in the war-barge work yet. Nor have we all the racial variant suits/weapons/vehicles or 90% of all the ish they promised forever ago. I have ZERO faith in you CCP. ZERO. Why you even decided to make a FPS boggles my mind. You can't even almost balance a FPS game or hold true to your own word. You get surprised at the idea of the stats you make on weapons/suits/equipment being blatantly OP and dominating all others. You people obviously aren't FPS players because you make stupid mistakes EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU IMPLEMENT THINGS. You'd think they'd learn after the first 10 times but nope. Every. Single. Time. You have downtime EVERY SINGLE DAY but it takes weeks and weeks to fix little things like the weapon values on TARs or Cal Logis. I'll still play your game as it has great potential but it hurts my heart to see these mistakes time and time again. Prove me wrong CCP. I DARE YOU!