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OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:01:00 -
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So I started another character with just the starter sp with all my points just in my suit an level 1 armor an shields an only militia suit an militia assault rife; this character is under a million sp.
My main character is a proto mini scout with proficiency skills in every side arm, proficiency Sg an all endurance cardiac an kinetics an dampening at 5 or 4.
Now when I can do just as good an have more hp in a militia fit than a proto scout, something is wrong. I can walk around with barely any sp an have a stronger suit in a militia? Yes we're comparing assault to a scout but really, after millions of sp in a suit there is no comparison in the difference; it also seems as if assault shields are stronger an last longer when being shot if that's understandable.
Not to mention that having no hit detection issues with a rifle compared to missin 3 out of five attempts from no hit detection with a shot gun or nova knives it makes a insaine difference !
I don't expect scouts to be invincible but deffinetly a mini scout should be able too have a higher max hp considering there isn't a guy in the game that will use both low slots for armor, maybe one ferroscale but never two. Plus the CPU an pg is so low you couldn't fit two complex armor an three complex shield even if you wanted to run in the 7. Sprint speeds cuz this suit is a speed suit.
So why is it even less as a proto than a militia assault ? I think ccp needs to rethink these suits an also the use of the slots in a mini scout an it's total HP with the CPU an pg maxed with its best case sinario with the suit with complex shield an armor an realize you won't be able to fit a gun, an I think since their is a low amount of scouts in the game this topic doesn't come up often enough, because I'm sick of other suits in the game saying scouts are fine, an full time time scouts like myself know this.
I know I ll probably get the whole " adapt or die, or u suck get better , or negative stupid forum feedback" But hey who cares I'm used to it around here lol.
But for real this is a under thought game statistic, no way there should be this much of a difference at a proto level scout, at bare minimum all scouts should at least have the same armor rep bonus of +1 per level considering a grenade is a ohk, 4 sr shots, one md shot or one or two faylock shots, pretty much everything in the game do ccp SHOW US SOME LOVE LOL! |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
432
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:08:00 -
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They are going to "try" and balance them SOONtm. But I'm with you Scouts are **** |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:30:00 -
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dam Ozarow, your a good troll and im a sucker, or you really are serious an need a slap upside the head..
Proto minni is just as op as any other proto suit vs noobs or milita fits..
Sometimes I get like 40+ kills 1 death an I feel stupid after the match, if minni proto gets any kind of buff it will be seriously OP.
sometimes im blessed with a good duel vs a top tier assault player and I never feel out matched by gear if I loose.
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DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1849
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:56:00 -
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Scouts are not all bad, just proto and advanced. They cost way too much and do not get much more HP.
Proto Scouts should get there price severely cut, as well as advanced scouts. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
165
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:35:00 -
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Sounds like your trying to use a scout to directly assault or just using the scout suit like an assault, switch to assault. |
Spaceman-Rob
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:42:00 -
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I liked op before even reading it, you only have to fart in the wrong direction and a scout will fall dead at your feet. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
698
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:47:00 -
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I don't know, the mini scout is pretty good and if you have the skill to use it...then your probably a good player in general and can use most other suits well. |
Lightning Bolt2
DUST University Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:47:00 -
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the HP isn't whats wrong with scouts, its everything else. |
Seiox
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
6
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:48:00 -
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Wait till they release scout only cloaks soonTM. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
357
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Posted - 2013.08.14 06:28:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:dam Ozarow, your a good troll and im a sucker, or you really are serious an need a slap upside the head..
Proto minni is just as op as any other proto suit vs noobs or milita fits..
Sometimes I get like 40+ kills 1 death an I feel stupid after the match, if minni proto gets any kind of buff it will be seriously OP.
sometimes im blessed with a good duel vs a top tier assault player and I never feel out matched by gear if I loose.
Get at me then an ill help u pat your own back! |
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OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
357
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:03:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:the HP isn't whats wrong with scouts, its everything else. Yea 50 000 more isk for a extra slot lol |
Bob Teller
Red Star. EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:10:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:So I started another character with just the starter sp with all my points just in my suit an level 1 armor an shields an only militia suit an militia assault rife; this character is under a million sp.
My main character is a proto mini scout with proficiency skills in every side arm, proficiency Sg an all endurance cardiac an kinetics an dampening at 5 or 4.
Now when I can do just as good an have more hp in a militia fit than a proto scout, something is wrong. I can walk around with barely any sp an have a stronger suit in a militia? Yes we're comparing assault to a scout but really, after millions of sp in a suit there is no comparison in the difference; it also seems as if assault shields are stronger an last longer when being shot if that's understandable.
Not to mention that having no hit detection issues with a rifle compared to missin 3 out of five attempts from no hit detection with a shot gun or nova knives it makes a insaine difference !
I don't expect scouts to be invincible but deffinetly a mini scout should be able too have a higher max hp considering there isn't a guy in the game that will use both low slots for armor, maybe one ferroscale but never two. Plus the CPU an pg is so low you couldn't fit two complex armor an three complex shield even if you wanted to run in the 7. Sprint speeds cuz this suit is a speed suit.
So why is it even less as a proto than a militia assault ? I think ccp needs to rethink these suits an also the use of the slots in a mini scout an it's total HP with the CPU an pg maxed with its best case sinario with the suit with complex shield an armor an realize you won't be able to fit a gun, an I think since their is a low amount of scouts in the game this topic doesn't come up often enough, because I'm sick of other suits in the game saying scouts are fine, an full time time scouts like myself know this.
I know I ll probably get the whole " adapt or die, or u suck get better , or negative stupid forum feedback" But hey who cares I'm used to it around here lol.
But for real this is a under thought game statistic, no way there should be this much of a difference at a proto level scout, at bare minimum all scouts should at least have the same armor rep bonus of +1 per level considering a grenade is a ohk, 4 sr shots, one md shot or one or two faylock shots, pretty much everything in the game do ccp SHOW US SOME LOVE LOL! Scouts are the fastest class,fastest shield regen,lowest scan profile and yes,they have low hp.The problem is not the suit,it's that you chose the wrong suit for your playstyle. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
357
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:15:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:OZAROW wrote:So I started another character with just the starter sp with all my points just in my suit an level 1 armor an shields an only militia suit an militia assault rife; this character is under a million sp.
My main character is a proto mini scout with proficiency skills in every side arm, proficiency Sg an all endurance cardiac an kinetics an dampening at 5 or 4.
Now when I can do just as good an have more hp in a militia fit than a proto scout, something is wrong. I can walk around with barely any sp an have a stronger suit in a militia? Yes we're comparing assault to a scout but really, after millions of sp in a suit there is no comparison in the difference; it also seems as if assault shields are stronger an last longer when being shot if that's understandable.
Not to mention that having no hit detection issues with a rifle compared to missin 3 out of five attempts from no hit detection with a shot gun or nova knives it makes a insaine difference !
I don't expect scouts to be invincible but deffinetly a mini scout should be able too have a higher max hp considering there isn't a guy in the game that will use both low slots for armor, maybe one ferroscale but never two. Plus the CPU an pg is so low you couldn't fit two complex armor an three complex shield even if you wanted to run in the 7. Sprint speeds cuz this suit is a speed suit.
So why is it even less as a proto than a militia assault ? I think ccp needs to rethink these suits an also the use of the slots in a mini scout an it's total HP with the CPU an pg maxed with its best case sinario with the suit with complex shield an armor an realize you won't be able to fit a gun, an I think since their is a low amount of scouts in the game this topic doesn't come up often enough, because I'm sick of other suits in the game saying scouts are fine, an full time time scouts like myself know this.
I know I ll probably get the whole " adapt or die, or u suck get better , or negative stupid forum feedback" But hey who cares I'm used to it around here lol.
But for real this is a under thought game statistic, no way there should be this much of a difference at a proto level scout, at bare minimum all scouts should at least have the same armor rep bonus of +1 per level considering a grenade is a ohk, 4 sr shots, one md shot or one or two faylock shots, pretty much everything in the game do ccp SHOW US SOME LOVE LOL! Scouts are the fastest class,fastest shield regen,lowest scan profile and yes,they have low hp.The problem is not the suit,it's that you chose the wrong suit for your playstyle. No! It worked perfect before the strafe an stamina nerf in1.2 |
Eurydice Itzhak
Militaires Sans Jeux
184
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:18:00 -
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Bob... If you were allowed in eon PC you'd see zero scouts.
It's because they're poop. |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
15
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:28:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:the HP isn't whats wrong with scouts, its everything else.
Right? I don't mind mind if they never touch scout tank - if they bump up move/sprint speeds, reduced fall damage, make passive sensors work better for everyone so scouts can scout, and people have a reason to look at their radar thus enhancing the fact scouts are less likely to appear on it. Again fix hit detection for everyone as well.
Then we can evaluate a scout fully.
To be fair, I play light MLT frame (not skilling into dropsuits at all until role bonuses change), but I could just go Minnie MLT medium and do the same stuff to be honest (cept scouts can jump higher - more useful than I thought for sneaking behind lines). |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1173
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Posted - 2013.08.14 07:39:00 -
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Sounds like you should have chosen assault. I love my light frame. It's small, fast, annoying and has plenty of stamina to jump around with. Any close range weapon is a wonder in its hands.
I think maybe your playstyle just doesn't match that of a light frame. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
390
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Posted - 2013.08.14 08:33:00 -
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I've seen light suits with 360 shields and crazy ass speed maybe the scout ain't your style man. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
390
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Posted - 2013.08.14 08:36:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:the HP isn't whats wrong with scouts, its everything else. Best nova knifer if been killed by multiple times I might add |
tander09
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
34
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Posted - 2013.08.14 10:40:00 -
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I'm still waiting for a nerf to the HMG (they should warm up before shooting) |
Lightning Bolt2
DUST University Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:14:00 -
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tander09 wrote:I'm still waiting for a nerf to the HMG (they should warm up before shooting)
lol... if anything the hmg needs a buff. |
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