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Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 240	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:57:00 - [1] - Quote Pretty please?
GET ATMESON Dem Durrty Boyz 101	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:58:00 - [2] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? It might come SOONtm
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3114	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:58:00 - [3] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? Can we have a holographic red-dot as a replacement for ironsights? I mean, I'd ******* love it if they could do that.
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster 1385	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:59:00 - [4] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? Used to have it. It was taken away. If you want it, use the Burst or TAC variants.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1221	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:01:00 - [5] - Quote The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 240	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:04:00 - [6] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Weapons in dust have ridiculous range.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3117	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:14:00 - [7] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Weapons in dust have ridiculous range. I think the eventual idea is to have all the ARs have the same Absolute range, but a different damage falloff curve depending on what they fire.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 240	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:17:00 - [8] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Weapons in dust have ridiculous range. I think the eventual idea is to have all the ARs have the same Absolute range, but a different damage falloff curve depending on what they fire. That seems like a good idea.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 324	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:20:00 - [9] - Quote WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3118	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:25:00 - [10] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue. Oh, wow, you know how to be a smartass. Can you teach me?

Bob Teller Red Star. EoN. 59	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:27:00 - [11] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Red dot is a close quarter sight,holo is medium,acog(4x)+ is long.There is no reason why we are forced to use the iron sight really,just that people used to complain a lot about ars so,,,
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3120	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:38:00 - [12] - Quote Bob Teller wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Red dot is a close quarter sight,holo is medium,acog(4x)+ is long.There is no reason why we are forced to use the iron sight really,just that people used to complain a lot about ars so,,, Well, when I was talking about holographic sights, what I actually meant is having a red dot sight that's a hologram, rather than being a physical attachment. Have the weapon project a virtual sight above it.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1623	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:42:00 - [13] - Quote They should probably give the MD a meaningful ADS first.
bonkersfox Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 149	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:46:00 - [14] - Quote Bob Teller wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Red dot is a close quarter sight,holo is medium,acog(4x)+ is long.There is no reason why we are forced to use the iron sight really,just that people used to complain a lot about ars so,,, ill assume you know what your talking about, so would you not agree that acog is med - high range, specialist scopes can be fitted to assault rifles ( sniper scopes ) it all depends on weather the scope mounts will fit, there are rail systems that allow for fast switching of scopes, lights, laser ect.. but I think the op ment in the dust universe not ours
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1207	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:54:00 - [15] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? You really don't deserve it though.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 534	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:59:00 - [16] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? Yeah sure, because its SO DIFFICULT to aim an AR...... NO. ... there are more important matters at hand....
Defy Gravity Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2013.08.13 22:03:00 - [17] - Quote No because someones going to cry about it & scream nerf when you kill them. Unfortunently......
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 241	Posted - 2013.08.14 09:40:00 - [18] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue. Duvolle has a red dot on the iron sight.
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 331	Posted - 2013.08.14 13:11:00 - [19] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? Would love that
Alena Ventrallis Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 68	Posted - 2013.08.14 13:40:00 - [20] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Weapons in dust have ridiculous range. Weapons in Dust have laughable range. An M16 can hit a man sized target at 550 meters. All weapons need a range buff, only after they open up the rest of the map. Look how much space is redzone. Imagine they took that redzone away (which they've said is the plan) AR should be in the 150-200m range, with Caldari rail rifle being about 400-450m range. Of course, this is after the maps have opened up. God, imagine the chaos it would be if the maps were as small as they are now.

Argon Gas Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2013.08.14 13:51:00 - [21] - Quote Assault rifle NEVER had a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle. EVER. That's what we want. What it used to be was a camera like thingy where when you press L1, you don't see the weapon anymore, it's just a zoomed in screen with a dot in the middle. What we wanted was a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle has, what they gave us was iron sights. The "It's a close range weapon" thing is BULLSHIT. A red dot sight benefits any weapon that isn't a point blank weapon (Shotguns). It gives a clearer view of the target.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1061	Posted - 2013.08.14 14:04:00 - [22] - Quote Argon Gas wrote: Assault rifle NEVER had a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle. EVER. That's what we want. What it used to be was a camera like thingy where when you press L1, you don't see the weapon anymore, it's just a zoomed in screen with a dot in the middle. What we wanted was a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle has, what they gave us was iron sights. The "It's a close range weapon" thing is BULLSHIT. A red dot sight benefits any weapon that isn't a point blank weapon (Shotguns). It gives a clearer view of the target. Remember the chromosome iron sights? At least this iron sights doesn't suck. Would love a RDS though.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 62	Posted - 2013.08.14 14:40:00 - [23] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. I don't understand why they can't just put the SMG sigh on the AR and on a separate note, range of the weapon does not alter the need for a sight or not, it just changes the type of sight you need. I indulge in shooting as a hobby and have done a few competitions - the competitions have various categories - some are with iron sights only on standardised weapons - others you're allowed scopes with various magnifications while others you can just have any scope you like (be it a 12x scope or a red dot sight). The advantage of a red dot sight over iron sights is : 1) you can shoot with both eyes open 2) It is easier to find your mark on the target (remember, bullets don't fly straight, so you're always aiming slightly below your target) 3) Can assist you in low light conditions if your iron sights aren't glow in the dark. Holographic sights have the additional advantage of reducing parallax. This is a phenomenon especially prevalent in longer distance shooting. The best way to describe it is if you're looking at a wall clock (with hands) straight on, and you move slightly to the right and look at the same wall clock, the hands will look like they're in different places (thereby giving you a different picture). In shooting, this is really important because it can mean miss your target entirely if it's affected by parallax. You can even put a red dot sight on sidearms, but these benefit more from laser sights, which physically mark your target. These are useless beyond about 20 yards as beyond 20-25 yards you'll see the laser tremble like crazy. The AR rifles in DUST 514 have picatinny rails ( or MIL-STD-1913 rails). This means you should be able to fit whatever sight you like depending on your weapon. All weapons should have backup iron sights. The ones on my personal weapon (a 22LR AR15 clone) are flip-up. Military folk will often tell you the ONLY time you are using iron sights is in an emergency. That means you're too close to line up your ACOG or the battery in your red-dot sight has died or is damaged. Often, they install the iron sights on the SIDE of the weapon, so you're aiming it "Gangsta" style. Like I said, if you're aiming this way, you're already in big trouble. The long and the short of it is - the range a weapon has does not dictate the need for iron sights or not. Many weapons have them as a backup, and a lot of weapons don't even come with them anymore as they have rails and a good red-dot sight is more dependable, especially in a combat situation.
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 29	Posted - 2013.08.14 15:33:00 - [24] - Quote No
postmanclark2 Black Phoenix Mercenaries 10	Posted - 2013.08.14 18:59:00 - [25] - Quote I agree, although a red dot sight is setting our sights low. I know it's been mentioned before, but you should be able to switch out whatever sights you want to use - iron, red dot, laser, ACOG etc.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 294	Posted - 2013.08.14 19:09:00 - [26] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? the 'ar' will be changed to the gallente blaster. they've yet to introduce the minmatar and caldari assault rifles. my guess would be one of them gets a laser sight by definition.
Thumb Green Novashift 279	Posted - 2013.08.14 19:13:00 - [27] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Remember the chromosome iron sights? At least this iron sights doesn't suck. Would love a RDS though. I actually preferred the chromosome iron sights to what we have now. Would much prefer RDS as well though.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 243	Posted - 2013.08.15 17:07:00 - [28] - Quote low genius wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Pretty please? the 'ar' will be changed to the gallente blaster. they've yet to introduce the minmatar and caldari assault rifles. my guess would be one of them gets a laser sight by definition. You can tell it will be Caldari by it's concept art. Too bad I have to level another weapon :(
Quil Evrything U.N.S.C. secter V 0	Posted - 2013.08.15 18:13:00 - [29] - Quote Ugh. no please. I've already been "sniped" by AR's frequently at what I consider to be fairly long range. Making it even easiser for people to do so would just be OP.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 247	Posted - 2013.08.16 11:53:00 - [30] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Ugh. no please. I've already been "sniped" by AR's frequently at what I consider to be fairly long range. Making it even easiser for people to do so would just be OP. Long range? O.0

NOAMIzzzzz BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 13	Posted - 2013.08.16 11:57:00 - [31] - Quote holo for HMG AMG
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1125	Posted - 2013.08.16 12:01:00 - [32] - Quote Let me go ahead and open Pandora's box and ask where is my Gallente undermount Plasma Launcher for my assault rifle.
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 341	Posted - 2013.08.16 12:22:00 - [33] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue. Oh, wow, you know how to be a smartass. Can you teach me? ???? oh. Nice troll comment. If you look at each race they all use there racial colors for there guns an dot sights. Again nice troll comment.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy WE ARE LEGENDS 247	Posted - 2013.08.16 12:40:00 - [34] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Soldiersaint wrote: WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue. Oh, wow, you know how to be a smartass. Can you teach me? ???? oh. Nice troll comment. If you look at each race they all use there racial colors for there guns an dot sights. Again nice troll comment. Assault rifle uses red. Duvolle.


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