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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:57:00 -
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Pretty please? |
GET ATMESON
Dem Durrty Boyz
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:58:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please?
It might come SOONtm
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
3114
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:58:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please?
Can we have a holographic red-dot as a replacement for ironsights?
I mean, I'd ******* love it if they could do that. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1385
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:59:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please?
Used to have it.
It was taken away.
If you want it, use the Burst or TAC variants. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1221
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:01:00 -
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The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:04:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range.
Weapons in dust have ridiculous range. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
3117
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:14:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Weapons in dust have ridiculous range.
I think the eventual idea is to have all the ARs have the same Absolute range, but a different damage falloff curve depending on what they fire. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:17:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Weapons in dust have ridiculous range. I think the eventual idea is to have all the ARs have the same Absolute range, but a different damage falloff curve depending on what they fire.
That seems like a good idea. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:20:00 -
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WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue.  |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
3118
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:25:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue.
Oh, wow, you know how to be a smartass.
Can you teach me? |
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Bob Teller
Red Star.
EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:27:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range.
Red dot is a close quarter sight,holo is medium,acog(4x)+ is long.There is no reason why we are forced to use the iron sight really,just that people used to complain a lot about ars so,,, |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
3120
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:38:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Red dot is a close quarter sight,holo is medium,acog(4x)+ is long.There is no reason why we are forced to use the iron sight really,just that people used to complain a lot about ars so,,,
Well, when I was talking about holographic sights, what I actually meant is having a red dot sight that's a hologram, rather than being a physical attachment.
Have the weapon project a virtual sight above it. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:42:00 -
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They should probably give the MD a meaningful ADS first. |
bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
149
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:46:00 -
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Bob Teller wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Red dot is a close quarter sight,holo is medium,acog(4x)+ is long.There is no reason why we are forced to use the iron sight really,just that people used to complain a lot about ars so,,,
ill assume you know what your talking about, so would you not agree that acog is med - high range,
specialist scopes can be fitted to assault rifles ( sniper scopes ) it all depends on weather the scope mounts will fit,
there are rail systems that allow for fast switching of scopes, lights, laser ect..
but I think the op ment in the dust universe not ours |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1207
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:54:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please?
You really don't deserve it though. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
534
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:59:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please?
Yeah sure, because its SO DIFFICULT to aim an AR......
NO.
... there are more important matters at hand.... |
Defy Gravity
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2013.08.13 22:03:00 -
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No because someones going to cry about it & scream nerf when you kill them. Unfortunently......  |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.08.14 09:40:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:WRONG! You mean green dot sight. Every race uses there own colors for the dot sights XD. the scram rifle is amarr so it uses gold. the mass driver is minmatar so it uses orange. the ar is gallante so it uses green and the sniper rifle and swarm launcher are caldari so they use blue.
Duvolle has a red dot on the iron sight. |
NAV HIV
The Generals
EoN.
331
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:11:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please?
Would love that |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:40:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range. Weapons in dust have ridiculous range.
Weapons in Dust have laughable range. An M16 can hit a man sized target at 550 meters.
All weapons need a range buff, only after they open up the rest of the map. Look how much space is redzone. Imagine they took that redzone away (which they've said is the plan)
AR should be in the 150-200m range, with Caldari rail rifle being about 400-450m range. Of course, this is after the maps have opened up. God, imagine the chaos it would be if the maps were as small as they are now. |
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Argon Gas
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.14 13:51:00 -
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Assault rifle NEVER had a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle.
EVER.
That's what we want.
What it used to be was a camera like thingy where when you press L1, you don't see the weapon anymore, it's just a zoomed in screen with a dot in the middle.
What we wanted was a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle has, what they gave us was iron sights.
The "It's a close range weapon" thing is BULLSHIT.
A red dot sight benefits any weapon that isn't a point blank weapon (Shotguns).
It gives a clearer view of the target. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1061
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:04:00 -
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Argon Gas wrote:Assault rifle NEVER had a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle.
EVER.
That's what we want.
What it used to be was a camera like thingy where when you press L1, you don't see the weapon anymore, it's just a zoomed in screen with a dot in the middle.
What we wanted was a red dot sight like the scrambler rifle has, what they gave us was iron sights.
The "It's a close range weapon" thing is BULLSHIT.
A red dot sight benefits any weapon that isn't a point blank weapon (Shotguns).
It gives a clearer view of the target.
Remember the chromosome iron sights? At least this iron sights doesn't suck. Would love a RDS though. |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:40:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:The assault rifle (which is really the plasma rifle) is supposed to be the shortest range assault rifle of all the racial variants (Scrambler Rifle, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle) so it makes sense not having a sight. However it is clear in actuality the AR has really good range.
I don't understand why they can't just put the SMG sigh on the AR and on a separate note, range of the weapon does not alter the need for a sight or not, it just changes the type of sight you need.
I indulge in shooting as a hobby and have done a few competitions - the competitions have various categories - some are with iron sights only on standardised weapons - others you're allowed scopes with various magnifications while others you can just have any scope you like (be it a 12x scope or a red dot sight).
The advantage of a red dot sight over iron sights is :
1) you can shoot with both eyes open
2) It is easier to find your mark on the target (remember, bullets don't fly straight, so you're always aiming slightly below your target)
3) Can assist you in low light conditions if your iron sights aren't glow in the dark.
Holographic sights have the additional advantage of reducing parallax. This is a phenomenon especially prevalent in longer distance shooting. The best way to describe it is if you're looking at a wall clock (with hands) straight on, and you move slightly to the right and look at the same wall clock, the hands will look like they're in different places (thereby giving you a different picture). In shooting, this is really important because it can mean miss your target entirely if it's affected by parallax.
You can even put a red dot sight on sidearms, but these benefit more from laser sights, which physically mark your target. These are useless beyond about 20 yards as beyond 20-25 yards you'll see the laser tremble like crazy.
The AR rifles in DUST 514 have picatinny rails ( or MIL-STD-1913 rails). This means you should be able to fit whatever sight you like depending on your weapon. All weapons should have backup iron sights. The ones on my personal weapon (a 22LR AR15 clone) are flip-up. Military folk will often tell you the ONLY time you are using iron sights is in an emergency. That means you're too close to line up your ACOG or the battery in your red-dot sight has died or is damaged. Often, they install the iron sights on the SIDE of the weapon, so you're aiming it "Gangsta" style. Like I said, if you're aiming this way, you're already in big trouble.
The long and the short of it is - the range a weapon has does not dictate the need for iron sights or not. Many weapons have them as a backup, and a lot of weapons don't even come with them anymore as they have rails and a good red-dot sight is more dependable, especially in a combat situation.
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Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:33:00 -
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No
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postmanclark2
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:59:00 -
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I agree, although a red dot sight is setting our sights low. I know it's been mentioned before, but you should be able to switch out whatever sights you want to use - iron, red dot, laser, ACOG etc. |
low genius
the sound of freedom
Renegade Alliance
294
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:09:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please?
the 'ar' will be changed to the gallente blaster. they've yet to introduce the minmatar and caldari assault rifles. my guess would be one of them gets a laser sight by definition. |
Thumb Green
Novashift
279
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:13:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:
Remember the chromosome iron sights? At least this iron sights doesn't suck. Would love a RDS though.
I actually preferred the chromosome iron sights to what we have now. Would much prefer RDS as well though. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:07:00 -
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low genius wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Pretty please? the 'ar' will be changed to the gallente blaster. they've yet to introduce the minmatar and caldari assault rifles. my guess would be one of them gets a laser sight by definition.
You can tell it will be Caldari by it's concept art. Too bad I have to level another weapon :( |
Quil Evrything
U.N.S.C. secter V
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:13:00 -
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Ugh. no please.
I've already been "sniped" by AR's frequently at what I consider to be fairly long range. Making it even easiser for people to do so would just be OP.
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
WE ARE LEGENDS
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Posted - 2013.08.16 11:53:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Ugh. no please.
I've already been "sniped" by AR's frequently at what I consider to be fairly long range. Making it even easiser for people to do so would just be OP.
Long range? O.0 |
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