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Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 121	Posted - 2013.08.13 02:59:00 - [1] - Quote I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid.
Viktor Vikrizi The Corporate Raiders 14	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:04:00 - [2] - Quote its only natural people would use such a combo because they work really well together . I had been using it before you had said anything
FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 270	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:24:00 - [3] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Really? Just really? Smg? Lawl
LoveNewlooy Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 42	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:25:00 - [4] - Quote leaving ASCR alone they are fine..
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 657	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:25:00 - [5] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Really? Just really? Smg? Lawl Whatever do you mean? /me keeps eyes away from quoted poster's name...
jordy mack Ultramarine Corp 11	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:28:00 - [6] - Quote yet another reason NOT to cry allover the forums :)
Spycrab Potato Hold-Your-Fire 219	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:29:00 - [7] - Quote The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek...
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 516	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:30:00 - [8] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Really? Just really? Smg? Lawl AHAHA FLaylock and i have seen some serious whining lately. You say SMG's are OP? whats next? Scrambler pistols? Burst or Breach AR? Swarm Launchers? (oh right...)
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:32:00 - [9] - Quote Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... That's like saying the GEK is better than the Six Kin smg
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 427	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:32:00 - [10] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Really? Just really? Smg? Lawl AHAHA FLaylock and i have seen some serious whining lately. You say SMG's are OP? whats next? Scrambler pistols? Burst or Breach AR? Swarm Launchers? (oh right...) Personely I feel Nova Knives have too much range

ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 715	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:38:00 - [11] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. I highly doubt it. Just looking at corp tag automatically makes me assume you're bad Lord of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:39:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Really? Just really? Smg? Lawl AHAHA FLaylock and i have seen some serious whining lately. You say SMG's are OP? whats next? Scrambler pistols? Burst or Breach AR? Swarm Launchers? (oh right...) Every weapon is OP at what they are OP at. Deal with it
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1209	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:44:00 - [13] - Quote Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... And has less range (despite CCP stating Hyrbird - Plasma as short range and Laser - Pulse as medium range) and incredibly more dispersion. ASCR OP? I can't get the darn thing to work, I think it's garbage and I love all things Amarr. I feel more comfortable charging with an assault scrambler pistol than an assault scrambler rifle.
Lillica Deathdealer Mango and Friends 96	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:48:00 - [14] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. I highly doubt it. Just looking at corp tag automatically makes me assume you're bad Lord of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING btw I shot you. Afterwards you died. Enjoy that, proto friend, and your kdr didnt go up that game as much as you originally expected it to.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:48:00 - [15] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... And has less range (despite CCP stating Hyrbird - Plasma as short range and Laser - Pulse as medium range) and incredibly more dispersion. ASCR OP? I can't get the darn thing to work, I think it's garbage and I love all things Amarr. I feel more comfortable charging with an assault scrambler pistol than an assault scrambler rifle. Try aiming at their legs then eventually it will be perfect because the kick will bring the aim up a tiny bit. But I use it for CQC and same for the SMG. They are OP if you use it OP. Just takes some experimenting. Try or Die.
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 715	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:53:00 - [16] - Quote Lillica Deathdealer wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. I highly doubt it. Just looking at corp tag automatically makes me assume you're bad Lord of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING btw I shot you. Afterwards you died. Enjoy that, proto friend, and your kdr didnt go up that game as much as you originally expected it to. You know me, yet who are you? BTW congrats on killing me lol Lord of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1209	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:55:00 - [17] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... And has less range (despite CCP stating Hyrbird - Plasma as short range and Laser - Pulse as medium range) and incredibly more dispersion. ASCR OP? I can't get the darn thing to work, I think it's garbage and I love all things Amarr. I feel more comfortable charging with an assault scrambler pistol than an assault scrambler rifle. Try aiming at their legs then eventually it will be perfect because the kick will bring the aim up a tiny bit. But I use it for CQC and same for the SMG. They are OP if you use it OP. Just takes some experimenting. Try or Die. It also disperses left and right, not just up. And I don't have time to run a weapon like a sidearm in my light weapon slot.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 519	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:56:00 - [18] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... That's like saying the GEK is better than the Six Kin smg The GEK is better than the Six Kin. At the appropriate range, which is mid
Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1464	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:01:00 - [19] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Really? Just really? Smg? Lawl oh yea, it's not like it's the underdog weapon in the game.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1586	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:02:00 - [20] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. I've been using the normal SCR and ASMG combo since uprising hit

Mamertine Son R.E.B.E.L.S 100	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:03:00 - [21] - Quote Also, scrambler smg combo before I heard it on the forums. People just figure this stuff out. I got the idea from ppl complaining about how weak armor is on account of all the AR users out there (and other things like regen). I simply picked up the next best thing to an AR for armor, the smg, its a spray and pray so I basically whip it out right before the scrambler over heats so most of my kills are really with the smg. I imagine a couple of noobs are beginning to feel the std smg is OP (I hope so at least...).
itsmellslikefish DIOS X. II Top Men. 174	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:11:00 - [22] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. I completly agree with you, i also think the scrambler rifle and smg is def op, I also think its a good idea to stand underneath an LAV whilts it is being deployed by an RDV. And it is definitely a great idea to to try and rocket jump with a forge gun or to assume everything that kills you is op because obviously if someone manages to kill your sorry joke of proto suit in a pub match, it automatically makes it unfair. Wut.
LoveNewlooy Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 44	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:34:00 - [23] - Quote who need smg when 80% player are cal-race. ASCR with 2 10% moulde and 15% skill pass it hit sheild about 70 dmg per bullet. (headshot its like 100 dmg) =D
Mamertine Son R.E.B.E.L.S 101	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:45:00 - [24] - Quote LoveNewlooy wrote: who need smg when 80% player are cal-race. ASCR with 2 10% moulde and 15% skill pass it hit sheild about 70 dmg per bullet. (headshot its like 100 dmg) =D I need the smg bc I suck at aiming but still love the gun. Took me ages to learn how not to over heat the thing but it still manages to kill me every once in while. (Sigh, I envy you amarrians).
LoveNewlooy Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 45	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:46:00 - [25] - Quote Mamertine Son wrote: LoveNewlooy wrote: who need smg when 80% player are cal-race. ASCR with 2 10% moulde and 15% skill pass it hit sheild about 70 dmg per bullet. (headshot its like 100 dmg) =D I need the smg bc I suck at aiming but still love the gun. Took me ages to learn how not to over heat the thing but it still manages to kill me every once in while. (Sigh, I envy you amarrians). ASCR rarely overheat tho =o
Mamertine Son R.E.B.E.L.S 101	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:53:00 - [26] - Quote LoveNewlooy wrote: ASCR rarely overheat tho =o eh... After playing with the AR for so long I got a little bored and decided I wanted to do some semi-auto mid ranged combat. I picked up the TAC but that's useless unless ur toting the proto variant. I'm now deciding whether to push on to the adv bc the std is actually pretty good by itself. the only thing an adv scr gets me is a couple of points of damage, hardly worth it for the cpu/pg usage...
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1210	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:56:00 - [27] - Quote Mamertine Son wrote: LoveNewlooy wrote: ASCR rarely overheat tho =o eh... After playing with the AR for so long I got a little bored and decided I wanted to do some semi-auto mid ranged combat. I picked up the TAC but that's useless unless ur toting the proto variant. I'm now deciding whether to push on to the adv bc the std is actually pretty good by itself. the only thing an adv scr gets me is a couple of points of damage, hardly worth it for the cpu/pg usage... If discussing the semi-auto Scrambler Rifles, that little extra bit of damage multiplied by the charge bonus is pretty substantial.
Skipper Jones Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 624	Posted - 2013.08.13 05:06:00 - [28] - Quote Viktor Vikrizi wrote: its only natural people would use such a combo because they work really well together . I had been using it before you had said anything Likewise. They MIGHT have realizesd that its such a good combo. Neither weapons are OP.
LoveNewlooy Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 46	Posted - 2013.08.13 05:28:00 - [29] - Quote weapon are fine, just becasue people are sheild tank and die too fast with that combo qq about it op.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 166	Posted - 2013.08.13 06:10:00 - [30] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... That's like saying the GEK is better than the Six Kin smg The gek is pound for pound possibly the best all around weapon in dust. You get so much fire power, range and ammo for like 8 k isk. Thats pretty nice

Lillica Deathdealer Mango and Friends 100	Posted - 2013.08.13 17:03:00 - [31] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Lillica Deathdealer wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. I highly doubt it. Just looking at corp tag automatically makes me assume you're bad Lord of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING btw I shot you. Afterwards you died. Enjoy that, proto friend, and your kdr didnt go up that game as much as you originally expected it to. You know me, yet who are you again? BTW congrats on killing me lol Lord of General Discussion Winner of Closed Beta Tester Tournament Winner of Eve/Dust 514 PvP Fanfest Tournament KDR > EVERYTHING Thanks for recognition. Also, you know me now, because I made a forum post and you responded. Congrats on helping me.
Your Absolut End Neanderthal Nation 141	Posted - 2013.08.13 17:08:00 - [32] - Quote Sorry bro but don't take yourself to serious. Might be some people jumped on that train after seeing your post, but I think a realistic number behind this might be 10-20 mercs. Personally I run the SCR (Not ASCR)/SMG combo since I had my respec and skilled away from the LR to the SCR. I sticked to the SMG, because it already was powerful in Chromo, and is a perfect equivalent to the LR, and even better for the SCR. If you call this fitting OP, don't forget to call the Duvolle OP-¦, because of it's ridicoulus range, precision and dmg. SCR/SMG is just a good combo because of all those shield fixated Cal Logis.
Aisha Ctarl The Generals EoN. 1019	Posted - 2013.08.13 17:16:00 - [33] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... And has less range (despite CCP stating Hyrbird - Plasma as short range and Laser - Pulse as medium range) and incredibly more dispersion. ASCR OP? I can't get the darn thing to work, I think it's garbage and I love all things Amarr. I feel more comfortable charging with an assault scrambler pistol than an assault scrambler rifle. Pretty much this. Amarr weapons are ranged weapons because they are lasers yet the ASCR is only good at hypothetical Gallente Blaster Range - anything past that, and the ASCR struggles. The ASCR is rage inducing due to its inconsistency.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2963	Posted - 2013.08.13 17:18:00 - [34] - Quote I haven't even noticed your post. I just knew they complemented each other perfectly. That, and the SMG is amazing once enough SP is into it. Even the toxin alone feels like an advanced weapon once enough SP goes into it.
Cobra CLUTCH79 OVERLORDS OF THE ONI SERPENT 29	Posted - 2013.08.13 17:19:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... That's like saying the GEK is better than the Six Kin smg The GEK is better than the Six Kin. At the appropriate range, which is mid DUVALL all the way
Cosgar ParagonX 4175	Posted - 2013.08.13 17:20:00 - [36] - Quote Bad trolling is bad...
Viktor Zokas 187. 206	Posted - 2013.08.13 17:36:00 - [37] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Real men use the smg to take down shields and the ascr to do the final killing. Just sayin.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 124	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:08:00 - [38] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... That's like saying the GEK is better than the Six Kin smg The GEK is better than the Six Kin. At the appropriate range, which is mid Not for CQC. I'm a CQC person.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 124	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:11:00 - [39] - Quote Mamertine Son wrote: LoveNewlooy wrote: ASCR rarely overheat tho =o eh... After playing with the AR for so long I got a little bored and decided I wanted to do some semi-auto mid ranged combat. I picked up the TAC but that's useless unless ur toting the proto variant. I'm now deciding whether to push on to the adv bc the std is actually pretty good by itself. the only thing an adv scr gets me is a couple of points of damage, hardly worth it for the cpu/pg usage... One charged shot and 2 uncharged shots usually kill them for me unless they are heavily tanked.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 34	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:38:00 - [40] - Quote The ASCR and Flaylock is a good combo

FLAYLOCK Steve Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 276	Posted - 2013.08.13 20:49:00 - [41] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: I've been seeing more and more SMG and ASCR kills in the kill board. I know I had nothing to do with it... but maybe I'm just being paranoid. Really? Just really? Smg? Lawl Whatever do you mean? /me keeps eyes away from quoted poster's name... Hahah no. Nice try.
miahus SyNergy Gaming EoN. 93	Posted - 2013.08.13 21:08:00 - [42] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Spycrab Potato wrote: The adv ASCR does less DPS than the Gek... And has less range (despite CCP stating Hyrbird - Plasma as short range and Laser - Pulse as medium range) and incredibly more dispersion. ASCR OP? I can't get the darn thing to work, I think it's garbage and I love all things Amarr. I feel more comfortable charging with an assault scrambler pistol than an assault scrambler rifle. You're completely right, the ASCR is complete garbage. The scrambler rifle is another story. If you say you love all things amarr, you should try the scrambler rifle with the amarr assault drop suit. The charge shot is not easy to master, but once you do get the hang of it, man it throws your opponent off balance, most of the time they think it is a sniper that hit them and will lose focus. The amarr assault dropsuit level 5 is a must to maximize the weapons potential, the 25% reduction to heat build up makes all the difference.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 124	Posted - 2013.08.15 17:17:00 - [43] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: The ASCR and Flaylock is a good combo FL doesn't have enough ammo...


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