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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.12 22:56:00 -
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Tieracide worked greatly in Eve Online which, for those who don't know it yet, is the big sister of Dust 514.
However, I'm still wanting to be cautious about the whole tieracide concept for Dust. I would first wait until most (emphasis on the word "most") of the suits, vehicles, modules, equipment, and weapons have been implemented and fairly balanced.
Once that is done you then have to consider the design of the skill tree itself. That will have to be revamped big time first.
You also have to remember that in Eve Online, the Brutix, Myrmidon, and Talos are still in their own separate tiers. We don't call a Talos a Tier III battlecuiser for nothing even after the tieracide. You still need Battlecuiser Level 3 to access the Talos compared to the Myrmidon and the Brutix. But overall each ship in the class still have their unique roles but can still be used for purposes outside their roles.
All things considered, AURUM items probably won't be impacted. At least not in a bad way. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3553
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:I swear some people are plain stupid. this is NOT EVE. If a player gets his proto gear is to use it. Stop QQ about everything jeebus xrist....
/Facepalms
Please take a good HARD look at the Dust 514 logo located on the top-left corner of this page. Tell me. What do you see above the word "DUST 514"? Eve, right? Does the game's lore match up with Eve? Yes, right? Does the game have you play as one of the four major factions of New Eden? Yes, right? Now take a look at a number of corps around here. Take a look at my corp, Dust University, and notice how many Eve characters you see in the corp. The same goes with all the other major corps out there.
Will we have a complex market in Dust just like in Eve? Yes.
Will we be able to scam each other and run complex ponzi schemes without getting banned by CCP? We can already do that.
Did the first beta testers for this game consist mostly of Eve players who got free early access to closed-beta? Yup.
Do we have a player-run council that is soon to become just like that of the Eve Online player-run council? Yup.
Do you see extreme metagaming in Dust just like in Eve? Yup.
Case closed. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3556
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:30:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:I swear some people are plain stupid. this is NOT EVE. If a player gets his proto gear is to use it. Stop QQ about everything jeebus xrist.... /Facepalms Please take a good HARD look at the Dust 514 logo located on the top-left corner of this page. Tell me. What do you see above the word "DUST 514"? Eve, right? Does the game's lore match up with Eve? Yes, right? Does the game have you play as one of the four major factions of New Eden? Yes, right? Now take a look at a number of corps around here. Take a look at my corp, Dust University, and notice how many Eve characters you see in the corp. The same goes with all the other major corps out there. Will we have a complex market in Dust just like in Eve? Yes. Will we be able to scam each other and run complex ponzi schemes without getting banned by CCP? We can already do that. Did the first beta testers for this game consist mostly of Eve players who got free early access to closed-beta? Yup. Do we have a player-run council that is soon to become just like that of the Eve Online player-run council? Yup. Do you see extreme metagaming in Dust just like in Eve? Yup. Case closed. World of Warcraft has the name WARCRAFT on it Its not the same game. Same universe? yes, same game? NO. Case closed. If i wanted to play EVE, i WOULD PLAY EVE. Im playing DUST because its not eve... >..>
I can't facepalm hard enough for this. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3556
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:34:00 -
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@King
You do realize that if the tieracide were to happen in the future, there is a likelihood that you might get reimbursed for SP invested in skills that get affected, right? Or CCP might give you extra SP like they did for the Eve Online players when they split up some of the generic skill books into faction variants depending on what skill level you trained and which prerequisites you met. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3556
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:40:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Yup, sorry for making sense and leaving you without a comeback. It happens.
Actually, you made no sense at all and you missed my point. Dust has everything about Eve coursing through its veins. Dust, according to CCP, will just be a different window looking into the same universe that Eve players are in.
Besides, CCP is the final authority on this and if they feel (maybe 5 years down the road) that maybe tieracide in order, then they will make their choice not only based on player feedback but also on the data they collected from how we use our items in the game.
Let's also not forget that it wasn't until well over 7 years after Eve Online was released that it finally underwent a tieracide. Therefore you have 5-7 years of tier-based fun to enjoy in Dust if the same pattern is followed. |
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