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Casius Hakoke
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2013.08.12 21:57:00 -
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I gave laser rifles a try today and I've got to say, I am very surprised that we don't see more of them on the battlefield. Given I feel they are very situational but once I found the right range to use it with I was melting everything.
This was with a basic laser rifle and a Gal militia assault suit. Aiming is real easy right now, just kind of strange with the iron sites, can't wait for the new sites for it will make it even easier to use.
I wonder how long its going to take for the cries of OP to start with the laser rifle, probably after the sites get changed. But just had to say, lots of fun melting people with it. |

kiro of justice
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.08.12 21:59:00 -
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It's useful and it's not an AR???? OP!!!!! CCP NERF NOW!!!!!!!! |

Casius Hakoke
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
226
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Posted - 2013.08.12 22:00:00 -
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kiro of justice wrote:It's useful and it's not an AR???? OP!!!!! CCP NERF NOW!!!!!!!! No stop....Nothing to see here people move along. |

Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
368
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Posted - 2013.08.12 22:24:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:I gave laser rifles a try today and I've got to say, I am very surprised that we don't see more of them on the battlefield. Given I feel they are very situational but once I found the right range to use it with I was melting everything.
This was with a basic laser rifle and a Gal militia assault suit. Aiming is real easy right now, just kind of strange with the iron sites, can't wait for the new sites for it will make it even easier to use.
I wonder how long its going to take for the cries of OP to start with the laser rifle, probably after the sites get changed. But just had to say, lots of fun melting people with it. Lol its chromosome all over again but trust me me and my ADV LR will make any caldari suit run for the hills |

Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2949
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:28:00 -
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I tried it too, it melts everything under the right situation. Should have an ELM by tomorrow. Might eventually try a laser-MD commando.
This is what bugs me about the community- they only use whatever is claimed to be OP. Trust me, if we started a convincing-sounding series of threads saying shotguns are OP (with a story about way too much range or something), we would see more shotguns than MDs. |

Kiiran-B
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
112
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:30:00 -
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I find the ADS to be reeeeeeeeally slow. Maybe buff that a bit? |

Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
356
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:32:00 -
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I have been using lasers on my scout suit (I know I'm playing with fire with respect to the overheat damage on such a low HP suit....) since they issued the 50 free copies of the burnstalk through that one email newsletter. I've been enjoying it as well! And I'm actually used to the sights now, believe it or not.
The LR is a great go-to weapon when you need to be another gun on the field pushing a stubborn enemy front. It provides nice situational control and backs up the AR users very well.
LR = dig it the most.
Gotta actually spend some real SP to skill into it now though.  |

Casius Hakoke
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
228
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:59:00 -
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I know I dropped just enough sp to try it out. While the ADS is pretty slow I don't feel like its hindering my aim when I'm using it at optimal range. I'm still feeling it out on certain maps, but had a blast on Manus Flats. Don't really think I'll invest much into it, I'm primarily saving my sp for whenever they add pilot suits(crosses fingers), but it and the shotgun scout I've been messing around with have proved an interesting enough distraction from tanking. |

Viktor Zokas
187.
200
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:16:00 -
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They are op, I generally get about 10-30 kills a match with them. |

Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
136
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:19:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I tried it too, it melts everything under the right situation. Should have an ELM by tomorrow. Might eventually try a laser-MD commando.
This is what bugs me about the community- they only use whatever is claimed to be OP. Trust me, if we started a convincing-sounding series of threads saying shotguns are OP (with a story about way too much range or something), we would see more shotguns than MDs.
This is how we create diversity lulz. Let's do it. |
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Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
433
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:20:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:I gave laser rifles a try today and I've got to say, I am very surprised that we don't see more of them on the battlefield. Given I feel they are very situational but once I found the right range to use it with I was melting everything.
This was with a basic laser rifle and a Gal militia assault suit. Aiming is real easy right now, just kind of strange with the iron sites, can't wait for the new sites for it will make it even easier to use.
I wonder how long its going to take for the cries of OP to start with the laser rifle, probably after the sites get changed. But just had to say, lots of fun melting people with it. Lol its chromosome all over again but trust me me and my ADV LR will make any caldari suit run for the hills You mean run towards your hills? |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1190
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:22:00 -
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Casius Hakoke wrote:I gave laser rifles a try today and I've got to say, I am very surprised that we don't see more of them on the battlefield. Given I feel they are very situational but once I found the right range to use it with I was melting everything.
This was with a basic laser rifle and a Gal militia assault suit. Aiming is real easy right now, just kind of strange with the iron sites, can't wait for the new sites for it will make it even easier to use.
I wonder how long its going to take for the cries of OP to start with the laser rifle, probably after the sites get changed. But just had to say, lots of fun melting people with it. I love the LR and ScR if either gets nerfed I'll be done with this game as CCP/ community cannot understand how balanced these two weapons are right now.
LR is good but by no means is it more than a situational weapons, you rarely if every will score triple kills or anything like that. I love this gun though its so unique and interesting.
I also hoped to god they wouldn't change the sights but some pansy ass whiners bitched to CCP and got it changed. |

True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1190
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:23:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:They are op, I generally get about 10-30 kills a match with them.
I tend to get 10+ kills a match with any weapon whats your point? |

Viktor Zokas
187.
201
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:24:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Casius Hakoke wrote:I gave laser rifles a try today and I've got to say, I am very surprised that we don't see more of them on the battlefield. Given I feel they are very situational but once I found the right range to use it with I was melting everything.
This was with a basic laser rifle and a Gal militia assault suit. Aiming is real easy right now, just kind of strange with the iron sites, can't wait for the new sites for it will make it even easier to use.
I wonder how long its going to take for the cries of OP to start with the laser rifle, probably after the sites get changed. But just had to say, lots of fun melting people with it. Lol its chromosome all over again but trust me me and my ADV LR will make any caldari suit run for the hills You mean run towards your hills?
They are easy to hit when they run in a straight line. |

Bulletmonkey50
Fallen Disciples The Minmatar Evolutionares
2
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:49:00 -
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yesss layzors are comin back, as a tip use the ELM with 2 complex damage mods. Everything dies. just everything, went 25 and 1 with it, got a death at the very end soo really 25 and 0  |

Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
40
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Posted - 2013.08.13 01:28:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:I have been using lasers on my scout suit (I know I'm playing with fire with respect to the overheat damage on such a low HP suit....) since they issued the 50 free copies of the burnstalk through that one email newsletter. I've been enjoying it as well! And I'm actually used to the sights now, believe it or not. The LR is a great go-to weapon when you need to be another gun on the field pushing a stubborn enemy front. It provides nice situational control and backs up the AR users very well. LR = dig it the most. Gotta actually spend some real SP to skill into it now though. 
Scouts for the win, man! I thought I was the only guy nutty enough to think Scout + Laser sounded like a plan.  |

Funky Chunky
FunkyStars
2
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Posted - 2013.08.13 01:58:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I tried it too, it melts everything under the right situation. Should have an ELM by tomorrow. Might eventually try a laser-MD commando.
This is what bugs me about the community- they only use whatever is claimed to be OP. Trust me, if we started a convincing-sounding series of threads saying shotguns are OP (with a story about way too much range or something), we would see more shotguns than MDs. All I ever use is the Glu- 5 AR don't know if it's OP or not but I don't care |

Viktor Zokas
187.
202
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Posted - 2013.08.13 02:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Viktor Zokas wrote:They are op, I generally get about 10-30 kills a match with them. I tend to get 10+ kills a match with any weapon whats your point?
Touche |

Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
425
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Posted - 2013.08.13 02:05:00 -
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I'd rather be doing 2 things:
1: Using MD/Scout
2: Reading reading Flannery O'Connor
Eat it.
Peace, Aizen  |

Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2958
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:09:00 -
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Bittersteel the Bastard wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I tried it too, it melts everything under the right situation. Should have an ELM by tomorrow. Might eventually try a laser-MD commando.
This is what bugs me about the community- they only use whatever is claimed to be OP. Trust me, if we started a convincing-sounding series of threads saying shotguns are OP (with a story about way too much range or something), we would see more shotguns than MDs. This is how we create diversity lulz. Let's do it. That can't create diversity- FOTMs work with sort of a pack mentality. People only use weapons when they seem heavily used. If we try to trick the player base into becoming diverse, chances are they'll just stay with ARs until another weapon becomes popular. |
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1055
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:13:00 -
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Bacon |

Iago Templar
SVER True Blood
16
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:55:00 -
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I love LR's and use them almost exclusively paired with my tt-3 scrambler pistol, I even managed to get used to the sights, but I am looking forward to having sights that are easier to see with.
Their are two things that really get to me. One is that the Viziam is only fractionally better than the ELM LR and only in the heat build up, why?
The other is that the optimal range for a LR is a tiny band of around 17metres which is ridiculous when compared to most other weapons 28-30m optimal band List Here Is there any way that could be tweaked to give the LR some extra range or bring the minimum optimal back a bit to make it less situational.
Hopefully these issues have already been addressed in the 1.4 update planned, but I just thought I should put it out there. |

Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
480
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:58:00 -
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I hope the LR comes back, people will get off the MD users ass. I remember in Chromosome where everyone used everything and all we had was......fun. |

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
5388
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:06:00 -
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Just got over a 1200 WP with a STD laser rifle (operation skill level 3), STD Amarr assault (skill level 3), STD SMG, 2 complex damage mods. Got 17 kills :) |

Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2962
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:13:00 -
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Speaking of diversity, I think I just beat FoxFour at our common goal- Of last night when I threw some SP into MDs just because, I now have a different fit for every situation.
Not quite every weapon, but every situation all the same. Who needs high-tier stuff when you have the perfect mid-tier fitting for the situation? |

Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven EoN.
920
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:18:00 -
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Forge+laser+md in a high point over an objective = objective cannot be captures
But yeah,lasers aren't terribly popular BC of the sights and they are assist machines. An elm with a complex damage mod is beast. |

low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
285
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:57:00 -
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i've got a laser loadout to keep the redberries at a single objective and play the perimeter. it's effective. you get a lot more assists than kills, but whatevs. |

ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1634
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:02:00 -
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Just wait, 1.4 will be the rise of the laser. With increased ADS speed and new sights... they are gonna be silly powerful.
The ADS speed right now is what has killed lasers imo... you just cant track a target reliably when its so slow. |

Cosgar
ParagonX
4175
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:15:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Just wait, 1.4 will be the rise of the laser. With increased ADS speed and new sights... they are gonna be silly powerful.
The ADS speed right now is what has killed lasers imo... you just cant track a target reliably when its so slow. Brace yourselves! |

Casius Hakoke
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
239
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:51:00 -
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After a little more use, I definitely agree that the optimal range for the laser rifle is too small. It really needs to be increased, maybe by 10 meters or so not real sure. I've been running with a toxin smg and always have that little surprise for when the reds think they can just close the range and get an easy kill.
But with this little experiment into laser rifles I think I might just spend some of my saved up sp and try and get a decent fit to use with it. I've just been running all militia fits but this might change my mind for a little while, don't really think pilot suits will come anytime soon and unless they make drastic changes to vehicles in 1.5 skill wise I've got nothing better to skill into. If I can find a good spot to hang out in I can get a decent number of kills with it, but it really is an assist machine, which I don't really mind, but if you can catch people in the optimal range they melt like ice cream on a hot summer day. |
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