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Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:37:00 -
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at the most basic level:
Are they directly from your corp? If not, then they are ringers. end of story. It's a fairly simple concept. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.14 01:52:00 -
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A ringer is someone brought in from outside your "clan" because you either can't field someone who is up to par, or you are simply short x number of members for a particular fight.
in dust, the corp is effectively the "clan" of other games. If they are not from your corp, then they are not from your "clan" which makes them a ringer. Have a nice day. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:06:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:A ringer is someone brought in from outside your "clan" because you either can't field someone who is up to par, or you are simply short x number of members for a particular fight.
in dust, the corp is effectively the "clan" of other games. If they are not from your corp, then they are not from your "clan" which makes them a ringer. Have a nice day. Seems simple enough, right? But apparently it isn't
well yeah, someone keeps trying to redefine the word clan while complaining about others, saying they're redefining ringers. the clan is the immediate group of friends and colleagues(corp), anything past that, and call it all you like, you're bringing in ringers. period. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
466
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Posted - 2013.08.14 02:56:00 -
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Really? A corp is suddenly just a bunch of randoms? They are suddenly not even tangentially related to you? Yet to you, an alliance is a clan. people who are harder to talk with, organize with, and work with by consequence.
A clan is a group of people under the same "end of name" tag, the "end of name" tags in dust are the corp names, so they are, in effect the clans of dust. and ringers are people from outside your clan, period.
Conceptually, the clan and corp are the same thing. Just because you don't like it does not mean it changes. Dust is trying to be other games currently, so it gets the same metrics and concepts applied. Until it truly becomes it's own game with it's own concepts(1-5 years from now I'm guessing, until then, it will just be a generic sci-fi shooter) it will be in the same cadre of games like CoD, Battlefield, and Planetside. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
466
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:10:00 -
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Me? I'm just some guy who goes wherever his bastard sense takes him. It leads me to fights that no one else wants to fight, or is unwilling to fight in an eloquent, Sisyphean manner. I will roll my boulder of **** uphill, until it rolls down and crushes someone.
Respose to your question, more directly:
Who are you to decide that you're unequivocally right? Your answer lies there. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
466
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:19:00 -
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Exactly. But someone just decides they're right for no other reason than they just don't want to listen to anyone for any reason? I'll take that fight 11 times out of 10 if it reaches my ears.
You're talking to someone who's argued non base ten math, colorblindness, and particle physics in the same paragraph, simply because someone tried to argue "basic facts" and say that their opinion carried the same weight as those. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
466
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:38:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Quite honestly, unless this argument is somehow related to PFC rules, I don't see the reason for it as people are going to play the way the want as they are free to do so. How each player defines ringer is also open to their own interpretation.
There isn't a reason, except for someone:
A: trying to assuage their guilty conscience.
B: Force their view on everyone else.
Both of which are wrong reasons. the first because if you feel bad doing it, then stop doing it. and the second because **** you, people are different, and they're not going to change just because you say to.
not directed at you of course, just pointing it out.
SkIlL Sh0oTeR wrote:you guys say that if they some one doesn't share the same tag as other people on their team then they are considered ringers, but look at all the people from top men who have posted on this thread what does it say right under their corp name "Top Men" so wouldn't that mean they technically share the same tag?
Nope. the corp is the tag shown in game, therefore it is the clan name, and not sharing one is a definition of a ringer. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
466
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:55:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:Nope. the corp is the tag shown in game, therefore it is the clan name, and not sharing one is a definition of a ringer. This particular game being really really incomplete and poorly implemented, does not make us wrong. ;)
You not being wrong doesn't automatically make you right. |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.15 02:12:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:I'm just sitting here watching Heathen pwn lol
Yay, I got a fan! |
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