DUST Search - armor tanks benefit more from shield repers then shield tanks.

Zekain Kade wrote:

Because of their armor HP. Once a shield tank loses all of its shields, its screwed. There is almost no way to save it if there is immediate AV near by. A militia swarm , or a standard av grenades will kill it once the tank reaches its small armor threshold.

Armor tanks are different because of their armor HP. If their shields go down , they're still able to put up a decent fight. Its armor repairs, and hardenders support its survival.

If I were to use my logo lav, I have a better chance at using to support an armor tank than a shield tank. They have a small shield reserve, but those shields help the tanker eat weapons that would rip through its armor. Proto swarms are far less scary when your shields are constantly being repaired by a logo buggy. Nearly all of the damage would be absorbed, and only 1-2 missals would actually impact his armor, which isn't a big deal.

A nicely fit SOMA that's supported with an llav can become far more threatening then a well fitted Maddy

Plus most AV players are so use to fighting unsupported tanks, that when you actually help one, you receive hate mail from the Aver's XD

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Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1459	Posted - 2013.08.12 15:07:00 - [1] - Quote Because of their armor HP. Once a shield tank loses all of its shields, its screwed. There is almost no way to save it if there is immediate AV near by. A militia swarm , or a standard av grenades will kill it once the tank reaches its small armor threshold. Armor tanks are different because of their armor HP. If their shields go down , they're still able to put up a decent fight. Its armor repairs, and hardenders support its survival. If I were to use my logo lav, I have a better chance at using to support an armor tank than a shield tank. They have a small shield reserve, but those shields help the tanker eat weapons that would rip through its armor. Proto swarms are far less scary when your shields are constantly being repaired by a logo buggy. Nearly all of the damage would be absorbed, and only 1-2 missals would actually impact his armor, which isn't a big deal. Plus most AV players are so use to fighting unsupported tanks, that when you actually help one, you receive hate mail from the Aver's XD
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2601	Posted - 2013.08.12 15:08:00 - [2] - Quote 1.5.
Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1459	Posted - 2013.08.12 15:17:00 - [3] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: 1.5. Haha, sure.
Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 138	Posted - 2013.08.12 15:28:00 - [4] - Quote This is something I've noticed. I know people that just ignore the subpar shield reppers, and go for pure buffer. Especially since the light transporter reps just as hard as the heavy booster.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 1039	Posted - 2013.08.12 15:31:00 - [5] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Because of their armor HP. Once a shield tank loses all of its shields, its screwed. There is almost no way to save it if there is immediate AV near by. A militia swarm , or a standard av grenades will kill it once the tank reaches its small armor threshold. Armor tanks are different because of their armor HP. If their shields go down , they're still able to put up a decent fight. Its armor repairs, and hardenders support its survival. If I were to use my logo lav, I have a better chance at using to support an armor tank than a shield tank. They have a small shield reserve, but those shields help the tanker eat weapons that would rip through its armor. Proto swarms are far less scary when your shields are constantly being repaired by a logo buggy. Nearly all of the damage would be absorbed, and only 1-2 missals would actually impact his armor, which isn't a big deal. A nicely fit SOMA that's supported with an llav can become far more threatening then a well fitted Maddy Plus most AV players are so use to fighting unsupported tanks, that when you actually help one, you receive hate mail from the Aver's XD I wish infantry shield dropsuits had this problem.
The legend345 TeamPlayers EoN. 854	Posted - 2013.08.12 15:48:00 - [6] - Quote With respect, no to all of the above. Shield suck in general not worth fitting on my tank. A supported shield tank will still get **** on. Trust me if tired it all.
Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1459	Posted - 2013.08.12 16:17:00 - [7] - Quote The legend345 wrote: With respect, no to all of the above. Shield suck in general not worth fitting on my tank. A supported shield tank will still get **** on. Trust me if tired it all. An armor tank with shield support is probably the most effective vehicle combo. The shields absorb weapons that would otherwise shred its armor. and the amount of shields they have will put the av players in a false sense of security. Shields are now 10% resistant to forges, and 30% resistant to swarms. That bubble can tank quite a bit if it is being repaired by a logi buggy. It takes quite a bit of pressure off your armor repairs if you need to fall back, or tank more AV that would otherwise kill you.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2457	Posted - 2013.08.12 16:22:00 - [8] - Quote Me and Mary Sedillo noticed this also. We were Spider Tanking, Madrugar/Gunnlogi tag team, I ran pure buffer Gunnlogi with a Light Transporter, his was a Madrugar with a Heavy Transporter (Plus the ability to rep his armor), he pretty much had a normal fit. I constantly had a light rep on him and he was pretty damn invincible. That said, so was I with that damn Heavy Transporter, It's like a Armor Rep but for shields :D
ratamaq doc 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 41	Posted - 2013.08.12 16:25:00 - [9] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Because of their armor HP. Once a shield tank loses all of its shields, its screwed. There is almost no way to save it if there is immediate AV near by. A militia swarm , or a standard av grenades will kill it once the tank reaches its small armor threshold. Armor tanks are different because of their armor HP. If their shields go down , they're still able to put up a decent fight. Its armor repairs, and hardenders support its survival. If I were to use my logo lav, I have a better chance at using to support an armor tank than a shield tank. They have a small shield reserve, but those shields help the tanker eat weapons that would rip through its armor. Proto swarms are far less scary when your shields are constantly being repaired by a logo buggy. Nearly all of the damage would be absorbed, and only 1-2 missals would actually impact his armor, which isn't a big deal. A nicely fit SOMA that's supported with an llav can become far more threatening then a well fitted Maddy Plus most AV players are so use to fighting unsupported tanks, that when you actually help one, you receive hate mail from the Aver's XD I'll let you armor tankers in on a little secret. I have more trouble killing an armor tank that has put effort into their shields (2k+) then I do one that has no shields. I've been cought a few times by these deceptive double tankers. If I can remove your shields in the first AV grenade, then my next two are most of the time going to kill you. If my first does not remove your shield, then my next two are not. I now double check tank stats to decide if I need to drop a nano when I get into potision on you.
KEROSIINI-TERO Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 656	Posted - 2013.08.12 16:27:00 - [10] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Because of their armor HP. Once a shield tank loses all of its shields, its screwed. There is almost no way to save it if there is immediate AV near by. A militia swarm , or a standard av grenades will kill it once the tank reaches its small armor threshold. Armor tanks are different because of their armor HP. If their shields go down , they're still able to put up a decent fight. Its armor repairs, and hardenders support its survival. If I were to use my logo lav, I have a better chance at using to support an armor tank than a shield tank. They have a small shield reserve, but those shields help the tanker eat weapons that would rip through its armor. Proto swarms are far less scary when your shields are constantly being repaired by a logo buggy. Nearly all of the damage would be absorbed, and only 1-2 missals would actually impact his armor, which isn't a big deal. A nicely fit SOMA that's supported with an llav can become far more threatening then a well fitted Maddy Plus most AV players are so use to fighting unsupported tanks, that when you actually help one, you receive hate mail from the Aver's XD Interesting point.

TunRa The Vanguardians 42	Posted - 2013.08.12 16:29:00 - [11] - Quote Did this with my limbus. The freindly mad tank was so horrible and would have been killed by the well fitted enemy mad. BUT I WAS THERE! I repped him constently and the other tank pilot got his ass kicked.
Aardicus D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 6	Posted - 2013.08.12 19:31:00 - [12] - Quote My best games as an armor tanker have come from being in a squad of full of logi's that, you know, logi. I can basically sit ON the objective (in Dom) and repel all enemy rushes. Most AVers assume I'm just another dumb armor tank waiting to die to swarms/av nades.(Which normally I am) But with up to 3 logi's with adv/proto rep tools I last long enough to keel them before they keel me. I guess a tank with logi support is unusual enough that it takes half the match or longer before they realize I'm being healed and then start going after the logis. This teamwork is a win/win for all, I get a large kill total and wp total, and the logi's get an equally HUGE wp reward. In one match we got 5 orbitals... Props to the mad logi skill in P.R.O.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 576	Posted - 2013.08.12 19:37:00 - [13] - Quote Shield tanks are going to get more mileage out of shield transporters than armor tanks will. Why? Resists. If a shield tank has 23.5% resistance (aka Shield Upgrades V and a Ward Shield Amplifier), for every 100 points of shield they are transported they're gaining ~131 effective points of shield. So, a shield tank is going to use a shield transporter more effectively, but they happen to suck ATM.
Aardicus D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 6	Posted - 2013.08.12 19:46:00 - [14] - Quote Halador Osiris wrote: Shield tanks are going to get more mileage out of shield transporters than armor tanks will. Why? Resists. If a shield tank has 23.5% resistance (aka Shield Upgrades V and a Ward Shield Amplifier), for every 100 points of shield they are transported they're gaining ~131 effective points of shield. An armor tank, with 0% shield resists, will gain 100 points of effective shield, because they've got no resists... Herp derp.. So, a shield tank is going to use a shield transporter more effectively, but they happen to suck ATM. Point well taken, but while I armor tank, I also have the 10% shield resist skill. Y'know, just because.
Zekain Kade TeamPlayers EoN. 1464	Posted - 2013.08.13 03:03:00 - [15] - Quote Personally I think shield tanks should gain 10% bonus to how much health they are receiving from shield transporters, and vise versa for armor tanks, and remote armor repers. But that's just me.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1125	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:02:00 - [16] - Quote pro logi tanker here.. armor tanks are easier to keep their shields up and use them to take fire off of me. so yes this is true. btw dual remotes on mine.(armor& shield) allied shield tankers just take more focus to support with remotes.
KalOfTheRathi Black Phoenix Mercenaries 570	Posted - 2013.08.13 04:05:00 - [17] - Quote My Mad fits have a couple of variations. One includes ~5.1K armor, armor hardeners and 2K shield. If the shield drops I hit the repair and decide if it is time to book. This works even on the higher armor lower shield versions. Dropping shields is the best indicator that the invisible swarm monster is after you. I find that Nox is better overall than shields for my Mad. Hit the gas, hit the bottle and GTFO. If I have two light armor reps then hit one of them or wait to see if we take a hit for the larger version. If there is room to escape I might hit the large armor rep and focus on making it to safety. All of which would matter more if I was a better tanker.


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