DUST Search - Possible Game Idea, CCP: Institute Fuel Limits For All Vehicles

Henchmen21 wrote:

Billi Gene wrote:

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

I'm pretty sure in EvE their equivalent is the capacitor. It gets depleted from using on-board systems from what I've heard, although I don't play EvE personally.

Yes, that's the idea.

I made a post in Feedback about how I hope vehicle capacitors can come in for 1.5.

Imagine being able to make your vehicle cap stable and perma-run your resistance hardeners?

Now, AVers, before you panic, imagine getting a grenade or mine you can use the drain energy from vehicles to make them vulnerable.

Now, suddenly, you have both superior vehicles and more tools for AVers brought in at the same time, and the subsequent vehicle buff is automatically kept in balance.

yeah it really seems like an ideal way to balance it all out, stronger tank and stronger AV, all within bounds created by the opposing sides tactics.

energy neutralizing grenades, mines and a energy neut version of the remote repper, along with webber versions creates the tank trapper mindset, countered directly by tanks now trying damned hard to steer clear of any situation that allows infantry to get that close.

a balance sweep on turret and module cpu/pg would allow
a. low meta turrets and strong passive tank,
b. cap stable tank with the highest meta turrets fit-able or
c. high meta turrets with temp active tank for glass cannon hit and run.

balancing so that version a. can only fit 3x small turrets would be a doozy, as far as cpu/pg balancing goes.

/just_an_idea

So you get 4 things to take out a tank and the tank gets to steer clear of infantry. Guess what tanks already have to do that as it is. If you get all that energy neutralizing and webbing I want smart bombs to kill infantry with in a 50-75m radius.


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Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3061	Posted - 2013.08.12 11:51:00 - [1] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: I'm pretty sure in EvE their equivalent is the capacitor. It gets depleted from using on-board systems from what I've heard, although I don't play EvE personally. Yes, that's the idea. I made a post in Feedback about how I hope vehicle capacitors can come in for 1.5. Imagine being able to make your vehicle cap stable and perma-run your resistance hardeners? Now, AVers, before you panic, imagine getting a grenade or mine you can use the drain energy from vehicles to make them vulnerable. Now, suddenly, you have both superior vehicles and more tools for AVers brought in at the same time, and the subsequent vehicle buff is automatically kept in balance.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3063	Posted - 2013.08.12 14:09:00 - [2] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Billi Gene wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Logi Bro wrote: I'm pretty sure in EvE their equivalent is the capacitor. It gets depleted from using on-board systems from what I've heard, although I don't play EvE personally. Yes, that's the idea. I made a post in Feedback about how I hope vehicle capacitors can come in for 1.5. Imagine being able to make your vehicle cap stable and perma-run your resistance hardeners? Now, AVers, before you panic, imagine getting a grenade or mine you can use the drain energy from vehicles to make them vulnerable. Now, suddenly, you have both superior vehicles and more tools for AVers brought in at the same time, and the subsequent vehicle buff is automatically kept in balance. yeah it really seems like an ideal way to balance it all out, stronger tank and stronger AV, all within bounds created by the opposing sides tactics. energy neutralizing grenades, mines and a energy neut version of the remote repper, along with webber versions creates the tank trapper mindset, countered directly by tanks now trying damned hard to steer clear of any situation that allows infantry to get that close. a balance sweep on turret and module cpu/pg would allow a. low meta turrets and strong passive tank, b. cap stable tank with the highest meta turrets fit-able or c. high meta turrets with temp active tank for glass cannon hit and run. balancing so that version a. can only fit 3x small turrets would be a doozy, as far as cpu/pg balancing goes. /just_an_idea So you get 4 things to take out a tank and the tank gets to steer clear of infantry. Guess what tanks already have to do that as it is. If you get all that energy neutralizing and webbing I want smart bombs to kill infantry with in a 50-75m radius. The question is: are you using your secondary gun slots, or trying to solo-tank to avoid secondary gunners "stealing your kills"? Most of the AV that gets you in the game right now is coming at you from long range. Cap draining devices could be a grenade, for instance, requiring the player to get well within range of your small turrets to successfully use it, and it might take several of them to drain you out completely. So with this proposal, having someone get you in their sights with a Breach Forge at 400 meters is no longer an instant death sentence, because you can have your hardeners always active.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3071	Posted - 2013.08.12 19:04:00 - [3] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Cant really redline a blaster tank, least not if you are going to be useful. Well then you have nothing to worry about! Get some guys from your Corp to fill your turrets, get on audio with each other, and coordinate targets to ensure your vehicle stays safe. Your hardeners will handle attacks from range, and your secondary gunners will handle infantry that get too close. Also, when I was talking about the idea of a grenade or mine for cap drain, I'm not talking on the same level as our current AV nades. They would be un-guided like Flux Grenades, and you'd need to toss several to drain out a vehicle completely.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3071	Posted - 2013.08.12 19:08:00 - [4] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: This is the worst idea since the Vietnam War. However, the general concept can be applied to having active modules run off of a continuously recharging capacitor, which I think is an excellent idea.