We'll be closely watching your feedback on these changes as well as monitoring the data to see how they play out live after 1.3 rolls out. As we see Flaylocks and Contact Grenades being used more and more, we had to do something about it and quickly, so players start coming back to the other grenade and sidearm options we offer in game.

you got to be kidding me that flaylock is still very useful. and no one uses the smg as a primary lmao.. its strengths in armor damage just like the flaylock. i bet my money on the flaylocker anyday over the smg guy when the shields are down.

Flaylocks were noob tubes. You at least have to aim an SMG and be able to strafe.

No dual SMG's on a proto min assault defines spray and pray. 200 rounds of terror.

Posting in a stealth nerf AR thread.

In competitive matches more people used the Flaylock than the SMG (by far).

SMG might be used as a primary as some people, but does that mean there's a problem? Hardly, the SMG isn't as good as an AR plus the SMG has the highest fitting requirements of all the sidearms so it should be the sidearm closest to a primary.

Flaylocks on the other hand have the lowest fitting requirements of all the sidearms, so obviously this should be the sidearm furthest from an actual primary weapon. I'm pretty sure people still use it alongside a primary, mainly as a finishing kind of weapon, as intended.

/thread.

Flaylocks are still quite powerful and I know a few people who still use them. They all say the weapon feels perfect in its sidearm finisher niche it was supposed to fill. Also the fitting requirements are practically non existent making it the sidearm of choice for many.

You just need to get good buster, you shouldn't have to rely on crutch OP explosive weapons.

Flaylock is fine, doesn't need any changes until they fix explosive damage fall off.

Without respecs, usage stats aren't as viable as they can be.

Flaylocks can't be rework until they fix explosive fall off. I would rather it remains as is than have it become the problem it was back in 1.2.

SMG's are balanced. Flaylocks promoted a "close enough is good enough" attitude where players don't have to be accurate as long as they can fire in a general direction and with an lol explosive. In most games SMG's are players favorite weapon, because they not only promote high mobility, but they are usually just as good if not better than the assault rifle in capable hands.

Heres the thing. Winmatar suit gives a bonus to sidearm clip size, most noticeable on SMG. Whats wrong with taking advantage of suit/weapon synergy? Also, scrambler pistols are awesome. SMG is more common because people like their hitscan pray and spray.