DUST Search - casual play needs more addressing

dday3six wrote:

Minor Treat wrote:

dday3six wrote:

Minor Treat wrote:

dday3six wrote:

I think PVE is a better answer then a causal gameplay mode.

i agree but we wont see PVE anytime soon... So what i am thinking is a temporary solution for casual play

The problem is there's not way to block players with bad intentions. Part of the reason (though I don't agree with the change) that Acadamy changed was due to players creating alts and trolling it for ISK.

yeah i understand that.. But what i am suggesting is a game mode where you get no stats recorded so people trolling these game mode lose that incentive to be apart of it (at least a portion). Another incentive is skill point and isk gaining. I was thinking reduced the skill point game to like 300 skill points max and since there is preset gear you can't gain any ISK at all.

There comes a point when liking a game's concept, design, what have you, is not enough overlook a dislike of the game's general game play application. The sort of drastic changes your suggesting are bordering that point in my opinion. Furthermore people don't troll for points or to top the boards. They troll to amuse themselves, and some have rather low standards of entertainment.


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Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2013.08.11 23:26:00 - [1] - Quote I've noticed that casual play is virtually non-existent in this game, I wouldnt mind for the most part until no one is on. Most players run High end gear and run with Corporation. I admit i am guilty too. sometimes the huge jumps from weapon level to weapon level really hurt playing the game casually since a lot of players just play with the best gear they got and those who don't have good gear get run down hard. The Matches are very Lopsided and makes it hard to play the game casually since everyone is playing for keeps. (nothing wrong with that) Hoping maybe we could get a new gamemode for casual play... I know Instant battles in more for that kind of Casual playing but many players that are higher up since the beta get to jump into instant and crush the opposing side. Its always a lose when someone is running prototype gear and your running adv or militia. And majority of players are running instant with full man squads or 16 man teams. Typically i did not mind until most of my corporation members are busy and i tried running the game on my own.. Well i lost quite a bit just because of equipment levels (people are using prototype gear too). So i was thinking maybe we could get 8v8 back with only militia gear or preset gear and have it not count towards are stats so people cannot farm on this gamestyle. (or introduce PVE finally) A simple Casual game mode that is short and sweet would be nice to play when you have capped out for the week and none of your corporation members are on at the time. and heck you could limit the skill point gaining massively on 8v8. I really only find myself playing Dust 514 when Most of my corporation members are on and when i wanna play the game casually it takes one match of completely getting destroyed for me to be reminded its pointless to run a match alone. Then i just hop off and wait for members to play which hurts the motive to comeback on a consistent basis when thats the motivation for many other shooters out there. What's others thoughts.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2013.08.11 23:34:00 - [2] - Quote Planetside2PS4F2P wrote: Yo proto pub stomping is a viable tactic for crushing newbs here in New Eden. HTFU indeed it is but unfortunately It would be nice to play the game on equal terms just for shooting sakes. And No Stats get recorded on it so people can't abuse the mode.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2013.08.11 23:42:00 - [3] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: I agree. I watch video's like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owlj4s3AICc and wish there was a non proto FotM game mode, they try to stay in Faction Warfare, but even then it's just not enough. Yeah but you also run the huge risk of running into 16 man squads since thats the best way to coordinate a 16 man squad and more importantly Factional Warfare is just not frequent enough... sometimes it takes 20 minutes just to see one.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2013.08.11 23:52:00 - [4] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I consider myself semi-casual, and I'm doing fine. Just takes a little longer to get certain skills- we have passive SP gain, after all. yeah but i ain't talking about skill points, I am talking about a Game Mode where you can just not get completely overrun when your not playing with a corporation. And to be honest I am not a casual Dust player at all, but since there is no PVE yet it would be nice to have a casual game mode so we can just play without feeling overwhelmed by weapon tiers and organized squads. I also wholeheartedly believe that if someone has a organized team your team should lose if you don't organize but that also hurts casual playing since that happens a lot in instant battle. I mean we have PC and Mercenary Battles for that kind of thing, but the real issue is one team will get a team of stronger equipped players. So why not introduced a preset match type with no records for stats and get very little skill point gain.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2013.08.11 23:57:00 - [5] - Quote dday3six wrote: I think PVE is a better answer then a causal gameplay mode. i agree but we wont see PVE anytime soon... So what i am thinking is a temporary solution for casual play
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 30	Posted - 2013.08.12 00:06:00 - [6] - Quote dday3six wrote: Minor Treat wrote: dday3six wrote: I think PVE is a better answer then a causal gameplay mode. i agree but we wont see PVE anytime soon... So what i am thinking is a temporary solution for casual play The problem is there's not way to block players with bad intentions. Part of the reason (though I don't agree with the change) that Acadamy changed was due to players creating alts and trolling it for ISK. yeah i understand that.. But what i am suggesting is a game mode where you get no stats recorded so people trolling these game mode lose that incentive to be apart of it (at least a portion). Another incentive is skill point and isk gaining. I was thinking reduced the skill point game to like 300 skill points max and since there is preset gear you can't gain any ISK at all.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 41	Posted - 2013.08.12 00:35:00 - [7] - Quote dday3six wrote: Minor Treat wrote: dday3six wrote: Minor Treat wrote: dday3six wrote: I think PVE is a better answer then a causal gameplay mode. i agree but we wont see PVE anytime soon... So what i am thinking is a temporary solution for casual play The problem is there's not way to block players with bad intentions. Part of the reason (though I don't agree with the change) that Acadamy changed was due to players creating alts and trolling it for ISK. yeah i understand that.. But what i am suggesting is a game mode where you get no stats recorded so people trolling these game mode lose that incentive to be apart of it (at least a portion). Another incentive is skill point and isk gaining. I was thinking reduced the skill point game to like 300 skill points max and since there is preset gear you can't gain any ISK at all. There comes a point when liking a game's concept, design, what have you, is not enough overlook a dislike of the game's general game play application. The sort of drastic changes your suggesting are bordering that point in my opinion. Furthermore people don't troll for points or to top the boards. They troll to amuse themselves, and some have rather low standards of entertainment. thats is an opinion you're entitled too. But What i am suggesting isn't drastic at all... Its one game mode that was introduced for the Academy why not casual play than. Also yes when the dislikes outweigh the games premise than the overall perspective is you dislike the game. But without casual playing then there will be a very small players base and more importantly no incentive to play Dust without having a squad of people you trust which further draws a smaller player base. A single game mode with no little incentive to play it will only draw in a small player base. But more importantly its a temporary solution till PVE comes out. As for people abusing themselves i wont go so far as to say that because I am not that kind of player but i would like to play a game mode without feeling pressured to lose every match without my squad of trusted corp members.