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Nova Knife wrote:mollerz wrote:
And that is a couple of examples in a long list. I heard CPM plays on closed servers with CCP? If this is true, is this where you play test future builds?
Oh man, you have no idea how much we wish this were true. The mere existence of a test server would almost certainly have prevented so, so many issues. Edit: Expanding on that - All of our 'foreknowledge' of upcoming builds comes from idle chat on skype or rough outlines of patchnotes, and the semi-regular meeting we have for them to say "So, these are the highlights of our plan for 1.X, questions?" It's very rare for us to actually 'see' firsthand any of these changes. The only time this has been the case is when we got to see Uprising a little early at Fanfest (But then, so did everyone else who went to Fanfest.) We get some screenshots here and there for art stuff, but nothing nearly concrete enough or nearly as helpful as a test server would be. (There are /tons/ of roadblocks into getting a test server set up, and it's been a really tough sell trying to convince CCP of the merits of such a server, especially since we want such a server to be -public-)
Having spent the last 10 years playing Eve, I read this with a heavy heart. Every thing in the OP post took me back to a time, before the Jita Riots, Before the Super Cap "balance"... to a time when the only T2 mod was a Mining Laz0r... and before the CSM (the eve CPM).
It seems to me, that CCP with Dust have forgotten so much of what they learnt from Eve and the way they communicate with the player base.
Everything from poorly implimented patches to stealth nerfs, that largely have been put right by CCP, with the help of the CSM. I wonder if Helma, remembers the promises made by him after the Jita riots.. promises of better communicate, a transparent process and above all, a CCP that listens and understand, we own the game every bit as much as CCP. I also wonder if he is foolish enough to think that the guys who play Eve and those that live in Dust are not the same people... the same people with long memories.
It really sadness me to think that CCP are making the same mistakes with the Dust community and again failing to treat us with the respect, if nothing else our money deserves.
CCP are a service company, they provide a service in the form of a game, most service industry companies would have gone out of business had they had the same outlook as CCP appears to have toward Dust. In fact, I honest feel that had Eve not been so good as a game that they would have already failed and it was only the sheer brilliance of Eve that kept the player base spending their $15 (-ú9.99) a month.
Certainly, In eve it took 8 year nearly and a MASSIVE player protest before they finally got the message.
If you want CCP to take notice, it seems to me... you have to hit them where it hurts, either in Eve (which is their baby and the only reason they can afford to run Dust) or in their wallets... stop buyiny Aurum, Tank Packs and boosters...
While I think that the CSM does work in eve, it seems the CPM currently don't have the same fire power.
On the subjected quoted... why the **** are we not given some access to SISI for testing? Eve players are and I know full well CCP get a great deal of good feedback and use SISI to ensure Eve patches are now nearly flawless. I find it shocking that the CPM have no access to this server, if not a select few of the grunts on Dust.
In closing the one thing i would say is this. Dust will get better, CCP really do know how to build something amazing, given time, it took years to get eve right and even now it has it's flaws. The only way, however they will sort this is in the same way they did with Eve.. start to listern to your customers, we are not all half witted, crisp muching, sofa camping morons........ |