DUST Search - Statement from CPM0 - "State of affairs : Communication & Trust"

Buster Friently wrote:

Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:

Once again Buster, if you're so committed to the idea that we're not representing the player base via our recommendations to CCP, put some effort into it, start a thread and state your case using linked, verifiable examples. Otherwise you're going to continue to look fairly silly ranting about repression, dictatorships and government - the last of which (government) is hugely indicative of your lack of understanding about our mission in the first place. The CPM does not exist to govern anything, really. We're a volunteer community advocate group. Ultimately, its the community that gets to decide whether we advocate for their needs, not just you. If the feedback to your comments in this thread is any indication than its pretty clear that you are the one that is out of touch with the majority here, not the CPM.

Thanks to everyone else in the meantime for keeping the discussion focused and constructive.

Hmm, ad hominem now, well I should have known.

Of course you don't govern anything, but you are in a privileged position. A position you shouldn't have.

Let's find out together shall we:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101733&find=unread


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D3LTA SUP3RMAN D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass 265	Posted - 2013.08.13 11:25:00 - [1] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: Once again Buster, if you're so committed to the idea that we're not representing the player base via our recommendations to CCP, put some effort into it, start a thread and state your case using linked, verifiable examples. Otherwise you're going to continue to look fairly silly ranting about repression, dictatorships and government - the last of which (government) is hugely indicative of your lack of understanding about our mission in the first place. The CPM does not exist to govern anything, really. We're a volunteer community advocate group. Ultimately, its the community that gets to decide whether we advocate for their needs, not just you. If the feedback to your comments in this thread is any indication than its pretty clear that you are the one that is out of touch with the majority here, not the CPM. Thanks to everyone else in the meantime for keeping the discussion focused and constructive. Hmm, ad hominem now, well I should have known. Of course you don't govern anything, but you are in a privileged position. A position you shouldn't have. Let's find out together shall we: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101733&find=unread I agree with you 100% that the current CPM do not really represent the community in that they were hand picked by CCP. I hope the CPM understands the communities frustration with this. CCP's stance is that the CPM represents the community and the communities interests, however the community views the CPM as CCP's hand picked politicians used more so to squash problems and be a figure head, not actually a voice for what we want. Think about it: a delegation that is asked to represent a large group is hand picked by the opposition. Out can't help but see the conflict of interest and our frustration. That being said, this statement from the CPM also makes it clear that they don't have the trust, respect, or power the community needs in order to improve this game. So, regardless who is on the CPM, that isn't the primary issue. We can sit here all day and argue who should be on the CPM, and who shouldn't be, but it's irrelevant at this point, because the CPM does not have the resources it needs to be successful; trust, respect, and influence in CCP decisions. This argument of who deserves a spot on the council is a waste of time right now, however when these positions actually carry something more than a fancy title (and nice little banner under their name) we should definitely have this debate. For now, let's focus on CCP's issues, not the councils.