DUST Search - Get rid of PC

ZDub 303 wrote:

kiarbanor wrote:

When you throw the broken mechanics on top of this, the game will not survive. PC has been a hit detection mess from the start. Guys will wear the exact same fittings/gear as these "top corps," but somehow bullets don't count the same. It's like these corps know something that other people don't.

Se\7eN has faced all sorts of different corps in PC; when we play mid to low tiered corps, our bullets register just fine. However, when we play the high tiered corps, we all of a sudden have hit detection issues. For example, I have 16 mil SP, have a fully equipped proto ck.0 with Duvolle--all the bells and whistles--yet, I will go 0-10 and cause little to no damage in one-on-one situations. I'm not the best FPS, but I'm okay. You would think I could at least get passed shields as they rip through over 800 of my HP.

I'm not saying people are cheating; let's get that straight. What I'm saying is something isn't right on PC. I have no idea how to fix anything, either. Everything I can think of, other than a complete reset of ISK and PC (which I'm not for), doesn't fix the issues. Sorry for the vent, but the game is starting to frustrate me.

Happy Gaming!!!

Its just better strafing, and you are probably seeing more and more people use m/kb as you face higher and higher tier corps. M/KB gives you the 'instant strafe' advantage where its instant between A and D but controllers have travel time for joystick movement

Who needs hit detection when we have mass drivers though? **** you don't need to aim those at all, they are like swarms for infantry.


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kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 172	Posted - 2013.08.11 18:45:00 - [1] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: AnALogginS wrote: Django Quik wrote: Yes, PC has its problems (that are being worked on by the way) but these problems are hardly 'ruining the whole game'. If you don't like PC, you don't have to play it. All they're getting from doing it is isk and it's not like that's hard for anyone to get millions if by running a couple of hours in starter/MLT gear. The rate that the few are gaining isk does make it effect the game greatley. I dont see how thats despuitable. When you can see a name and know that this group is going to proto stomp pub matches everytime you see them effects the game The chromosome salvage refund hurt the game much more than PC ever will. Like i said, the system just needs iteration is all. It's a cool idea in theory and makes this game unique from other lobby shooters. If TTG doesn't have time to work on PC then maybe adjustments to the passive income are necessary until they do. I agree with you, whole heartedly, that the salvage was a major mistake. Then CCP continued to make mistakes with PC. I have cut CCP some slack and haven't criticized them because the concepts and potential of this game are better than I've ever experienced. However, my patience is running thin. The "economy" of Dust--whatever that is--is a major concern. The rich are getting richer, which influences every aspect of the game (proto stomping in pubs, for instance), and the poor can't keep up, which forces them to either deal with it or quit the game. I've witnessed a lot of people quitting. When you throw the broken mechanics on top of this, the game will not survive. PC has been a hit detection mess from the start. Guys will wear the exact same fittings/gear as these "top corps," but somehow bullets don't count the same. It's like these corps know something that other people don't. Se\7eN has faced all sorts of different corps in PC; when we play mid to low tiered corps, our bullets register just fine. However, when we play the high tiered corps, we all of a sudden have hit detection issues. For example, I have 16 mil SP, have a fully equipped proto ck.0 with Duvolle--all the bells and whistles--yet, I will go 0-10 and cause little to no damage in one-on-one situations. I'm not the best FPS, but I'm okay. You would think I could at least get passed shields as they rip through over 800 of my HP. I'm not saying people are cheating; let's get that straight. What I'm saying is something isn't right on PC. I have no idea how to fix anything, either. Everything I can think of, other than a complete reset of ISK and PC (which I'm not for), doesn't fix the issues. Sorry for the vent, but the game is starting to frustrate me. Happy Gaming!!!
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 174	Posted - 2013.08.11 19:17:00 - [2] - Quote Maybe you're right, Deluxe. If so, though, then they have to do something about strafing. What some mercs can do is simply unnatural.
kiarbanor S.e.V.e.N. 175	Posted - 2013.08.11 22:28:00 - [3] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: kiarbanor wrote: When you throw the broken mechanics on top of this, the game will not survive. PC has been a hit detection mess from the start. Guys will wear the exact same fittings/gear as these "top corps," but somehow bullets don't count the same. It's like these corps know something that other people don't. Se\7eN has faced all sorts of different corps in PC; when we play mid to low tiered corps, our bullets register just fine. However, when we play the high tiered corps, we all of a sudden have hit detection issues. For example, I have 16 mil SP, have a fully equipped proto ck.0 with Duvolle--all the bells and whistles--yet, I will go 0-10 and cause little to no damage in one-on-one situations. I'm not the best FPS, but I'm okay. You would think I could at least get passed shields as they rip through over 800 of my HP. I'm not saying people are cheating; let's get that straight. What I'm saying is something isn't right on PC. I have no idea how to fix anything, either. Everything I can think of, other than a complete reset of ISK and PC (which I'm not for), doesn't fix the issues. Sorry for the vent, but the game is starting to frustrate me. Happy Gaming!!! Its just better strafing, and you are probably seeing more and more people use m/kb as you face higher and higher tier corps. M/KB gives you the 'instant strafe' advantage where its instant between A and D but controllers have travel time for joystick movement Who needs hit detection when we have mass drivers though? **** you don't need to aim those at all, they are like swarms for infantry. Again, you guys might be right. But they need to fix strafing then. If it's m/kb, then they need to fix it. Right now, if what you and Deluxe are saying is true, there is no way for joystick mercs to compete with m/kb, unless they pull out noob tubes, which I refuse to do. Honestly, Se\7eN has some very talented console FPS's. but when we go up against the top corps, we look like we picked the game up yesterday. It's not SP; it's not gear or fittings. It's either server issues or strafing, like what you're saying.