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bacon blaster
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:36:00 -
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Ok, so, say whatever you want, but the stupid thing has way too much defense. It shrugs off av like a tank. In fact, it basically is a high speed tank with a tiny turret. Logi is supposed to be kind of squishy, or in some way, vulnerable in a fight, but logi lavs are only vulnerable if they get stuck long enough for people to really pound them. Seriously, due to their being slower, tanks are more vulnerable to incoming fire than logi lavs.
The logi lav needs either a large speed reduction, or a large tank reduction. |
Alena Ventrallis
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:14:00 -
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Their defenses are good, the problem is that using them for actual logo is unintuitive, and they should accelerate much slower and have slightly less top speed. The tank is so they can sit there and rep, but the rep they have is almost unusable. Thus they mudertaxi. Once the collision nerf hits, if they make the repper way simpler to use, and reduce acceleration and top speed, then the large tank will be justified.
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bacon blaster
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:20:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Their defenses are good, the problem is that using them for actual logo is unintuitive, and they should accelerate much slower and have slightly less top speed. The tank is so they can sit there and rep, but the rep they have is almost unusable. Thus they mudertaxi. Once the collision nerf hits, if they make the repper way simpler to use, and reduce acceleration and top speed, then the large tank will be justified.
The problem with their speed and tank is that they are psychotically hard to kill. I get guys telling me that these thing can take more direct hits from a forge gun than some tanks, which is just silly for anything that is labled as "light." You combine this with their horrendous speed, and there's no reason not to murder taxi.
The logi tool on it probably does need work, but the vehicle itself also needs some adjusting. Really, tanks are easier to kill than this. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
392
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:20:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Their defenses are good, the problem is that using them for actual logo is unintuitive, and they should accelerate much slower and have slightly less top speed. The tank is so they can sit there and rep, but the rep they have is almost unusable. Thus they mudertaxi. Once the collision nerf hits, if they make the repper way simpler to use, and reduce acceleration and top speed, then the large tank will be justified.
Keep the top speed, reduce the acceleration by 75%, and make the repper a AOE bubble. There, fixed.
Peace, Aizen |
bacon blaster
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
129
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:24:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Their defenses are good, the problem is that using them for actual logo is unintuitive, and they should accelerate much slower and have slightly less top speed. The tank is so they can sit there and rep, but the rep they have is almost unusable. Thus they mudertaxi. Once the collision nerf hits, if they make the repper way simpler to use, and reduce acceleration and top speed, then the large tank will be justified.
Keep the top speed, reduce the acceleration by 75%, and make the repper a AOE bubble. There, fixed. Peace, Aizen This doesn't address any of the things I mentioned at all. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:25:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Keep the top speed, reduce the acceleration by 75%, and make the repper a AOE bubble. There, fixed. Peace, Aizen
That is a clear, simple, and workable solution the LLAV issue. CCP I demand you do it now (by which I mean 1.5). |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
393
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:40:00 -
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bacon blaster wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Their defenses are good, the problem is that using them for actual logo is unintuitive, and they should accelerate much slower and have slightly less top speed. The tank is so they can sit there and rep, but the rep they have is almost unusable. Thus they mudertaxi. Once the collision nerf hits, if they make the repper way simpler to use, and reduce acceleration and top speed, then the large tank will be justified.
Keep the top speed, reduce the acceleration by 25%, and make the repper a AOE bubble. There, fixed. Peace, Aizen This doesn't address any of the things I mentioned at all.
Actually, it does. You said either take away it's tank, which it needs, or take away it's top speed, which it technically needs, since it's secondary function is small troop transport. So by reducing the speed is also a no. SO we can decrease it's attack power, which is already done (the collision fix, plus the 50% reduction of damage from LLV turrets), I feel people will still complain about it. So, we could decrease the acceleration, it'll be fine. we could actually decrease it's top speed as well if we make it into this. Lastly, the Logi vehicles should get a static bonus towards fitting the triage module, as well as any remote repper. This will get people into actually fitting them, because it will fit and you still have enough room for other things.
TL;DR- Make the LLV's accelerate slower, and change the infantry repper into a AOE bubble triage module. |
Trey Hardin
REAPERS REPUBLIC
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:50:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:bacon blaster wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Their defenses are good, the problem is that using them for actual logo is unintuitive, and they should accelerate much slower and have slightly less top speed. The tank is so they can sit there and rep, but the rep they have is almost unusable. Thus they mudertaxi. Once the collision nerf hits, if they make the repper way simpler to use, and reduce acceleration and top speed, then the large tank will be justified.
Keep the top speed, reduce the acceleration by 25%, and make the repper a AOE bubble. There, fixed. Peace, Aizen This doesn't address any of the things I mentioned at all. Actually, it does. You said either take away it's tank, which it needs, or take away it's top speed, which it technically needs, since it's secondary function is small troop transport. So by reducing the speed is also a no. SO we can decrease it's attack power, which is already done (the collision fix, plus the 50% reduction of damage from LLV turrets), I feel people will still complain about it. So, we could decrease the acceleration, it'll be fine. we could actually decrease it's top speed as well if we make it into this. Lastly, the Logi vehicles should get a static bonus towards fitting the triage module, as well as any remote repper. This will get people into actually fitting them, because it will fit and you still have enough room for other things. TL;DR- Make the LLV's accelerate slower, and change the infantry repper into a AOE bubble triage module.
This is actually something i agree with u about. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
230
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Posted - 2013.08.11 19:31:00 -
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Remove all of it's killing power. All of it, take out the turret, fiddle with it's speed or something to make it unable to run people over. Then its toughness will be justifiable. It's easier to kill a tank than one of these. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
84
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Posted - 2013.08.12 12:48:00 -
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So three armor tanked heavies will ride around in a LAV, activate the repper bubble, get out, decimate you, then get back in...
I suppose if you are really skilled you and 2 others can AV their vehicle and try to kill them, but good luck doing so before they tear your apart with boundless HMGs... |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2444
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Posted - 2013.08.12 13:00:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:So three armor tanked heavies will ride around in a LAV, activate the repper bubble, get out, decimate you, then get back in...
I suppose if you are really skilled you and 2 others can AV their vehicle and try to kill them, but good luck doing so before they tear your apart with boundless HMGs...
Make it so a guy needs to Pilot it for the bubble to work :)
Oh and, this promotes teamwork, something Infantry players have been demanding from Vehicles.. so there you go :)
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