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Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:18:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:So i'm about 10 days in now. Had my share of ups and downs. The downs have been extremely low. The ups have been not much higher than the downs. Trying to stay optimistic. If i'm having a bad run I get on the forums, catch my breath, clear my head, pick up some tips when possible and dive back in. I know it's not suppose to be easy, I don't want it to be easy. I just crested a minor dune that was Assault Rifle Operation level 5, and started climbing the next dune that is Assault Rifle Proficiency. I've kept my balls on the prize for most of my short Dust life span, but after a particularly bad night of play tonight, I've been having more and more trouble pushing a thought out of my head; What happens when I crest the next dune, and yet again all I can see for miles and miles is endless desert? I was feeling that I was finally starting to grasp what it took to be competitive and effective in Dust, but now I feel like i'm grasping at air, I feel like i'm regressing, I feel like i'm getting worse. I don't feel as though I've made bad decisions spec wise, though I am far from an expert on the topic. Got my Minmatar M-1 DS, as I said I have put quite a heap into the AR, and after seeing the jump in SP requirement from level 1 to level 2 of AR Proficiency, I have started working on some of the cheaper shield skills before dedicating myself to another massive SP investment. I currently sit at around 1.6 mil SP, I'm attempting to run a straight assault, and I realize that I need quite the bag of leveled tricks (nades, suit, shields, weapon, passives, mods) to really hold my ground as a "run into the middle of the sh!t and clean it up" assault type but with the shellackings I've been handed tonight, spirits are definitely low on the Mujunk family farm. My KDR is hovering at around 0.48 or so, and I know that KDR isn't everything (pretty damn important though) but it still sucks to see. I'm usually able to get a minimum of 400-500 WP, but this has come from such an eclectic group of sources (smattering of kills, usually a ton of assists, maybe a primary hack or two, hand full of secondary hacks and maybe a blaster or rail gun installation here and there) that I feel like i'm not really growing into my chosen role as I should, I feel more as though i'm scooping up garbage on the outskirts of the real battles. I would like to think it's not due mainly to mistakes on my part (but who knows). I'm aware of my surroundings, pick my spots and avoid fights when outclassed, keep an eye on the radar, check my 6 when I have a free moment, try and think team wise whether I have my mic active or not, and squad up when I can. When squaded up my stats look a bit better, but not much. I am more often than not the weakest link, and any stat improvement is most likely due both directly and indirectly to my squads ability as opposed to any actual skill on my part. Definitely not QQing, I am definitely not a savant when it comes to FPS games of any type, but I always did fancy myself to be at least a touch above the common rabble, though i'm starting to feel like I may have made a major miscalculation in regards to that opinion. Not really sure where I was taking this magical tale, but I guess if I had to sum it all up into a single question, Do Dust Vets say HTFU (never actually been told this personally) because they were once in my exact shoes, and their hearts and souls were smashed into oblivion, or because for most the game isn't really as difficult as I feel that it is? Was hoping I was on the verge of graduating to the next level of skill and ability, but i'm starting to feel like I may have to repeat the 1st grade. I want to read this. I really do. But there are no landmarks for my eyes to help me keep track of where I am as I read. It would require intense concentration to get through it without losing my place and this would cause severe eye strain which would probably give me a severe head ache. Did you consider this when you wrote it? |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:10:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Reading and focus are a chore for some. You don't have to read it if you don't want to. I apologize for any damage to your eye sight that may have resulted, and if you are looking for an easy read may I suggest one of the 2-4 sentence weapon nerf posts that seem to spawn every few minutes on the forums. Spelling, grammar, and the general intelligence level of those posts can be hit or miss, but may be more your speed. Yes, but the Like and the amount of response suggest that it is worth reading, but I am just not up to it this morning.
I donGÇÖt suppose you could edit it and break it up into individual thoughts with spaces between? That would make it far easier to read for a Dyslexic like me. I feel the early effects of eye strain just reading normal posts today, and I fear if I try to tackle this, that would be the end of reading the forums for me until I have a chance to sleep it off.
It is not even a long post, compared to the books that I write on here. It is just that it is such a long paragraph without any spaces.
Maybe I will read it tomorrow when my eyes are fresh. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
811
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:13:00 -
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Oh, screw it! I am going to copy this into WordPerfect, pop an Ibuprofen, and see if I can straighten out the formatting. When that is done, maybe I will be able to address whatever issues you bring up in your post. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
811
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:30:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote: So i'm about 10 days in now. Had my share of ups and downs. The downs have been extremely low. The ups have been not much higher than the downs. Trying to stay optimistic. If i'm having a bad run I get on the forums, catch my breath, clear my head, pick up some tips when possible and dive back in.
I know it's not suppose to be easy, I don't want it to be easy. I just crested a minor dune that was Assault Rifle Operation level 5, and started climbing the next dune that is Assault Rifle Proficiency. I've kept my balls on the prize for most of my short Dust life span, but after a particularly bad night of play tonight, I've been having more and more trouble pushing a thought out of my head; What happens when I crest the next dune, and yet again all I can see for miles and miles is endless desert?
I was feeling that I was finally starting to grasp what it took to be competitive and effective in Dust, but now I feel like i'm grasping at air, I feel like i'm regressing, I feel like i'm getting worse. I don't feel as though I've made bad decisions spec wise, though I am far from an expert on the topic.
Got my Minmatar M-1 DS, as I said I have put quite a heap into the AR, and after seeing the jump in SP requirement from level 1 to level 2 of AR Proficiency, I have started working on some of the cheaper shield skills before dedicating myself to another massive SP investment. I currently sit at around 1.6 mil SP.
I'm attempting to run a straight assault, and I realize that I need quite the bag of leveled tricks (nades, suit, shields, weapon, passives, mods) to really hold my ground as a "run into the middle of the sh!t and clean it up" assault type but with the shellackings I've been handed tonight, spirits are definitely low on the Mujunk family farm. My KDR is hovering at around 0.48 or so, and I know that KDR isn't everything (pretty damn important though) but it still sucks to see.
I'm usually able to get a minimum of 400-500 WP, but this has come from such an eclectic group of sources (smattering of kills, usually a ton of assists, maybe a primary hack or two, hand full of secondary hacks and maybe a blaster or rail gun installation here and there) that I feel like i'm not really growing into my chosen role as I should, I feel more as though i'm scooping up garbage on the outskirts of the real battles. I would like to think it's not due mainly to mistakes on my part (but who knows). I'm aware of my surroundings, pick my spots and avoid fights when outclassed, keep an eye on the radar, check my 6 when I have a free moment, try and think team wise whether I have my mic active or not, and squad up when I can.
When squaded up my stats look a bit better, but not much. I am more often than not the weakest link, and any stat improvement is most likely due both directly and indirectly to my squads ability as opposed to any actual skill on my part. Definitely not QQing, I am definitely not a savant when it comes to FPS games of any type, but I always did fancy myself to be at least a touch above the common rabble, though i'm starting to feel like I may have made a major miscalculation in regards to that opinion. Not really sure where I was taking this magical tale, but I guess if I had to sum it all up into a single question, Do Dust Vets say HTFU (never actually been told this personally) because they were once in my exact shoes, and their hearts and souls were smashed into oblivion, or because for most the game isn't really as difficult as I feel that it is?
Was hoping I was on the verge of graduating to the next level of skill and ability, but i'm starting to feel like I may have to repeat the 1st grade.
A good read. How can such a compelling and articulate writer not have learned to use paragraphs?
It is going to take me a bit to formulate a response to the questions you have asked. I have to head out for lunch now, but will try to post a some helpful advice when I get back. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
811
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:41:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk, here is my feedback and advice to you:
- I have over 10 million skill points and I still only have Proviciency at 3 on my primary weapons. Your gun skills are good for now. You got a lot of core Dropsuit Upgrade skills to work on before you put more points into Weapons or Dropsuits.
- I often say that the Minmatar Assault suit is the toughest Scout suit around! That is a little tung in cheek, but what I mean by that is the Minmatar assault suit is really squishy compared to other Assault suits, but its greater speed makes it effective for someone who likes the Scout play style but wants more health than a Scout suit.
If you want to be full on ground pounding Frontline Assault you may want to switch to Caldari Assault. They have much more health and tend to have a much higher survival rate. (I play both suits types.)
- Max out both the base Shield skill (+5% shields per level) and the base Armour skill (+5% armour per level). This will make a big difference to your survivability. By the time you are working on levels 4 and 5 it will take some major skill point investments, so if you need to skill some base skills to fit the equipment you want, you should probably do that, but your goal is to get both the base Shield and Armour skills maxed. I noticed a big jump in my survivability when I got those skills levelled.
- Here is some perspective on Kill Death Ratio * For ever kill there is a death, but accidents donGÇÖt register as a kill, so the average KD is less than 1.
* The average Tank might have a KD of 10 to 20 and the average sniper might have a KD of 4 to 8. Someone has to die for each of those kills, so the average KD for Assault has to be well below 1.
* Your KD is actually better than mine. Although I play so many different roles and experiment with so many wacky ideas that my KD does not mean a whole lot.
* If it makes you feel any better I think something like 90% of Scouts have a lower KD than you do.
* Yes there are Assault players who have high KDR, but you have to be well above average as a player to go positive with Assault. (You need to be GodGÇÖs second cousin to go positive as a Scout.)
- 400 to 500 WP is not bad for a relatively new player.
- You KDR will be much higher when running with an organized squad that can communicate. And when I say organized I mean Assault/Logi/Heavies running together and covering each other, Scouts flanking, and Snipers covering from the hills and giving a running commentary on enemy troop movements. Having a bunch of green dots scattered randomly across the map is not the same thing. When running with a organized squad expect to get a tun of assists. Getting the actually kill is just luck of the draw.
- This week there is a double skill point event where you get double the skill points for each WP you earn. I suspect that a lot of people are bringing out the expensive gear and running matches at a financial lose to get the extra skill points. This means it is a bad week for new players as there will be more than the usual amount of Proto gear on the field.
- Finally, I suspect from reading this that you are a better player than you think you are. Try the Caldari Assault suit, and level some of those essential base skills. You will see improvements.
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Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
814
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:42:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Thanks for the help guys. I've found my enthusiasm to operate about the same as bonus SP. I've only got so much each week, and when it runs out things suck lol. But with a bit of grinding today I should reach Minmatar Assault DS level 2, setting myself up to hit level 3 by some point next weekend I would imagine, giving me the ADV Min Assault DS, and with the still relatively cheap SP costs for my shield upgrades, i'll boost my shield abilities and i'll be looking to have a breakout weekend (hopefully). Bit of a funny story, I was SOOO focused on trying to start upping my passive AR damage that it wasn't until I read Spectral Clones post that I realized I had gained access to Proto ARs. Doesn't change anything currently as my suits CPU/PG can't handle anything above STD, but it seems to be another good reason to focus on my ADV DS. I do have a fitting question. With the Minmatars small amount of low powered slots, what should my feelings be in regards to armor plating? I gained access to STD armor plating extremely early in an attempt to increase survivability. I had been thinking I would run an armor plate and whatever the mod is that increases sprint speed (to counter act the plates movement penalty) when I got my ADV suit. Im wondering though if the minimal protection of one plate is worth having to mod my sprint speed, or would I be using 2 high level mods and only be receiving average at best performance enhancement? Or should I not worry as much about speed and drop 2 armor plates in? I know the shield regulators are low power slot mods, but the delay on shield recharge hasn't really effected me one way or another. If I get into a fight I can't handle and i'm not killed immediately, i'm usually able to get away if I chose to run, and a few seconds extra for my shields to begin recharging doesn't seem to matter. Anyway, thanks again guys for the help, and Jaysyn thanks for the offer, i'll definitely be getting in touch with you next weekend, for the time being though I think i'm gonna do some solo grinding, get myself to the point where I can start seriously worrying about tactics and less about getting OHK every 45 seconds. - Putting Armour plate on a Minmata suit would be very unconventional.
- You will want to put an Armour Repair mod on just about any suit, unless you run with a logi bro all the time.
- The Green (stamina recovery) or the Red (speed) biotics are also good choices for low slots.
Suits: Caldari: Shield tanked and tough. Minmitar: Shield tanked, squishy, but fast. Gallenti: Armour tanked and tough, but slow. Amarr: Armour tanked. (Not as familiar with the Amarr suits) |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
817
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Posted - 2013.08.13 18:59:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Depending on the role and tier, a min assault can get away with using a ferroscale or even basic plate instead of a rep (I agree with you generally) because of the suit's built in 1hp/sec armor repair. Really tough to squeeze anything else into the lows ... coming from a Cal Logi, Min Assault is a pain in the ass to fit properly lol. I should look at the ferroscale more closely. You say it has a built in repper? That could be more effective than the Armour repper, since it is really only there to rep you between fights anyway, at least when used on a shield tanked suit. I should have paid more attention when that was released. |
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