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steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
1056
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Posted - 2013.08.10 20:55:00 -
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And if they do are they kids like implanted right away. I mean having parents that have died like 1000 times cant lead to a healthly. Childhood |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
40
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Posted - 2013.08.10 20:58:00 -
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I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1123
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:07:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me.
Judged. |
steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
1056
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:22:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me.
o...k... well this does lead to the next question of clearly one your immortal you dont really care about having kids |
Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
847
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:23:00 -
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Would save on diaper changes. "Hmm think the baby needs changing" pulls out pistol...
NOTE in no way does this merc promote or condone immortal infanticide just leaving it out there as an option thats all. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1124
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:34:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me. o...k... well this does lead to the next question of clearly one your immortal you dont really care about having kids
I'm sure the clone body probably isn't designed for child bearing.
Possibly we may have to consider that even on a genetic level immortal mercenary clones are modified to loose erroneous organs for combat in order to have reinforced bodies.
We may also have to consider hour the mercenary mind reacts to being of infomorphic orgin. How does the mind cope with jumping from body to body, then turning its attentions to supporting a child?
Also combat merc clones are near on 7 feet tall....
Even so This One gave up the chance to have children in order to serve his people as one of God's avenging angels. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
41
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me. Judged.
What? If some chick who has never even seen an immortal before suddenly wants to show her appreciation for saving her planet from being glassed, who am I to say no?
If anything, it would be rude to refuse the offer. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1124
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Posted - 2013.08.10 22:46:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me. Judged. What? If some chick who has never even seen an immortal before suddenly wants to show her appreciation for saving her planet from being glassed, who am I to say no? If anything, it would be rude to refuse the offer.
Yeah just hop in to that leisure clone and get ready to go.
I certainly do miss my mortal life on Mehkios somewhat. A normal life would have been a wonder thing to live. |
Jedah McClintock
McClintock's Mercs
40
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:34:00 -
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I assume if you put together the scratch you could buy yourself a clone body with all the bits and pieces fully functional when you have a mind to retire. Might be a little tricky and expensive to get set up in a new permanent body, but if you got the money there's no way you're gonna be told no.
In theory, seems little reason for giving one's progeny an implant isn't impossible, but the ethical concerns do give one pause and I'm not too sure about the market for clone babies. Constantly dying aside, I imagine that there's little to differentiate the toll of an immortal mercenary parent would take compared to any other parent who is often away on business.
Granted, my perspective could mean I am mad as a hatter. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1124
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:38:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:I assume if you put together the scratch you could buy yourself a clone body with all the bits and pieces fully functional when you have a mind to retire. Might be a little tricky and expensive to get set up in a new permanent body, but if you got the money there's no way you're gonna be told no.
In theory, seems little reason for giving one's progeny an implant isn't impossible, but the ethical concerns do give one pause and I'm not too sure about the market for clone babies. Constantly dying aside, I imagine that there's little to differentiate the toll of an immortal mercenary parent would take compared to any other parent who is often away on business.
Granted, my perspective could mean I am mad as a hatter.
Thing is when doing this you would need to spend 9 months in the custom clone to manage that bodies systems.
Jumping out of that body over and over could have massively traumatic effects on the child. |
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Jedah McClintock
McClintock's Mercs
40
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:49:00 -
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Suffice to say that I would highly recommend waiting till you are gonna retire before having kids, whether natural born or adopted or whatever. However, that's not a bad thing. Getting to enjoy the family life is something to fight for no matter how crazy the battles, labyrinthine the intrigue, or traumatizing the constant death. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1125
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:51:00 -
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Jedah McClintock wrote:Suffice to say that I would highly recommend waiting till you are gonna retire before having kids, whether natural born or adopted or whatever. However, that's not a bad thing. Getting to enjoy the family life is something to fight for no matter how crazy the battles, labyrinthine the intrigue, or traumatizing the constant death.
That is a concept I think we can both agree on. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
323
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Posted - 2013.08.11 03:55:00 -
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I have heard of a few capsuleers who have their own families, or had ones before coming a capsuleer. I do not see a probldn that would prohibit from an infomorph making children, not unless you are missing, equipment. But that can be fairly easily fixed by using a little ISK to buy yourself personalized clones. Biologically, there is no problem on having a child as an infomorph. If you can cope it psychologically, that is a whole different issue. I have seen how the sleeper implant can affect one's mind, and I have suffered some of its effects too.
However, I met a capsuleer family once who had a child and all of them seemed perfectly healthy for me, the kid was really smart, I even gave him my glove to show for his friends. So in the end, as long as you can handle the duties of a father/mother psychologically, you could have a child just as easily as a baseliner or a capsuleer(as a small note though, I would advise females against jumping out of their bodies if they are pregnant).
Medic 1879 wrote:Would save on diaper changes. "Hmm think the baby needs changing" pulls out pistol...
NOTE in no way does this merc promote or condone immortal infanticide just leaving it out there as an option thats all.
No no no no no no, that is not how it works, don't you even know the basics of cybernetics and being an infomorph? The sleeper implant is not genetically inherited, it gets put into your brain which allows the instant conciousness transfer, technology doesn't magically inherit to a child simply because the parents are informorphs.
But as a sidenote, anyone could buy a clone for their baby and record their conciousness, and you could just wake your baby in a new clone if he comes problematic. However, that would involve a lot of pain and fear when you suddenly wake up in a body that isn't really yours, despite the fact that you just died. It would be a very traumatazing experience for the child.
Just, don't even try it, even if it would be technically feasible with soft clones. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1460
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Posted - 2013.08.13 17:49:00 -
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We have eternal life!
And eternal child support bills... |
Disciple Of Kesha
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Imperial Outlaws.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.16 23:32:00 -
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None of you have bothered to actually look under the dropsuit? It's like a childs doll down there. And not one of the educational ones.
I suppose you could custom order one with all the kibbles and bits, but at that point wouldn't it be easier to just make a new clone and set some of the features to random? |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
108
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:11:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:We have eternal life!
And eternal child support bills...
Heh, I wouldn't think child support would bother an immortal clone too much... after all; we do get rewarded handsomely for a well done contract.
We would still go broke..... |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:19:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me.
Ha just hit and run Galm? |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
61
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:36:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me. Ha just hit and run Galm?
I prefer the term bang and bail.
That was a joke.
Mostly. |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.08.17 03:15:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I haven't tried... Or rather, I have never stuck around long enough afterwards to find out.
Don't you judge me. Ha just hit and run Galm? I prefer the term bang and bail. That was a joke. Mostly.
Ha! You sound like one of my older brothers. I swear he was a master at that. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
463
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:36:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:And if they do are they kids like implanted right away. I mean having parents that have died like 1000 times cant lead to a healthly. Childhood
We are not civilians they're many citys in Dust and many civilians living in space a merc is a bad ass we don't need children. |
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SickJ
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
87
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
Thing is when doing this you would need to spend 9 months in the custom clone to manage that bodies systems.
Mortals call that 'Maternity Leave'
Anyway, I believe in having children the proper way: By accident, after a night of drinking and exercise with a pair of athletic Gallentean women.
EDIT@Medic 1879: Would our implants even work on kids? I suppose it's a comforting thought that any children we have could be forced to learn first-hand how the mortals live. Reminds me of an old story from Ancient Earth. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1347
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:35:00 -
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SickJ wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Thing is when doing this you would need to spend 9 months in the custom clone to manage that bodies systems.
Mortals call that 'Maternity Leave' Anyway, I believe in having children the proper way: By accident, after a night of drinking and exercise with a pair of athletic Gallentean women. EDIT@Medic 1879: Would our implants even work on kids? I suppose it's a comforting thought that any children we have could be forced to learn first-hand how the mortals live. Reminds me of an old story from Ancient Earth.
They would have to be implanted with the technology at a later stage of their lives.
Also if im not mistaken at one point there were concerns about the first gen clones being unstable due to interfacing with sleeper tech/ sleeper infomorphs.... while the newer gen implants may protect us, what about a child of a clone solider? |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
20
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Posted - 2013.08.19 03:02:00 -
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Wow you guys are something else, but I can't say too much. I've had a few fun filled nights with a few women here and there. Not all the time, just when the time was right and the drinks were made perfectly. |
Jackson Olosko
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:51:00 -
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Do... Do we even have the proper organs to reproduce?
I wouldn't know, I still haven't gotten my armour off. And on that note, are we even designed to feel an emotion like love or something? I mean occasionally I'll see a bunch of clones checking out the only female on the War Barge, but I don't really think that counts.
That's like. Primal or something. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1357
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Posted - 2013.08.19 10:26:00 -
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Jackson Olosko wrote:Do... Do we even have the proper organs to reproduce?
I wouldn't know, I still haven't gotten my armour off. And on that note, are we even designed to feel an emotion like love or something? I mean occasionally I'll see a bunch of clones checking out the only female on the War Barge, but I don't really think that counts.
That's like. Primal or something.
That's what I was wondering im sure clone solders are optimised for combat thus any superfluous organs would be redundant in a combat clone and substitutes could well be added for great efficiency.
However custom clone bodies can have whatever organs you want in them, male mind could fill a female body, you could be whatever you wanted to be. |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
21
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:04:00 -
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Jackson Olosko wrote:Do... Do we even have the proper organs to reproduce?
I wouldn't know, I still haven't gotten my armour off. And on that note, are we even designed to feel an emotion like love or something? I mean occasionally I'll see a bunch of clones checking out the only female on the War Barge, but I don't really think that counts.
That's like. Primal or something.
I'm sure we have our organs. The feelings of sexual drive and the such during combat time might be lowered. Once in casual mode and out of the armor it is it's normal human sex drive. At least I assume so. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
200
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:59:00 -
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Female clones do possess secondary sexual characteristics. We can explain this partly in terms of making sure that we're not having to cope with an overly unfamiliar distribution of mass, but that's only part of it.
Most of the reason for maintaining sexual dimorphism in clones is psychological, letting us feel more or less "ourselves" while we're riding around in bodies we will occupy for twenty minutes at the extreme outside. While having external sexual characteristics may not be mission-critical or even very helpful in and of itself, it does limit the strain of what is really a pretty alien experience.
That being the case, it is highly improbable that male clones in any empire have been neutered. Sterilized, yes; neutered, no. |
Flux Raeder
WarRavens
League of Infamy
152
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Posted - 2013.08.20 00:43:00 -
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Disciple Of Kesha wrote:None of you have bothered to actually look under the dropsuit? It's like a childs doll down there. And not one of the educational ones.
I suppose you could custom order one with all the kibbles and bits, but at that point wouldn't it be easier to just make a new clone and set some of the features to random?
I wouldn't be so sure, the female clones certainly seem nicely endowed I the upper-regions |
SickJ
sephiroth clones
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
87
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:32:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:Disciple Of Kesha wrote:None of you have bothered to actually look under the dropsuit? It's like a childs doll down there. And not one of the educational ones.
I suppose you could custom order one with all the kibbles and bits, but at that point wouldn't it be easier to just make a new clone and set some of the features to random? I wouldn't be so sure, the female clones certainly seem nicely endowed I the upper-regions However the manufacturers do seem to be steering towards less of a gender gap between clone bodies, I remember when earlier female clones were so sexualized it made it hard for users to walk properly. Plus the breast reduction can only have improved combat efficiency (for both genders hehe)
If I remember correctly, the giant breasts & high-heels were a Gallente thing. Not that I'm complaining |
XANDER KAG
Red Star.
EoN.
206
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:41:00 -
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I'm having a hard time imagining a Pregnant clone or combat clones with working genitals. However I'm certain that with enough isk we could buy a body that could reproduce. Baby would be scary as **** when it grew up though. It came from a body that wasn't technically alive if it came from a clone... |
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