RydogV
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Posted - 2013.08.12 01:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:RydogV wrote:Easy fix. Make use of the equipment slots mandatory or suit is invalid. Then the CPU/PG is no longer a factor and the advantage of Assault base HP becomes more important.
The only ones who would disagree with this are the ones not using Logi as a support platform. Then you're focusing on one suit by giving them limitations. If this is the case, force assaults to carry an AR and or a sidearm, heavies to fit a heavy weapon and scouts to fit an uplink. I'm not an assault logi, but I tend to not fill in my 4th equipment slot on my suit if I don't have anything to put there.
Fine. Then if you have two slots then at least one needs to be filled. If you have three then two. And if you have four then three.
It is not about giving them limitations. It is about balance. So many complaints about Logi...how its unbalanced...how it is OP vs Assault when fitted outside the support role. The way things have been trending then the major push is going to be NERF, NERF, NERF. Taking away CPU/PG or High/Low slots will only hurt the ability of True Logi's to offer the proper support to their teams.
Locking in equipment slots is a much better alternative for the class. I mean if you are a Logi and you are not carrying equipment then why run a Logi suit. I get that CCP wanted to give players freedom, and I support that. But when my ability to do my job is being threatened by a forum witch hunt then I am willing to concede a little flexibility to save support capability.
Most of the complaints come from players who look at stats that affect performance like slots and power and cry fowl because it is MORE and actually can make a different if you are using the suit and not filling up the equipment. But what about those of us who use the suit the right way? So make equipment mandatory so they can go find something else to complain about and let me get back to doing what I have always done in this game. |
RydogV
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:47:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Bob Teller wrote:The diference is speed and stamina is beraly there . As I said earlier with 1 boitics mod (for you have like 39 free slots left) you can outrun an assault easily . Which is the case most of the time . And about "the balanced racials for assault" How is shield regen on a armor tank BALANCE for you ? You can't give CALDARI and AMARR (shield nad armor tankers) the same shield regen bonus and call this ballance - It is obvious that for one of the races it makes no sense whatsoever  . It is so messed up that it looks like they havent even played the game ONCE before introduce those racial bonuses . How do they justify things like this . And how do you justify yourself calling this balanced  Assault bonus benefit shield tanking more,logi bonus(+5hp sec) benefit armor tanking more,,,seems balance for me.The diference in speed is very important and the speed mods only increase run speed,not walk and strafe.
Op, you have to yield this point. a 1 meter per second movement speed is HUGE, and there is no way to counter that. As a min logi (who is the fastest) if I equip no armor (or laughable forescale plates) I can keep my full 5mps movement speed. But if I do this I am paper thin. Yes a logi can equip to outrun you, but I cannot equip to out run, our maneuver, out tank, and out gun you all at the same time.
Are you using a fitting tool? if so, throw up two real examples of fittings where a Logi can be fitted given max core skills to out perform on every level (stamina, speed, EHP, shield regen, proto weapon,) an Assault with equal core skills.
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It can't be done. Everyone 'thinks' Logi's can be the Jack-of-All-Trades....right up until the point they're in the fitting screen.
"It doesn't matter that base speed is slower"....until you are the one on the battlefield chugging along.
"It doesn't matter that the base HP is lower"....until you are trying to fit Shield, Armor and Equipment modules even with the extra CPU/PG.
"You have all those slots...more than Assault"....that can only be used to get us to where most Assaults already are in Speed, Stamina, Shield and Armor levels if we're lucky.
"Giving up a Sidearm slot (on most suits) isn't an even trade"...until you just ran out of ammo on a one-on-one with any class that has a sidearm.
"You don't have to use your equipment slots so you can save CPU/PG and fit as a better Assault than Assault...YOU'RE RIGHT, and this is the issue you should be QQing about. |