once collision is nerfed in 1.4 the only lavs that will even be worth anything are logi lavs and not for anything to do with their namesake LOGI that is an issue vehicles will be undergoing a reworking. i dunno what your trying to say about turrent rotation but i actually do use turret rotation enhancers i am quiet fond of them. allot of things are expensive fully specced lavs cost 200k on average cheap really same as a loaded proto suit

I've made a few threads about my ideas for changes to the LLAV and the SLAV here, if you'd like my input. Also this comment on possible chassis option.

Anyway, my ideas:

LLAV: Tad slower, change repairer to AoE armour repair (no shield repair, or at least give points for it), remove/option for removal of turret for 2 extra passengers (4 troops total with driver)

SLAV: Huge boost to turret damage (the idea is to be able to threaten other LAVS, but weak to AV/, tanks, etc), stock active scanner, huge base speed and maneuvering boost, bit more defences, price reduction or make it worth putting +150k isk into a paper car.

logi lav speed puts them out of the logi class and makes them impractical ina pc situation for healing when team firing is enabled that combined with they're terrible reppers makes them not really logi lavs at all but stonger attack lavs

regardless of what they do with collision the logi lav needs a speed nerf not a top speed but an acceleration i do not use speed modules at all on every vehicle except my blaster charybdis and the base speed and accel is absurdly high for a logi class vehicle meant for up close logi work and team support. the logi lav has the hp it has so it can take av fire while supporting the team with both logi's possible reinforcements and even vehicle based healing. it does not need the speed it currently has to accomplish this. and the repper is no where near sufficient to the task. if your arguing because you dont want lavs changed get over it. ccp is reworking vehicles and attempting to give us balance the will be nerfing collision which will put lavs ina weird place and then they will be reworking all vehicles. would you rather they have a few dozen cry threads, and their own resources (which have gotten us such great results in the past), or would you rather they have logical intelligent conversation on the forums with real player feedback too look at. i would like to see vehicles balanced for once i think the majority of the community agrees with me on the logi lav needing more logi to it and not needing the speed it has.

Why would I use a +80k isk minimum SLAV whose only only benefit is being slightly faster (but with less defenses) over my free Blood Raider? The SLAV needs to fill some niche over being an expensive taxi.

scout lav fast light to no weaponry

standard attack strong fast with attack abilities

logi lav slower tankier with repping abilities and team support

this is how the should be