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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.10 02:41:00 -
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Mass drivers good? Yeah they are. so?
AR are good? They are beast. So?
same for SMG's, Forge guns and scrambler-rifles....
But SO WHAT? they are doing what they are supposed to do. KILL.
What we need is a buff for the weapons that are not to the level of the good ones.
AKA,Flaylocks might need a little buff. Plasma cannon needs a LOT of buffs,breach SMG and weapons overall, Sniper rifle Head shot damage should ALWAYS be a 1HKo,Laser rifles need a sight and a little more damage bonus on their ''continuous fire perk'' etc...
So please CCP, ignore all the whining going around for once, and you'll see that when all weapons kill as they are intended the whining will be reduced.
DO NOT pay attention to people QQ about how they got killed by 4 MD shooting at him at the same time and he couldn't get away. (LOL you dont say).Or that dude that was standing still and got a forge gun to the face, etc...
Pay attention to the weapons that people are avoiding because they are just awful.
Beside weapons , Scouts and Heavies need a buff,something to help them be able to compete with medium frames, and the Commando Suit needs more base HP and PG-CPU.
AND PLEASE, do something about LAV's .
my 2 cents.
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:03:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:They won't stop. CCP devs only listen to QQ. They really mess everything they nerf. The mass driver has been nerfed more than any other gun in the game. Once nerfed so bad it wasn't even usable. Now they want it nerfed again so it only explodes at a specific distance. Ha okay, I believe for in fact that CCP won't stop their NERF HAMMER until EVERYTHING expect the ASSAULT RIFLE gets nerfed. That's why I won't fking buy anymore aurum because it's pointless to spec into anything other than the assault rifle. Why? It will turn into the fotm (even though it's not op) than get nerfed to the fking ground.
Thats what this thread is about? A request to stop the Nerf hammer : / |
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:40:00 -
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ladwar wrote:please show on the doll where the nerf hammer touched you 
-Scout suits
-Shotgun
-Nova knives
-Stamina mechanics
-Aim mechanics
and now im scared the Hammer is going for my Forge gun or even worse! SMG D: |
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:21:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:besides the ohk of sniper headshots and if you add armor to your buff list... maybe
tell me 1 decent FPS that a sniper rifle does not achieve a 1HKO for every headshot.
Im not a sniper but is not something easy to do, much less in dust where the sniper rifle is NOT the only weapon with excellent range.The least they could have is a reward for being accurate.
sorry about the armor. could you be more specific please? i played most my life as a scout and i have not knowledge on them nor their problems. |
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:42:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:Also this game is nothing like any other game. Why would I compare it to another game? Snipers need to swap to forge guns if they want ohk's although i dont think many suits can survive a Thale's headshot
even if a game aims to be different, the correct thing to do is to keep the features that players find useful when doing a game of the same genre . i think. |
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:50:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Text Grant wrote:Also this game is nothing like any other game. Why would I compare it to another game? Snipers need to swap to forge guns if they want ohk's although i dont think many suits can survive a Thale's headshot even if a game aims to be different, the correct thing to do is to keep the features that players find useful when doing a game of the same genre . i think. Id be okay with proto and up were OHK headshots guaranteed IF there was bullet travel time.
Its not a snipers problem if the enemy decided to bring a proto suit and misplaced himself in the battlefield.
Talk about easy mode.
Plus getting a head shot on an always moving enemy is pretty hard in this game where the sights are not very reliable.Now getting a headshot and NOT kill the enemy is just wrong.
Again i AM NOT a sniper. But its ridiculous , i mean i can just stand on a roof with a ADV Heavy suit and they need to shoot me at least 6-8 times before i EVEN consider hiding to regenerate LOL...
If you are wearing proto and dont want to get sniped , just dont go around running in open fields like you are freakn Kratos...
I mean, Its not like people get OWNED by snipers, I bet you 10 million isk that you get killed by LAV at least twice/ three times more than snipers.... |
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:03:00 -
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Text Grant wrote:That is true. But why shouldn't they have bullet travel time? All the games with OHK's have it. Also it will become the new FOTM if it gets this significant of a buff. I just feel that adding more skill to it will keep it off the FOTM list and save it from qq
Well. Maybe a little bullet time. Im afraid that if the mess the bullet time even with the 1HKO capacity on head shots they might end up simply nerfing the gun too much.you know how CCP overnerfs weapons.
I just dont want every single Sniper specin into Forge guns just because they can ''snipe'' better with it...
You might be right dude, but still. Its CCP's Nerfing style that scares me.... |
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Posted - 2013.08.10 23:08:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Just started using flux MD combo, I'm expecting hate mail soon but I think i'm gonna have the same response every time, "you think that's cheap? you haven't seen me with a forge gun :)" sorry but grenade launchers make **** go boom, not much u can do about that except find a way to fight back or run. people complain because they want to run straight forward and not evade. I was in a milita minmintar suit and someone started using a freedom mass driver on me... yo, i kept moving unpredictablly and backing away while putting fire on him with my scrambler rifle (hipfire, but still some type of pressure). when you he reloaded i started firing on him. once i was far enough it was easy pikins.these AR noobs just don't want to use tactics. they want an i win button
Pretty much that me friend.
I mean i have a lot of hate mail when i forge gun, but dude , forge gun gives you no options at CQ, much less when there are 2+ enemies. Thats why i mainly use SMG ....
Its a all about changing styles depending on the enemy. |
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Posted - 2013.08.11 01:47:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:-1 for the MD comment. +1 for each individual point you made other then the MD. Overall I really like and am able to say "***** nurfing the MD" if everything else would get worked on. If my weapons would kill then I wouldn't have to worry about sneaking up on an MD users, spraying him in the back of the head, and he just turning around and killing me instantly! Fix the heavies? YES! Those poor guys are at a bad spot and could use a hand. Fix the Scouts? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NUF SAID! As I said already, "Overall I really like" +1
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST  .
TYTY. No w about the MD.
The MD Splash damage is actually Laughable , even if the slaps damage radius is immense.
They need to score a direct hit in order to really damage you, That is unless you are a scout, they you are fd LOL.
But as you said , the problem is sometimes EVEN if you shoot first you get killed by them.
Well thats a problem with other weapons. It has happened to me with the HMG and A.Scram Rifle....
And yeah, you have to have perfect aim while they might spam, but that wont work everytime, live vs multiple enemies...
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Posted - 2013.08.11 02:26:00 -
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Arc-08 wrote:there are mainly 2 weapons in this game that are in need of serious love
1. Plasma Cannon
2. Burst AR
they are the two most underused and or underpowered weapons.
if there was a third it would be nova knifes, they are in need of a buff, but my corp master went 34/12 running just nova knifes (and like 4 grenade kills) so you can use nova knifes effectivly.
though imma go after your original post and say that forge guns are to over powered AGAINST DROPSHIPS, not against infantry or any of that other stuff, but the proto/adv ones are too effective against a dropship.
NO Forge guns are OK. Dropships need love. |
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Posted - 2013.08.11 04:22:00 -
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ALPHA DECRIPTER wrote:I die by FG from time to time and considering it a big ball of death, well... I think it's fair. The exception would probably be the assault variant.... maybe. KING CHECKMATE wrote:The MD Splash damage is actually Laughable , even if the splash damage radius is immense.
They need to score a direct hit in order to really damage you, That is unless you are a scout, they you are fd LOL.
lol Dude! I AM a scout XD
`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST .
HAHAHA ME 2 ! I play Scout and Heavy (i only use heavy if the enemy is abusing Vehicles)
My Mimja scout has 300 total HP ,so you know that any advanced/proto Mass driver can 1-2 shot ko me.
Im gonna be honest ,unless the MD user SEES me first, i usually win with my main, ishi SMG. (if hes alone that is >..>)
Then Again, Explosives ARE the way to deal with scouts since i can almost DODGE TAc AR and scram rifles shots at mid range (10.4 sprint speed)
BTW Updated the Post. BURST/BRC AR and plasma need love too. Agreed. |
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Posted - 2013.08.11 18:57:00 -
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''while I agree you make a lot of sense I cant help but lol at the fact youre telling CCP not to nerf things and end with a request to nerf LAVs...just lol at that....
p.s. skill into AV and LAV are no longer trouble... I promise what they intend to already do to LAVs is gonna break them not balance them''
Well , they are not ''balanced'' right now.
Is a fact that beteewn mobility, High HP and damage resistance LAV's are still the ultimate Vehicle in this game. (Able to whistand a BREACH FORGE GUN plus AV grenade in less than 4 seconds...)
And everybody except murder taxi drivers agree.
There by, this is a general problem that must be issued, because the opinion is so biased that the point proves itself.
And my post is about not nerfing WEAPONS, thats why i put the other stuff under, you know, OTHER stuff XD
If you read my posts you'll see im an avid Vehicle hater XD , but good for you for noticing ....
@ Buster Friently
Buster , AR's are always gonna be the main weapon of choice because it serves well in different situations,while other are designed to excel in specific areas.
It is , and it will always be ''carried to often''. In every FPS.
What i think they need to do is to buff every weapon to AR level.
At the moment MASS DRIVERS are good BECAUSE of this. The Fight MD vs AR is pretty close and VERY dependant on the area they are being fought in.
Snipers and FGs dominate Ranged Battles as it should be, but fare poorly in CQ. AS IT SHOULD BE.(Same goes for TAC AR)
This kind of balance is what we need. And to be honest, i prefer to see a lot of powerful weapons , even if they end up being OP, than a LOT of useles ones... |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 22:08:00 -
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-I think The Burst AR needs to be adjusted to at least 5 Bullets per ''burst''. This way it will be compared to the Old Burst , which i agree and was beast (it was the only AR i've ever liked ) , but with 2 less bullets per burst and a little more damage.
-The Breach AR is actually decent, the problem is the RoF is just WAY too low. compared tho high RoF of the AR, not to mention the TAC Ar's and Burst, the breach RoF is way to low and the damage isnt just enough.
Or either more damage (To be able to Rival The TAC R1 Spam) or a little more RoF.
-On Plasma C:I think the best thing to do with the Plasma cannon ( after playing for a while with it, even making an alt to main it), is to GREATLY reduce the reload time. Also the projectile itself should be Faster. As it is, unless a vehicle is STILL is almost impossible to hit something 50mts or more. (LAV are impossible straight out XD).Also that weird Arc thing the plasma cannon has should be distance dependent. The first 100 Mts it should t exist, after 150-200 mts then the gravity should activate there by giving the projectile that arc effect... IMO that is. XD |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 03:57:00 -
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Shameless bump for the post to be next to the ''QQ nerf this nerf that'' posts.... |
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