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Tebu Gan wrote:

CaveCav wrote:

Ok so here I am again poking you guys, what do you think about active sinks?

In particular for a railgun fit operating between 40 and 150 meters?
I like having the capability to push with the team and I cannot always recall my tank and switch to a blaster because of blueberries Ugh

so I always feel like I'm not putting down enough shots due to heat buildup, should I use an heat sink?
Active or passive?
If I have an active heatsink and I overheat can I activate it to cooldown faster, or does it only work reducing heat buildup between shots?

And also: could someone breakdown the various turret tipes (blaster, rail, missile)?
What is the difference between standard, scattered, compressed, etc... for hybrid turrets?
What is the difference between standard, accelerated and fragmentation for missile turrets?
Is there a single Rail/Blaster/Missile that is better and I should always use?

Finally: Enforcer tanks?

I know it's a lot of questions but I really want to learn Big smile

Good questions!

For a rail gun, yes you will want a heatsink. In my earlier days of tanking I used passives, but now I always use an active on my rail tank.

What it does is reduce the heat cost of each shot by the % amount described in the description. So for an active heatsink you will want to activate it before firing.

The way your hybrids work:
Standard is just that, your standard nothing special turret

Scattered I think has better tracking speed, turret turns faster ( never ever use myself)

Compressed is your high damage output version, but typically produce a lot of extra heat, in the case of railguns they also have a charge time of 2.2 vs the standards 1.8. Check the descriptions, namely the attributes.

For missiles:
Frag missiles have extra explosive radius, 4.0 compared to standard and accelerated of 3.0 good for killing infantry but less damage overall.

Standard are just that, standard missiles

Accelerated are higher accuracy at range missiles, less spread. Damage is the same as standard.

Cycled missiles shot missiles in 3 shot bursts of 3 missiles or something like that( not my favorate) and the explsoive radius is 1.8, not good for shoot infantry.

And enforcers, are crap in my opinion, namely because of the price tag associated with them. 1.2 mil for one, and your standard tank is 200k. And the bonus really isn't great, but the worst part it takes like 2 mill sp just to get the enforcer skill to level 5.

The shield version and armor version both have an extra low slot(shields) and a high slot (armor). On the shield version you could probably equip an extra pg booster and make a better fit overall, but the armor versions slot is pretty much useless. I myself haven't bother with them, yet. Working on raising the skill to do some testing, but way I understand it, 'AV comes out of the woodwork to kill an enforcers. I know in game I always focus hard and heavy on them. Killing one gives you a bit of extra income!


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ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1250	Posted - 2013.08.24 22:27:00 - [1] - Quote blaster thread for vehicles TL;DR blasters= close in dps compressed=junk, never ever fit them as they are out classed by every other blaster even standard. standard=cheapest scatter=highest close-in DPS stabilized=best blaster at 60m+ but high fitting cost. missiles= effective on armor and works best tilted down aiming up. frag=infantry cycle= installations accelerated= AV/ range(no spread) standard= cheapest. rails=long range standard=basic, med heat med damage(25) middle ground and cheapest. compress=dps, high damage high heat(35) best for vehicle sniping regulated=longer battles, med damage lowest heat (20) best for infantry sniping
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1250	Posted - 2013.08.24 22:34:00 - [2] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: CaveCav wrote: Ok so here I am again poking you guys, what do you think about active sinks? In particular for a railgun fit operating between 40 and 150 meters? I like having the capability to push with the team and I cannot always recall my tank and switch to a blaster because of blueberries so I always feel like I'm not putting down enough shots due to heat buildup, should I use an heat sink? Active or passive? If I have an active heatsink and I overheat can I activate it to cooldown faster, or does it only work reducing heat buildup between shots? And also: could someone breakdown the various turret tipes (blaster, rail, missile)? What is the difference between standard, scattered, compressed, etc... for hybrid turrets? What is the difference between standard, accelerated and fragmentation for missile turrets? Is there a single Rail/Blaster/Missile that is better and I should always use? Finally: Enforcer tanks? I know it's a lot of questions but I really want to learn Good questions! For a rail gun, yes you will want a heatsink. In my earlier days of tanking I used passives, but now I always use an active on my rail tank. What it does is reduce the heat cost of each shot by the % amount described in the description. So for an active heatsink you will want to activate it before firing. The way your hybrids work: Standard is just that, your standard nothing special turret Scattered I think has better tracking speed, turret turns faster ( never ever use myself) Compressed is your high damage output version, but typically produce a lot of extra heat, in the case of railguns they also have a charge time of 2.2 vs the standards 1.8. Check the descriptions, namely the attributes. For missiles: Frag missiles have extra explosive radius, 4.0 compared to standard and accelerated of 3.0 good for killing infantry but less damage overall. Standard are just that, standard missiles Accelerated are higher accuracy at range missiles, less spread. Damage is the same as standard. Cycled missiles shot missiles in 3 shot bursts of 3 missiles or something like that( not my favorate) and the explsoive radius is 1.8, not good for shoot infantry. And enforcers, are crap in my opinion, namely because of the price tag associated with them. 1.2 mil for one, and your standard tank is 200k. And the bonus really isn't great, but the worst part it takes like 2 mill sp just to get the enforcer skill to level 5. The shield version and armor version both have an extra low slot(shields) and a high slot (armor). On the shield version you could probably equip an extra pg booster and make a better fit overall, but the armor versions slot is pretty much useless. I myself haven't bother with them, yet. Working on raising the skill to do some testing, but way I understand it, 'AV comes out of the woodwork to kill an enforcers. I know in game I always focus hard and heavy on them. Killing one gives you a bit of extra income! i have posted about turret use in my above post. scattered btw is lower tracking speed and large cycled just fire .3 seconds faster then standard. compressed blaster should never be used because their high hit but lower RoF puts them at the same DPS as standard blasters but just w/ higher heat build up and there is no way to OHK with blasters. finally enforces are overpriced and have a speed reduction of 32% base on top of the lower stats. the rest you can read about them in game.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1308	Posted - 2013.08.25 16:58:00 - [3] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: ladwar wrote: i have posted about turret use in my above post. scattered btw is lower tracking speed and large cycled just fire .3 seconds faster then standard. compressed blaster should never be used because their high hit but lower RoF puts them at the same DPS as standard blasters but just w/ higher heat build up and there is no way to OHK with blasters. finally enforces are overpriced and have a speed reduction of 32% base on top of the lower stats. the rest you can read about them in game. Thanks for the info man, my turret info was just off the top of my head. I thought maybe the cycled would be useful for anti-vehicle engagements, given the burst which might in turn give you tighter spread. I never use them anyways! And do all enforcers have the speed reduction? I can see the armor version having a speed nerf but 32% less on a shield enforcer is just freakin insane! Put a reference for turret info and enforcer info to your post here. Thanks man. cycled have the same spread as frag(and speed) so its only really useful on non-moving targets or otherwise installations, if a an armor tank makes himself into an installation then he'll feel the pain. i spend a fair amount in tanks so i have most of the numbers in my head anyways. yes both enforcers have the same speed nerf. i haven't made an in depth thread on enforces mostly as they are not a viable way to use tanks even in PC.