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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:37:00 -
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So let me just start off with some basic ideas about the Academy.
I believe starting SP should begin at 1,000,000.
Get out of the Academy at 15,000 WP.
Option to leave whenever you want.
Option to join whenever you want, unless you have already went over your 15,000 WP limit. Some new players may find fighting with better players to much of a challenge. So they may want to go back to the academy if they leave to earlier.
1,000,000 SP earned for graduating the academy. along with 5,000,000 million ISK. This would allow new players to invest some SP and afford some skill books.
Tutorial ideas for new players.
Skill points, tell new players what SP is for, how to use it, what it is good to be spent on, like suits and core skills.
Teach players how to use every weapon. Every weapon we get a shooting range. Tell players what to shoot at, how to shoot.
Then new players get put into a battle. (This is where it gets detailed.)
A new game is spawned up, (A skirmish) Player gets told about everything that is on the first screen (Spawn screen)
Then they will get told to spawn MCC. Told to activate Inertia dampening when they are falling. Then they are instructed to head to an objective. They may die on there way there and then have to repeat these actions, because this is a real game. (By this part they would have already done the shooting range and stuff so they have a chance to kill the other player)
They are told to head to a neutral objective and hack it. They hack it and are told how to win this game mode.
Then the same types of things happens for the other game modes, but of course it is usually just how to play it and such.
The gun range would be open to all players at any time to try out weapons of any level. Also vehicles to drive and to practice shooting.
I could make this a lot more detailed but most people understand what i mean.
TL;DR starting SP should begin at 1,000,000. Get out of the Academy at 15,000 WP. Option to leave whenever you want. Option to join whenever you want, unless you have already went over your 15,000 WP limit. 1,000,000 SP earned for graduating the academy. along with 5,000,000 million ISK. Detailed tutorial. |
Tiny Pineapple
Army of 420's Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:54:00 -
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I like this idea but starting with 1 million SP and then getting another million is just too much. I would keep the starting SP the same and the reward for leaving the academy should be 250K SP.
The firing range idea is pretty good, I don't have to make an alt to try out a weapon. |
Bittersteel the Bastard
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:56:00 -
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Uh give them 750k starting SP then 500k once they graduate and an optional skill respec (the only one they get) |
Nahaalek ClovenShield
Pure Innocence. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:43:00 -
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Getting more base SP will never happen same as getting bonus SP out of academy. Doing this will cut into their precious booster sales, and honestly at this point they have made it very clear boosters and aur are all they care about. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
937
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:30:00 -
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Nahaalek ClovenShield wrote:Getting more base SP will never happen same as getting bonus SP out of academy. Doing this will cut into their precious booster sales, and honestly at this point they have made it very clear boosters and aur are all they care about. 2 million sp is not enough for even 3 half decent skills to level 5.
People will always buy boosters. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
937
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:32:00 -
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Base at 1,000,000 than 250,000 for graduating the academy seems balanced to me if we have to change it. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
478
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:35:00 -
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Gun range? Sounds like somebody played a completed game once.
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
939
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:39:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Gun range? Sounds like somebody played a completed game once.
theres other popular FPS games that don't have a practice range.
But we have a lot of guns, i think this would be helpful. You could time how long it takes to kill someone, set up a bot with however much health you want.
Test grenades. See weapon effectiveness.
So many extra things could be seen if we had a gun range |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:39:00 -
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tutorial need 1+ keep shoving that in their face. they eventually have to figure that out. brick wall of words does not work!. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
939
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:44:00 -
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ladwar wrote:tutorial need 1+ keep shoving that in their face. they eventually have to figure that out. brick wall of words does not work!. Well i did make a brick wall but ya. |
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21yrOld Knight
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:48:00 -
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I know this sounds greedy but if they get more starting sp i would like to have that extra sp also added to my account even if I have over 9 million in sp. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:51:00 -
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+1, we need a tutorial and better academy. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
939
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:51:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:I know this sounds greedy but if they get more starting sp i would like to have that extra sp also added to my account even if I have over 9 million in sp. In my opinion that is not right. You already know how to play and such. New players need more SP |
Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
175
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:51:00 -
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We don't need a gun range; we need more videos showcasing weaponry.
Player content, go! |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
939
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:56:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:We don't need a gun range; we need more videos showcasing weaponry.
Player content, go! Both? |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:02:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:ladwar wrote:tutorial need 1+ keep shoving that in their face. they eventually have to figure that out. brick wall of words does not work!. Well i did make a brick wall but ya. for a forum not really... CCP tutorial is a wall of words just thrown at players and most players won't read all of it. i only read it the first i played because i played eve and know some eve corps and have a ton of friends that play eve still. btw not a fan of eve. that wall of words is helpful for eve to dust players but no one else and scares people away when they have to read a book before playing. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:26:00 -
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ladwar wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:ladwar wrote:tutorial need 1+ keep shoving that in their face. they eventually have to figure that out. brick wall of words does not work!. Well i did make a brick wall but ya. for a forum not really... CCP tutorial is a wall of words just thrown at players and most players won't read all of it. i only read it the first i played because i played eve and know some eve corps and have a ton of friends that play eve still. btw not a fan of eve. that wall of words is helpful for eve to dust players but no one else and scares people away when they have to read a book before playing. Well ya i agree. Having both the options is nice though |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:41:00 -
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This game needs an original Deus Ex style shooting range as part of the tutorial.
I'm not sure if you guy recall, but they gave you a weapon, let you use it with no skill points in it, then they gave you the same weapon maxed out so you can see the difference. It'd give the new players a sense of what they're up against and what they'll eventually have. |
N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
940
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:13:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:This game needs an original Deus Ex style shooting range as part of the tutorial.
I'm not sure if you guy recall, but they gave you a weapon, let you use it with no skill points in it, then they gave you the same weapon maxed out so you can see the difference. It'd give the new players a sense of what they're up against and what they'll eventually have. good idea. |
Jungian
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
148
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Posted - 2013.08.09 21:50:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:This game needs an original Deus Ex style shooting range as part of the tutorial.
I'm not sure if you guy recall, but they gave you a weapon, let you use it with no skill points in it, then they gave you the same weapon maxed out so you can see the difference. It'd give the new players a sense of what they're up against and what they'll eventually have.
+1 And throw in a virtual training area while at it. |
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
940
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:31:00 -
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Anything to help new players get better. |
Cryius Li-Moody
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.09 22:38:00 -
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hey a tip.. make an alt and get a HAV you'll pub stomp all the new guys, to bad after that match you'll have to make a new one to get back in the academy but hey it is fun. on real note academy does not teach new players how to deal with any vehicle |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
479
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Posted - 2013.08.09 23:04:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Rynoceros wrote:Gun range? Sounds like somebody played a completed game once.
theres other popular FPS games that don't have a practice range. But we have a lot of guns, i think this would be helpful. You could time how long it takes to kill someone, set up a bot with however much health you want. Test grenades. See weapon effectiveness. So many extra things could be seen if we had a gun range
But they do have PVE and accurate weapon stats relayed to players, removing some of the guesswork that is apparently up to us, the playerbase.
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