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Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.08.09 08:28:00 -
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(That's my alt who made that thread)
You are correct sir, armor tanking is underpowered, Caldari are overpowered compared to other suits and shield delay is broken.
However, Armor vs Shields is being looked at and CCP Wolfman is already testing new numbers for armor plates.
I also told him how the Gallente suit itself is the weakest of the four medium frame suits, though he didn't reply.
This is all from IRC. |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.08.09 08:33:00 -
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Jade Hasegawa wrote:Jack McReady wrote:I see some people cannot read and hung up on the grenade part....
let me repeat this slowly for you: shields recharge while you get hit because the recharge delay is not working properly
what about "is not working properly" that you dont understand. I find it amusing how people give me "advice" to counter a bug to save their crutches. Mine works normaly, it dont regen when im getting hit and I run caldari assualt armour
Video or it didn't happen.
This was tested a thousand times, and your regeneration starts even after your just got hit.
Cat Merc |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:22:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Flux grenades are a hard counter to shields at the moment. There is also a lesser known hard counter: The Plasma Cannon. The Plasma cannon will insta-gib any regulated caldari suit with its splash. It'll drop duel-tanked caldari suits into about half armor, though.
Normal grenades are a hard counter against armor, only difference being that they insta gib you, while Flux only drops your shields >_>
To put it into prespective: The Core Locus Grenade does 925 armor damage.
Let that sink in. |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:28:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Jack McReady wrote:ok, I just started to play a bit of dust again after a break and after a few matches I saw that 1. all the pros run in caldari suits spamming core grenades... 2. nice, those grenades one shot my armor tanked proto suit with proto tank mods 3. and because that is not enough advantage, an awesome BUG gives them a crutch too cause shields recharge during a gunfight even when they are hit. shield recharge delay obviously does not always work properly, known for 2 months and still not fixed https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88305&find=unreadhow is someone supposed to win against that? a caldari suit not only has huge shield pool and faster movement speed (lolstrafe) than any armor tanked suit, the shields also recharge at massive amounts per second during a gunfight due to a bug giving them higher durability than intendend... and when the caldari suits gets low you simply use your superiour movement and hide behind cover, the armor tanked suit is not going to catch up anyway. now imagine a new player comes right from the acadamy (now even after 400 wp) and gets thrown into the pool with all those caldari proto suits...  *edit* altered title and text slightly to make the points clear. Maybe you should ask for permission from your leaders before you start making stupid posts. 1. Caldari is no longer the master race suit. 2. I know a number of players who make armour tanking viable 3. You have absolutely no idea about what you're talking about.
1. So that explains why 10 out of 16 suits are Caldari in a PC match? (Those 6 include heavies and scouts, that don't have Caldari variants)
2. Yeah, with extreme amounts of effort.
Oh and all that goes down the sink with a single core locus grenade, even an assault with 4x complex plates dies to one of those.
3. He has, it's true that this bug exists. |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:45:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Actually what you're experiencing here, imo, is "just" lag and bad hit detection. happens the same thing if you shield tank with amarr or minmatar. I know it's annoying but i gotta say it once again : "don't hate the player hate the game". This game's got too many HP, none would ever notice this "lag" or bad hit detection if the game actually permit a max of 200-300 HP.
It's not lag, go test it with your friend.
Hit him.
Wait 4 seconds.
Shoot him again.
How long does it take for his shields to start recharging? |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:05:00 -
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Vickers S Grunt wrote:pfft i can make a logi with 796 armor and 220 regen 
And move slower than a bag of hammers. |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:12:00 -
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Oh and BTW, this is NOT game breaking.
Just annoying. |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:11:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Quick question: How do you know this wasn't intended?
Is there anywhere in the game where it states that shields recharge delay should be reset every time you take damage?
Its not game breaking, I kill shield tankers all of the time with it, and I die as a shield tanker all of the time with it.
Because it didn't happen before Uprising.
It was also confirmed to be a defect by CCP. |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:27:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Good work Jack!
Next time you should think before your post. What happens next is entirely up to you. Everytime you say something stupid, offensive, and just straight up QQ. I am going to attack one of your districts and sieze it. If Dust Uni owns zero land then just makes you irelivent in my eyes and feedback void
I actually agree to a point.
He made it seem like the bug is a dramatic advantage to shields.
While it's just an annoyance. |
Catina Mercia
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:20:00 -
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HARDFACTS DUSTTRUTH wrote:Jack McReady wrote:ok, I just started to play a bit of dust again after a break and after a few matches I saw that 1. all the pros run in caldari suits spamming core grenades... 2. nice, those grenades one shot my armor tanked proto suit with proto tank mods 3. and because that is not enough advantage, an awesome BUG gives them a crutch too cause shields recharge during a gunfight even when they are hit. shield recharge delay obviously does not always work properly, known for 2 months and still not fixed https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88305&find=unreadhow is someone supposed to win against that? a caldari suit not only has huge shield pool and faster movement speed (lolstrafe) than any armor tanked suit, the shields also recharge at massive amounts per second during a gunfight due to a bug giving them higher durability than intendend... and when the caldari suits gets low you simply use your superiour movement and hide behind cover, the armor tanked suit is not going to catch up anyway. now imagine a new player comes right from the acadamy (now even after 400 wp) and gets thrown into the pool with all those caldari proto suits... *edit* altered title and text slightly to make the points clear. An armor suit in the right hands can take out a Caldari suit with ease. Armor can have loads more hit points and stack damage mods, slap a flux on the suit and there you have it. DEAD caldari. Learn how to counter the things before you come screaming nerf noob. If a caldari suit kills you first toe to toe its because you suck and need to learn how to aim.
This has been debunked countless of times.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87752
This thread crushes every single argument you could make.
Ever. |
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