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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.09 06:39:00 -
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It's too low. At FG Operation 5 the charge time of the assault Forge Gun gets as low as 1.8 seconds. This makes the weapon easy spammable. Not holding the charge is not enough drawback to make it balanced since shots can be fired so quickly. The gun can also be used effectively at CQC, something Forge Guns are supposed to be weak at.
There's absolutely no reason to use the other variants of the Forge Gun. The assault variant with its high DPS can destroy vehicles more easily than the breach variant, a weapon that is intended role is to be AV.
Aiming and trying to line up your shot is no issue with the assault Forge Gun. For example lets say you tried to kill the enemy, but missed. No worries because with the fast charge time you can try again and let splash damage do its job. Didn't kill him? 2 seconds for another splash bomb and done. Basic Forge Gun cannot do the same tactic because of its slow charge time, so with this one you really want to make that shot count. Miss? Most likely you'll lose your target. The vanilla Forge Gun = balanced.
I won't talk about tanks because they're obviously imbalanced vs any type of AV. But yeah basically this gun obliterates the most powerful tanks in less than 10 seconds. I don't see any breach Forge Guns doing this, because once the tank gets hit the charge time is so slow it gives the tank enough time to take cover. Breach Forge Guns = balanced once vehicles get reworked.
So basically that. Increase charge time or reduce the charge time bonus from FG Operation to 2-3% charge time reduction per level. The assault Forge Gun should also have lower damage than the vanilla variant, since it has less charge time.
I'll leave this video of DS the drunk heavy so that you can see how over-powered the assault Forge Gun is.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.09 07:36:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:There are reasons to use the other types of Forge guns.
Use the breach for heavy damage, use the standard for mobility with the ability to conserve ammo, use the assault to asault things.
Don't be so naive. Please see above post by ladwar. I invite you to play some ambush and domination matches you'll see a lot of Ishokune Assault Forge Guns. For AV, AI, everything. And please don't say it's anti-matter because it's not. It's a small railgun doing way too much damage.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.09 07:39:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:Piercing Serenity wrote:Do not increase the charge time on the AFG. If you need to chase a vehicle down, you need the speed. If your aim sucks, use the standard version. You are really blowing the "spamability" of this weapon way out of proportion This is his/her 10th thread about it....
Those were for discussing things with you guys. CCP remains silent so now **** got serious and I'm doing my proper feedback to get their attention.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.09 07:58:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:There are reasons to use the other types of Forge guns.
Use the breach for heavy damage, use the standard for mobility with the ability to conserve ammo, use the assault to asault things. Don't be so naive. Please see above post by ladwar. I invite you to play some ambush and domination matches you'll see a lot of Ishokune Assault Forge Guns. For AV, AI, everything. And please don't say it's anti-matter because it's not. It's a small railgun doing way too much damage. -XOXO Assault Forge Guns are meant to assault things. If people are getting good enough to use them for everything, why can't you? And yes, it is a small rail gun. And I only play skirmish because that's where it's at. Stll see plenty of AFG's and I have no problem ganking them back from their perches. And it is anti material otherwise it wouldn't be free fire.
How did I know you'd only play skirmish...hm. Anyway you should try different game types so that you can get a better view of how things work in Dust. A good example is that in skirmish I can barely get kills with my LAV, while in ambush I easily go +15 kills running people over. Snipers get good scores in skirmish, while ambush they have trouble having a place to camp. Assault FGs are good in all the game types, but you'll see +5 heavies using these in domination. More and more people will get into this new FOTM you'll see.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.11 15:39:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:Vicious Minotaur wrote:I'd be fine with a damage nerf in lieu of a charge-time nerf (provided one shot still one-shots dropsuits on a direct hit, and can still deter vehicles). As it stands, I have basically no reason to use any other forge gun variant. The Assault forge gun is the be-all and end-all of Av AND Ai. How often do you see a breach? Or the 9K330/Kaalakiota?
The Ishukone, and even the DAU-5/A make all the other forge guns pretty much obsolete.
And, before anybody asks, I do use the forge gun (while running on the ground exclusively). I have an entire character pretty much dedicated to it. I wouldn't say that the other variants are obsolete. I rock the adv breach forge when I know an enemy tank is going to be passing me, so I hide then bunny hop out behind them to hit them in the sweet spot. And I use the 9k330 in place of the DAU from time to time when I want to be able to choose my shots more carefully. lies, dirty dirty lies!! assault FG or GTFO 
Yup.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:14:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:Nice to see your daily anti-forge gun thread. Thanks for the shout out. I hope it helped my fellow forgers kill crybabies like you.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.22 04:27:00 -
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For AV and for everything you'll prefer the assault FG, because the other variants give no advantage over the assault. It's better at AV and anti infantry than any weapon in game.
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FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.22 05:11:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:For AV and for everything you'll prefer the assault FG, because the other variants give no advantage over the assault. It's better at AV and anti infantry than any weapon in game.
-XOXO lemme guess, you respeced CAL LOGI with AR in Uprising
lol no. I am a heavy who made the stupid decision of going sentinel with HMG with prof. 5 Just recently I began using Forge Guns and oh lol lol lol what a stupid decision I made speccing in HMGs. This thing is awesome!!!!
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