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Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 310	Posted - 2013.08.09 05:06:00 - [1] - Quote mmm?
Galm Fae Guardian Solutions 37	Posted - 2013.08.09 08:03:00 - [2] - Quote Yes. Depending on what generation you are, they can be quite horrible.
Daedric Lothar Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 1305	Posted - 2013.08.09 11:08:00 - [3] - Quote Get off my RP board troll.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 369	Posted - 2013.08.10 15:46:00 - [4] - Quote That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2428	Posted - 2013.08.10 16:01:00 - [5] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. A child's voice echoed in the darkness of his thoughts. "Dad, when we die - is it like dreaming for a really long time?" As they approach the scorched wasteland that had been ravaged by countless skirmishes in an overarching war, the soft scent of Amarrian Wheat filled his nostrils; though he couldn't place it. At first he considered something was awry with his implants, or perhaps the filtration system of his suit. The smell was soon overlapped as his other senses took over - the pattering of air-burst weaponry firing off all around. He glanced to his comrades, curious as to whether they too had felt the tinge of anxiety that welled in his stomach. Much to his dismay they were silent and motionless. Each stared with an eerily calm demeanor at one another through the lit view screen of their helmets. Consideration toward the plausibility that maybe, just maybe, he wasn't who he thought he was. A decade ago he was a simple man who was providing for his family but... Who were they, really? He could barely recall the faces of his loved ones, shrouded in a haze of his own amnesia that came from time - not disorder. If he could not remember his family than perhaps he could remember why he fought but alas he could not. Was it for currency? Was it for freedom or liberty? Was it for spiritual conquest or perhaps... Something else? The door opened and his comrades rushed away at the very instant the vehicle came to a grinding, whirring halt. Small arms lit the chassis and several of his friends fell... But were they his friends..? His mind, clouded with confusion was soon met with overwhelming pain as he found himself staring at the sky and rolling his head side-wards to display the grim sight of his lower half beside him before all was dark... ... and awoken again to row after row, column after column of his brothers. All looking exactly alike, all exactly like him. He glanced to his hands with narrowed eyes and thought to himself: "Dad, when we die - is it like dreaming for a really long time?" "No."
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 536	Posted - 2013.08.10 18:32:00 - [6] - Quote Scouts routinely dream, but their dreams are underpowered.
steadyhand amarr Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1056	Posted - 2013.08.10 22:24:00 - [7] - Quote i always treat it as immortals having an agreed cease fire time where we can all check are implants lol
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 324	Posted - 2013.08.10 22:26:00 - [8] - Quote I think it's cool to live forever, then a curse for fighting all the time.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 225	Posted - 2013.08.11 15:04:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. This reminds me of a question we had in corp chat a while ago: If a female merc wants an abortion. Does she just kill herself? I think this is a very important question about Eve lore which should be answered.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2450	Posted - 2013.08.11 19:58:00 - [10] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. This reminds me of a question we had in corp chat a while ago: If a female merc wants an abortion. Does she just kill herself? I think this is a very important question about Eve lore which should be answered. Lol - Pro-Life mercs would be the funniest **** ever.

Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 325	Posted - 2013.08.12 08:53:00 - [11] - Quote Do clones breed and make more clones? Are they breeding during downtime? I think so.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 1	Posted - 2013.10.16 21:23:00 - [12] - Quote They are probably all different people who agreed to become a clone soldier, once they were set-up by having the tech. & etc. put in & on they're 1st body then were deployed off into battle then once they are killed they're conciousness is sent to a new clone body that doesn't look like them, basically a default body, to return to battle in & from their they constantly go to default premade clone bodies but they are still themself. Or they leave they're 1st real body in they're quarters, switch to a default premade clone body then go into battle then use default bodies till battle over then switch back to they're 1st body. (They can switch bodies possibly in The War Room prior to deployment.) Or they have alow of custom made bodies of themselves and use the custom ones outside battle and the default bodies in battle. But regardless they are themself. As for dreams if they're in either body then they should be able to dream, dreams are afterall natural so long as you have a brain & body you probably dream.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance 614	Posted - 2013.10.17 07:52:00 - [13] - Quote Vinsarrow wrote: They are probably all different people who agreed to become a clone soldier, once they were set-up by having the tech. & etc. put in & on they're 1st body then were deployed off into battle then once they are killed they're conciousness is sent to a new clone body that doesn't look like them, basically a default body, to return to battle in & from their they constantly go to default premade clone bodies but they are still themself. Or they leave they're 1st real body in they're quarters, switch to a default premade clone body then go into battle then use default bodies till battle over then switch back to they're 1st body. (They can switch bodies possibly in The War Room prior to deployment.) Or they have alow of custom made bodies of themselves and use the custom ones outside battle and the default bodies in battle. But regardless they are themself. As for dreams if they're in either body then they should be able to dream, dreams are afterall natural so long as you have a brain & body you probably dream. I wonder if they dream about fighting since that's all they see. It would be cool to show us in a clone tank then when we are called to action we become alive.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance 614	Posted - 2013.10.17 07:53:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. Play with them, it's like roleplaying. I'm a clone, I am the clone. Niuvo
Zero Roamero NaphBlade 15	Posted - 2013.10.17 15:43:00 - [15] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Get off my RP board troll. I don't think he was trolling...........
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3310	Posted - 2013.10.18 03:32:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. Or If you are Amarrian your faith armours you and It doesn't matter.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 3031	Posted - 2013.10.22 17:42:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. Or If you are Amarrian your faith armours you and It doesn't matter. Or you might be viewed as an abomination to many of the Faithful and shunned by your peers as some kind of soulless monster. Or maybe you're seen as a necessary evil, one that would sacrifice themselves to protect the Faithful and the innocent from the horrors of war and violence. And to others you might be seen as divine intervention, an Angel of death sent to enact the reclaiming and bring about the destiny of the Empire. Oh boy, the Amarrians have all sorts of wonderful things to play with by themselves. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1267	Posted - 2013.10.22 17:50:00 - [18] - Quote Amarrians plays with themselves?!? I knew it!!
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1553	Posted - 2013.10.22 22:01:00 - [19] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Amarrians plays with themselves?!? I knew it!! At least as a Matari I can 'run solo' all I want
DaLastProtoTypeWarHero IIIOMENS BAD SANTA'S SCHOOL 4 SCOUNDRELS 3	Posted - 2013.10.27 02:19:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. my clone does indeed dream this is the dream my clone had last night my clones dream my dream part 2 pt 2

Heinz Doofenshertz BetaMax. 572	Posted - 2013.10.29 04:42:00 - [21] - Quote Logibro knows of what I dream. Dust514 Stats, Have you updated today? I do maths, and sit in a corner.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure 42	Posted - 2013.10.31 03:11:00 - [22] - Quote inception....
VAHZZ Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2013.11.02 06:58:00 - [23] - Quote My clone dreams of chimichangas...of which he will never have and an intense burning desire to take of his suit, and see his own face. My clone is very deep...and crazy...and hungry. Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 697	Posted - 2013.11.02 12:44:00 - [24] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: My clone dreams of chimichangas...of which he will never have and an intense burning desire to take of his suit, and see his own face. My clone is very deep...and crazy...and hungry. nice signature. where is it from?
VAHZZ Villore Sec Ops 3	Posted - 2013.11.02 22:40:00 - [25] - Quote Niuvo wrote: VAHZZ wrote: My clone dreams of chimichangas...of which he will never have and an intense burning desire to take of his suit, and see his own face. My clone is very deep...and crazy...and hungry. nice signature. where is it from? Sun Tzu, a chinese war general said that,"...Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate." It is basically psychological warefare. On Topic - Our clones should be able to sleep in later updates, thereby they could actually dream...of how awesome their real selves are..or how crazy i am. Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness.
Kamil-13-PL DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 4	Posted - 2013.11.03 20:04:00 - [26] - Quote on the point of clones are the dust clones all clones of 1 guy like the clones from star wars or are they clones of themselves?
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 64	Posted - 2013.11.06 08:25:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. Hey, CCP Logibro, the real question is, do clones dream of the celebrities that mere mortals dream of? Or are those mortals that other mortals dream of the same as the rest? That is, lesser beings. I am the Horseless Headsman. Director and COO of We Who Walk Alone
Nyx Linx Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2013.11.06 12:19:00 - [28] - Quote My other clone has died 10,000 times. No joke.
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 5	Posted - 2013.11.10 06:18:00 - [29] - Quote My dreams are of the singular lives that I might have had...although I can't recall how I reached this life I have now. I dream of green grass and blue sky. A quiet day in the arms of a beautiful woman who i've known forever with the warm wind on my skin....then I wake. I don't know if I've ever seen that sky or felt that wind. I don't know who that woman is. Did I used to? Did I once?
Sage E'LOS Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.11.10 06:53:00 - [30] - Quote I do indeed. Dream of the countless worlds and the skies they possess, i do. To marvel at the agriculture and the beauty that is knowledge. *Always pass on what you have learned*

Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 97	Posted - 2013.11.18 07:36:00 - [31] - Quote Kamil-13-PL wrote: on the point of clones are the dust clones all clones of 1 guy like the clones from star wars or are they clones of themselves? I recommend you read the Dust fiction short stories. This is Part 7of the Stranded series. Here you'll find some answers. "Do not underestimate the power you have."
GRIM GEAR Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 55	Posted - 2013.11.18 08:03:00 - [32] - Quote They must dream of past times of getting blown up by remote explosive, getting shot in the face by my shotgun and last but not least have recurring nightmares of getting t-bagged balls deep. It's a bird! No it's a plane! Never mind it's just my shotgun in your face!
4447 Pure Innocence. EoN. 815	Posted - 2013.11.18 16:25:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. Or, the age old questionGÇª do we have soulsGÇª.
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 46	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:05:00 - [34] - Quote Since it appears that the religiously-driven Amar had the first OFFICIAL COMBAT RELEASE of clone technology in combat (The Templars, was it?), it is likely that the issue of "clone" grown un-naturally rather than by Nature-ordained would be an issue the Amar would have to have debated in their culture. So it leads to my curiosity point about "clones": If we are made "immortal" simply by way of having multiple disposable bodies (rather than ACTUALLY being physically immortal), is the clone given any natural REPRODUCTION ability? Has it ever been decided whether a clone: does not need to have reproductive organs/plumbing, is not expected to serve that purpose of conceiving children, will not be fitted with the organs because of the risk of producing "tech-artificial" bloodlines in the races instead of the "natural" bloodlines that seem to play a role in clans and EVE lore, is given operable plumbing, but simply in a 'sterile' form so that a clone can enjoy the human urges of companionship without accidentally conceiving and giving birth to a DNA nightmare. ...wow, the places this game could go.... Shivers!
deathgodofwar bdsm corp 4	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:33:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: That's a very good question. Do clones dream? What do they dream of? Do they dream of their past? Are their pasts even their own anymore? Do they dream of death? Of untold amounts of blood spilled across a hundred thousand battlefields? Is this carnage they have caused even considered their own anymore, or is it ascribed to another? Are they really who they started as, or just another entity born into the state of something that came before them? Who's life do they live now? Can what they live now even be called a life? Are they merely a shadow of their former selves, with something irrevocably lost with each death? Oh clones. You give us such wonderful themes to play with. This would be a cool way to take it. Through the curse of slavery I have found damnation.
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 96	Posted - 2014.02.08 03:31:00 - [36] - Quote If they can dream they must have vivid nightmares considering how much they die and fight. But I wonder the constant fighting hardened up some's emotions and others that are insane to a point of no return?
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 174	Posted - 2014.02.14 10:10:00 - [37] - Quote The door opened and his comrades rushed away at the very instant the vehicle came to a grinding, whirring halt. Small arms lit the chassis and several of his friends fell... But were they his friends..? His mind, clouded with confusion was soon met with overwhelming pain as he found himself staring at the sky and rolling his head side-wards to display the grim sight of his lower half beside him before all was dark... ... and awoken again to row after row, column after column of his brothers. All looking exactly alike, all exactly like him. He glanced to his hands with narrowed eyes and thought to himself: "Dad, when we die - is it like dreaming for a really long time?" "No."[/quote] In Templar 1 the main character still retained his looks of his face from his precloned body as he was recognized coming back to were he was killed by his sister and the HalfMan machine that shot him in the head. Clones do not look the same unless twins were cloned.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7063	Posted - 2014.02.14 10:16:00 - [38] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: If they can dream they must have vivid nightmares considering how much they die and fight. But I wonder the constant fighting hardened up some's emotions and others that are insane to a point of no return? Depends on whether or not they consider fighting and dying to be negative things. For example an Amarrian devotee might consider his deaths and all the killing he or she does a noble act in the name of God and get plenty of sleep. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha


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