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da GAND wrote:

Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:

I have to disagree with ExMaple's post. The Mass-Driver has two strengths: close quarters combat and suppression. The explosive radius is required for it to act as a supressive weapon, and the power of the shots is required for it to be useful in close-quarters combat.

It is supposed to be better than the AR in close quarters combat, while also being a hard counter to Heavies.

Engage the Mass driver with an AR from behind a dip, or cover, or in a position where the splash cannot hit you. Additionally, the mass driver is sighted to 45 meters, strafing at 50 meters and most mass driver people will have trouble dealing any damage to you.

Get above the mass driver in areas such as catwalks, roofs, power-lines or on the opposite side of a dip or hill. Standing near the edge of a platform if you are both on it may cause most of his shots to fly over the edge harmlessly.

Run directly past the MD user and then engage from behind him.

Retreat and find a softer target if they are holding a funnel.

Use vehicles.

Bring more ARs to the fight, you don't have to fight solo.

Mass drivers seem to easy to use

Too Easy

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da GAND 187. 235	Posted - 2013.08.09 04:58:00 - [1] - Quote as the title says
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 138	Posted - 2013.08.09 05:01:00 - [2] - Quote Fix armour. Fix explosives.
aden slayer Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 566	Posted - 2013.08.09 05:04:00 - [3] - Quote Make flaylocks OP again.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 756	Posted - 2013.08.09 05:10:00 - [4] - Quote well, CCP Wolfman had no idea the blast radius was buffed from 3.3 to 4.4 at the start of Uprising. Considering he is the lead developer of weapons and did not plan this, it has a larger blast radius than expected. we should prolly bump it down to that, for starters. There was a post early Uprising about this but as you can imagine its lost now. The promblem with the weapon is how easy mode, no skill simple it is to CQC with the Scrub Driver. However, it is intended to be this way, per the description and its nature. It is supposed to be this devistating, we shouldent take that away from the weapon. However however, the Scrublock and Scrubgrenade is the exact same weapon as the massdriver with less shots. So how bout we nerf the Scrub Driver in the same exact way the Scrublock was nerfed? Ppl still use the Scrublock and get kills. No one complains that its a bad weapon, it seems to be balanced. So reasonably we could balance the Scrub Driver if we do the same thing to the bigger, Scrubbier weapon
Death Dealer86 The Seeds of Fire 2	Posted - 2013.08.09 05:13:00 - [5] - Quote nerf them like every other explosive on the game. Those things are making me crazy. It requires 0 skill to launch 6 of those things at someone's feet and kill them. I would guess that if they get adjusted then everyone will move onto plasma cannons... Ahhhh boy!
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 756	Posted - 2013.08.09 05:15:00 - [6] - Quote Death Dealer86 wrote: nerf them like every other explosive on the game. Those things are making me crazy. It requires 0 skill to launch 6 of those things at someone's feet and kill them. I would guess that if they get adjusted then everyone will move onto plasma cannons... Ahhhh boy! 8, actually. If you dont use the freedom, you dont use mass drivers. But yeah they should be nerfed alittle bit, like the flaylock was. Plasma cannons need a buff tho
da GAND 187. 235	Posted - 2013.08.09 12:54:00 - [7] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Death Dealer86 wrote: nerf them like every other explosive on the game. Those things are making me crazy. It requires 0 skill to launch 6 of those things at someone's feet and kill them. I would guess that if they get adjusted then everyone will move onto plasma cannons... Ahhhh boy! 8, actually. If you dont use the freedom, you dont use mass drivers. But yeah they should be nerfed alittle bit, like the flaylock was. Plasma cannons need a buff tho The Plasma cannon round does need to travel faster lol
Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 489	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:04:00 - [8] - Quote I have to disagree with ExMaple's post. The Mass-Driver has two strengths: close quarters combat and suppression. The explosive radius is required for it to act as a supressive weapon, and the power of the shots is required for it to be useful in close-quarters combat. It is supposed to be better than the AR in close quarters combat, while also being a hard counter to Heavies. Engage the Mass driver with an AR from behind a dip, or cover, or in a position where the splash cannot hit you. Additionally, the mass driver is sighted to 45 meters, strafing at 50 meters and most mass driver people will have trouble dealing any damage to you. Get above the mass driver in areas such as catwalks, roofs, power-lines or on the opposite side of a dip or hill. Standing near the edge of a platform if you are both on it may cause most of his shots to fly over the edge harmlessly. Run directly past the MD user and then engage from behind him. Retreat and find a softer target if they are holding a funnel. Use vehicles. Bring more ARs to the fight, you don't have to fight solo.
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 1670	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:06:00 - [9] - Quote Fix hit detection. Then decide
Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 489	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:09:00 - [10] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Fix hit detection. Then decide I believe that this is honestly the biggest factor in the mass-driver's popularity. Once aim assist (adhesion and magnetism) are returned, the AR and many hitscan weapons (better believe the scrambler pistol will make an overnight comeback) will be back to their former glory.

da GAND 187. 235	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:12:00 - [11] - Quote Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: I have to disagree with ExMaple's post. The Mass-Driver has two strengths: close quarters combat and suppression. The explosive radius is required for it to act as a supressive weapon, and the power of the shots is required for it to be useful in close-quarters combat. It is supposed to be better than the AR in close quarters combat, while also being a hard counter to Heavies. Engage the Mass driver with an AR from behind a dip, or cover, or in a position where the splash cannot hit you. Additionally, the mass driver is sighted to 45 meters, strafing at 50 meters and most mass driver people will have trouble dealing any damage to you. Get above the mass driver in areas such as catwalks, roofs, power-lines or on the opposite side of a dip or hill. Standing near the edge of a platform if you are both on it may cause most of his shots to fly over the edge harmlessly. Run directly past the MD user and then engage from behind him. Retreat and find a softer target if they are holding a funnel. Use vehicles. Bring more ARs to the fight, you don't have to fight solo. Mass drivers seem to easy to use Too Easy
Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 490	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:26:00 - [12] - Quote da GAND wrote: Leovarian L Lavitz wrote: I have to disagree with ExMaple's post. The Mass-Driver has two strengths: close quarters combat and suppression. The explosive radius is required for it to act as a supressive weapon, and the power of the shots is required for it to be useful in close-quarters combat. It is supposed to be better than the AR in close quarters combat, while also being a hard counter to Heavies. Engage the Mass driver with an AR from behind a dip, or cover, or in a position where the splash cannot hit you. Additionally, the mass driver is sighted to 45 meters, strafing at 50 meters and most mass driver people will have trouble dealing any damage to you. Get above the mass driver in areas such as catwalks, roofs, power-lines or on the opposite side of a dip or hill. Standing near the edge of a platform if you are both on it may cause most of his shots to fly over the edge harmlessly. Run directly past the MD user and then engage from behind him. Retreat and find a softer target if they are holding a funnel. Use vehicles. Bring more ARs to the fight, you don't have to fight solo. Mass drivers seem to easy to use Too Easy I believe that being easy to use does not equate to over powered, unless you feel the Gallente Assault Rifle is overpowered? It is so simple and easy to use that it is attached to all starter fits to give new players the easiest weapon in the game when starting. I feel that people are engaging the mass driver in the areas it is supposed to win at and are being surprised when they lose. It would be like standing still in front of a shot-gunner in close quarters combat, shooting at him while he shoots at you, and then running to the forums when you die even though there is a way to defeat him.
Paran Tadec Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback 1319	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:27:00 - [13] - Quote Death Dealer86 wrote: nerf them like every other explosive on the game. Those things are making me crazy. It requires 0 skill to launch 6 of those things at someone's feet and kill them. I would guess that if they get adjusted then everyone will move onto plasma cannons... Ahhhh boy! If you cant kill a mass driver user in the 6 seconds it takes them to fire 6 rounds, I feel bad for you.
Michael Arck sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 521	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:30:00 - [14] - Quote So basically you're upset that you keep getting killed by it? What's it going to be next month? Scouts run too fast? Take your butt whooping like a man.


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