Finally, one of you sees how difficult it is.

Which is exactly what I meant just before. Tanking isn't easy, most especially for those new to it.

4mil SP... I haven't completely filled out turret operation; that's at 2mil right now; vehicle operation is another million - so with those, I'd be at almost 4mil.

I have a little over 9mil in vehicle upgrades right now.

You're way, way behind on vehicles.

Well , it really depends . Same as forge gunning is about positioning. I do just fine trolling with a militia HAV...

Wait until you get hit by AV grenades

How to best drive a vehicle,
Be absolutely scared of everything.

Well it works, you either kill it or run from it whatever it is.

Fixed. An infantry is easy to take out while doing OK damage. There is no excuse to being caught with your tail between your legs. ALWAYS have an escape route. Turrets are also pretty easy to take out.

According to your logic, militia/standard dropsuits should stand zero chances to taking out a proto dropsuit.

But that's not how it is. A standard dropsuit can kill a proto suit with strategy. There's no such thing as that for vehicles. Even if a Soma ambushes my Gunnlogi, I will kill it in two railgun shots. And if any vehicle ambushes a Madrugar, chances are the Madrugar will win.

You won't be able to fit anything reasonable without spending more SP, since you need many of those skills hat give PG and CPU and reduce the module costs.

you have a shield tank?

I think one thing that tankers never say is that they are week against AV personnel and not just 1v1 - against coordinated squads of AV - they never talk about non-AV infantry vs tanks.

What about the rest of infantry? When I run into a tank it's instant death for me if I am seen. I can't return fire or do anything at all against a tank. Any infantry w/o AV is dead meat to a tank. Is that fair?

currently the only purpose tanks have are to upset the weapons being used on the map.

If it's only infantry, then only infantry weapons will be deployed to counter infantry. Which results in a stable , 50 / 50 battle.

Throw a tank in the mix, and you will force certain members to swap out that shotgun, or rifle for a swarm launcher, forge gun, or plasma cannon. (or an AV grenade...) during this time, the balance of weapon play shifts, and now the infantry side that has the tank now has an advantage AS LONG AS THAT TANK IS ALIVE. now it changes to a balance of 50+ 1 tank / 35

You've left the enemy team exposed to infantry weapons, and a tank. Those AV'ers cannot engage the tank without their own form of support to guide them to the tank, are be given a vantage point such as forge gun sniping.

Of course the longer the tank is alive, the more potent its affects become. At this point, tanks simple cannot last long enough to cause an real shifts in a battle.

Yes!

Racial HAV skills aren't expensive right now. I was talking ab out Armor Plating, Vehicle Electronics ... upgrade skills

It's your own fault for not bringing so much as AV grenades around. Why should we be nerfed to the point that your Duvolle actually does respectable damage to a tank, when you cannot bother yourself to carry the tools to get the job done?

You sir, we need to talk about your corp.

I see. I wish to join, which is whhhhyyyyy...I said "You sir..."

Went 18/0 in my militia fit miltia tank \o/

Thats actually more imprressive than it sounds because i couldnt hit a barn door short of ramming it.

i probably shouldn't post how well i did on my best match recently... but they make sense. i don't want to see tanks are op because of sniper tactics. all im going to post up is the prot SL is OP.

I really have no idea how delusional a tanker has to be to think that it should take a whole squad to take them out. Don't you realize how imbalanced that would be? All one guy would have to do is call in a tank and completely steam roll the other team until they can get a squad of AV together. Not only that, but that squad of AV has to devote their time to coordinate and trap the tank, giving it more time to steam roll. That's almost half the team being forced into sidearms to deal with one player, while the othere team can be fully fitted with primaries and sides.

Just make tanks cheaper and wait for ADV/PRO tanks. You guys just want your crutch.