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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:40:00 -
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And its soooo annoying :( how do we feel about this? |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:41:00 -
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Dropsuits are becoming as numerous as field bushes
how do we feel about this? |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:43:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:And its soooo annoying :( how do we feel about this?
I feel your pain |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
191
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:44:00 -
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Yet no one complained until recently. The mass driver has been the same since 1.1 |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:44:00 -
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I demand a Nerf!
Oh yeah and,
I demand a respec! |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:47:00 -
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StubbyDucky wrote:I demand a Nerf! Oh yeah and, I demand a respec! Hm |
LudiKure ninda
Trans Worlds Operations League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:47:00 -
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I love my mass driver |
cedz636
BLaQ Heavy CORP
116
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:48:00 -
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not another one of these threads
the MD isn't OP...you're just not used to being killed by them. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1077
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:52:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:And its soooo annoying :( how do we feel about this? I'm happy it means the minnies have a crutch to use in FW. The Amarr we utterly destroying them groundside last I checked. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
460
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:52:00 -
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cedz636 wrote:not another one of these threads
the MD isn't OP...you're just not used to being killed by them.
Well the MD is good,not broken. Of course the feeling of 2-4 MD users shooting at you at the same time is a lot more stressing than 4 AR users shooting at you, but even if you feel less hopeless,you are still equally hopeless just with more explosions... XD |
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Cpt Merdock
Ninth Legion Freelance Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:53:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:And its soooo annoying :( how do we feel about this?
its a part of the game, and we need to deal with it. Mostly this community doesn't deal with things very well though, they just wine to get their way. :) |
We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:54:00 -
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Im just glad to be killed by something other than an AR. this game has a pile of weapons, some are broken so bad as to be unusable and some are a little OP. This game needs the diversity I don't want it to become another AR shooter |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:56:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:Im just glad to be killed by something other than an AR. this game has a pile of weapons, some are broken so bad as to be unusable and some are a little OP. This game needs the diversity I don't want it to become another AR shooter
Fix my HMG |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:56:00 -
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new FoTM explosion spam... more things change, the more they stay the same... same ol DUST |
gbh08
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:56:00 -
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I wasnt keen, getting ganked by a squad using these is a nightmare, but if you cant beat them, join them |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:57:00 -
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See what I mean |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:57:00 -
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I'm not seeing it. Given I'm a sniper, but MDs only make up about a quarter of the suits I see. ARs make up about half, not counting scrambler rifles. |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.08.09 00:59:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm not seeing it. Given I'm a sniper, but MDs only make up about a quarter of the suits I see. ARs make up about half, not counting scrambler rifles.
A Sniper |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2823
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:00:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm not seeing it. Given I'm a sniper, but MDs only make up about a quarter of the suits I see. ARs make up about half, not counting scrambler rifles. A Sniper MDs are very noticeable through a sniper scope. Distinctive silhouette and movement pattern, plus explosions you can see from across the map. I'm not one of those snipers that stays in 1 place either, I move with the action. |
We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:00:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:We are 138 wrote:Im just glad to be killed by something other than an AR. this game has a pile of weapons, some are broken so bad as to be unusable and some are a little OP. This game needs the diversity I don't want it to become another AR shooter Fix my HMG
lol HMG's are still a little underpowered I agree. but not by much and I still get killed by them on a regular basis, though I should NEVER be able to kill a heavy with my toxin smg and him/her not be able to kill me at close range with a HMG....that makes no sense
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gbh08
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:02:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm not seeing it. Given I'm a sniper, but MDs only make up about a quarter of the weapons I see. ARs make up about half, not counting scrambler rifles.
They a bit like buses, you wait a hour without seeing one, then when you do, 10 come along at once
(ok slight exaggeration)
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McFurious
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:03:00 -
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I see them all the time but I haven't had a problem.
Forgeguns on the other hand... They just love me for some reason. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
991
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:05:00 -
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As a Gallente suit, I hate it. |
Viktor Zokas
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:06:00 -
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HTFU |
We are 138
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:13:00 -
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HA! more importantly STAY TO COVER! when I start seeing forge rounds I stay out of the open. Its just like any other sniper if you are getting shot at by one you cant just ignore it and hope it goes away. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:13:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:And its soooo annoying :( how do we feel about this?
You know... I posted that mass drivers are going to be the new fotm and people laughed.
So not surprised. Its much easier to deal with MDs in the MCC. The explosives spam is ridiculous in PC, but its always been that way so c'est la dust. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
991
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:13:00 -
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Easy to say from a dual tank >.> |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:16:00 -
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People are complaining now because the Mass Driver spam really brings out all the problems that armour tankers face.
If armour was not so underpowered, few would be complaining about the MD. And MD "spam" would not exist. (as of now, spam is a bit of a hyperbole) |
Jonny Moreau
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:34:00 -
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If you have a full grouo of anyone spamming almost anh weapon its OP, focus fire takes down everyone fast.
Imagine, you are running in your pimped out, totally potatoed and kincatted and damage modded assault suit and turn the corner. Imto a scene out of a nightmare. A wall of six plasma cannoning logis unleash hell upon your expensive suit with thier super cheap splash damage weapons. Within seconds, thw only thing that remains of your corpse is a pile of slag by the road.
Or maybe theh were all md people. Or hmg heavies. Or worse, duvolle people. Or hope-you-are-an-amarr-so-you-have-a-god-to-pray-to forgunners. Or six scout shotgunners. Any weapon spammed witha coordinated squad can do ridiculous damge. Its just better to diversify a squad so that they're useful in any situation |
Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:45:00 -
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If shotguns worked and scouts weren't nerfed- again, we wouldn't have this problem. |
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calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.08.09 01:48:00 -
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I agree the HMG does need work. But the mass driver is the new noon tube so I guess we deal with the over spamming of these. Life in Dust today TAC AR and Flaylock tomorrow contact nades and MD. |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.08.09 03:36:00 -
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We are 138 wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:We are 138 wrote:Im just glad to be killed by something other than an AR. this game has a pile of weapons, some are broken so bad as to be unusable and some are a little OP. This game needs the diversity I don't want it to become another AR shooter Fix my HMG lol HMG's are still a little underpowered I agree. but not by much and I still get killed by them on a regular basis, though I should NEVER be able to kill a heavy with my toxin smg and him/her not be able to kill me at close range with a HMG....that makes no sense
I like you |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2013.08.09 03:43:00 -
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Yeah I kinda love the idea of the Mass Driver...as a mid-range support weapon. But it never really functions like that when I come up against folks using them. Most use it as a CQB spam machine. Kinda foolish if you ask me. Especially when you factor all the smoke and distortion that the thing causes. How players don't blow the hell outta themselves is beyond me.
I think if you are going to "fix" the Mass Driver it need not have anything to do with damage...spash or direct. Instead incorporate two things:
1. Slower rate of fire and slower projectile speed. This will ensure the skill factor is present in the weapon handling. Careful shots should be key.
2. Incorporate a minimum number of "twists" or minimum distance the projectile has to travel before it is armed and will explode. This is a simple feature of most real world grenade launchers as a safety measure and will help ensure the weapon cannot be used as some kind of super-shotgun. It keeps the weapon locked into mid-range combat. You can still give the projectile some damage capability if you get a direct hit at close range...just not explosive damage.
Work in those physics and the Mass Driver makes a lot more sense IMO. |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.08.09 03:50:00 -
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My inner hipster wants to say " I used the mass driver before it was cool" |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
756
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:00:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:And its soooo annoying :( how do we feel about this? You know... I posted that mass drivers are going to be the new fotm and people laughed. So not surprised. Its much easier to deal with MDs in the MCC. The explosives spam is ridiculous in PC, but its always been that way so c'est la dust.
Yeah your were right. Now that the contact grenades and flaylocks been balanced ppl move onto the other no skill weapon of dust |
Cy Clone1
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
187
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:11:00 -
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assault forge needs a fix more than the md. Yeah I said it. that being said yeah assault md are pretty dangerous with high ground, I wouldn't say their op though. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
329
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:13:00 -
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Shocking! I am glad that at least someone finally started a thread about MD. |
jordy mack
Ultramarine Corp
10
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:25:00 -
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omg another dumb md topic.... there is more than one weapon in this game, adapt ur playstyle and get over it. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:28:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:omg another dumb md topic.... there is more than one weapon in this game, adapt ur playstyle and get over it.
lolol yes my point exactly! there are more than one weapon in the game, so why so many mass drivers now?? |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
55
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:29:00 -
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RydogV wrote:Yeah I kinda love the idea of the Mass Driver...as a mid-range support weapon. But it never really functions like that when I come up against folks using them. Most use it as a CQB spam machine. Kinda foolish if you ask me. Especially when you factor all the smoke and distortion that the thing causes. How players don't blow the hell outta themselves is beyond me.
I think if you are going to "fix" the Mass Driver it need not have anything to do with damage...spash or direct. Instead incorporate two things:
1. Slower rate of fire and slower projectile speed. This will ensure the skill factor is present in the weapon handling. Careful shots should be key.
2. Incorporate a minimum number of "twists" or minimum distance the projectile has to travel before it is armed and will explode. This is a simple feature of most real world grenade launchers as a safety measure and will help ensure the weapon cannot be used as some kind of super-shotgun. It keeps the weapon locked into mid-range combat. You can still give the projectile some damage capability if you get a direct hit at close range...just not explosive damage.
Work in those physics and the Mass Driver makes a lot more sense IMO.
If you read the description, its for area denial and breaching. The forums seem to reflect that its filling its role. But heres the thing, some people don't understand these concepts. Area denial means don't go there, you'll be shot. Simply go around. Would you run headlong into an AR user? Or 6, since they decided to squad up as a bunch of gekmen led by the duvolle mastermind? On top of this Mass drivers in close quarters fit their other role. Not to say they can't easily destroy themselves if they aren't shield tanked and intelligent. As for the armour users, I suggest dealing with the damage bonus explosives have against you. Its just a matter of time before everyone discovers the laser rifle when it gets new sites. Combining this, scramblers, and flux, you get a whole world of hurt beating down the shield tanked players at close AND afar. |
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kiro of justice
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:47:00 -
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I lol at them as I use my tac to take them out from elevated positions. Adapt or die motherf*ckers. |
McFurious
TeamPlayers EoN.
243
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Posted - 2013.08.09 04:57:00 -
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Shameless link to my thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=100795&find=unread
Go discuss. I think that idea has potential. |
kiro of justice
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2013.08.09 05:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:And its soooo annoying :( how do we feel about this? I'm happy it means the minnies have a crutch to use in FW. The Amarr we utterly destroying them groundside last I checked.
Yes...After 3 Precision Strikes you guys managed to squeeze out a victory on Hadozeko. Talk about Mighty. |
Medical Crash
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415
57
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Posted - 2013.08.09 05:24:00 -
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I recently started using the MD and it's great. Also started to Flux enemy Caldari, I hadn't been doing this up until this point. Puts a smile on my face when my enemy Caldaris realize they've been fluxed. They run like the cowards they are. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.08.09 05:29:00 -
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Medical Crash wrote:I recently started using the MD and it's great. Also started to Flux enemy Caldari, I hadn't been doing this up until this point. Puts a smile on my face when my enemy Caldaris realize they've been fluxed. They run like the cowards they are.
define "great" |
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