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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1062
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Posted - 2013.08.08 07:36:00 -
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.... But I can't because my Tank hasn't been release yet.....
Sooner or later I'll be one of those players bitching for a respec......
The horrors of Infantry combats are getting old. I want to try something difficult and new. Shame that I was forced to choose between.
Infantry Suits
or
Tanks I don't want to/ will never use (AKA Gallentean Tank eugh)
Since Infantry suits were all that was available.... what other choice did I have. I don't relish the time I'm going to have to spend being a ****** militia tanker before I can even be survivable in combat. |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
141
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Posted - 2013.08.08 07:41:00 -
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Don't bother going for tanks. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1062
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Posted - 2013.08.08 07:47:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:Don't bother going for tanks. I'm going to do it anyway.
Fighting lame ass AR players day in day our is boring as hell.
I love being killed by a Mass Driver or a Scrambler Rifle, or god forbid it a Tank roll up on me.
I also love burning though shield tankers and cackling madly as my laser scythes through shield and armour alike. But what my corp needs is Armoured loving in the form of a massive bastion of God's Holy Wrath (aka a tank).
I want to be that tanker.
Except I can't do it until Amarrian Tanks come out... even then I wont be able to do it will until I have a couple of million SP invested into it.
Too many roles I want to fill, none of those core content items have been released yet (Amarrian Tanks and MTAC's) so I cant do anything but stock pile SP until they do get released. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 08:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:Don't bother going for tanks. I'm going to do it anyway. Fighting lame ass AR players day in day our is boring as hell. I love being killed by a Mass Driver or a Scrambler Rifle, or god forbid it a Tank roll up on me. I also love burning though shield tankers and cackling madly as my laser scythes through shield and armour alike. But what my corp needs is Armoured loving in the form of a massive bastion of God's Holy Wrath (aka a tank). I want to be that tanker. Except I can't do it until Amarrian Tanks come out... even then I wont be able to do it will until I have a couple of million SP invested into it. Too many roles I want to fill, none of those core content items have been released yet (Amarrian Tanks and MTAC's) so I cant do anything but stock pile SP until they do get released.
Good luck!
If anything I'll squad up with you sometime when they're released, to make sure you don't blow it up; those tanks are expensive... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1063
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Posted - 2013.08.08 08:30:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:True Adamance wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:Don't bother going for tanks. I'm going to do it anyway. Fighting lame ass AR players day in day our is boring as hell. I love being killed by a Mass Driver or a Scrambler Rifle, or god forbid it a Tank roll up on me. I also love burning though shield tankers and cackling madly as my laser scythes through shield and armour alike. But what my corp needs is Armoured loving in the form of a massive bastion of God's Holy Wrath (aka a tank). I want to be that tanker. Except I can't do it until Amarrian Tanks come out... even then I wont be able to do it will until I have a couple of million SP invested into it. Too many roles I want to fill, none of those core content items have been released yet (Amarrian Tanks and MTAC's) so I cant do anything but stock pile SP until they do get released. Good luck! If anything I'll squad up with you sometime when they're released, to make sure you don't blow it up; those tanks are expensive...
Lol not my ones but thanks Im sure Ill take you up on that since you come custom built with a forge gun. You can carry me if I **** up mid way through a fight.
Also if laser turrets operate the same way hand held lasers do I will be very very happy. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1064
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Posted - 2013.08.08 08:39:00 -
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TANKING IS FUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
2411
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:14:00 -
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I want to see big laser turrets on Amarrian HAVs. Like the laser rifle, but much, much bigger. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1064
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I want to see big laser turrets on Amarrian HAVs. Like the laser rifle, but much, much bigger.
Same. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
401
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:19:00 -
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I wonder how we will fit amarr HAV? we will need an insane amount of PG/CPU. I imagine large laser turrets like a big scrambler, not the assault, laser pulse and a charged shot, for the little turrets i hope they will be like the laser rifle, beams everywhere |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:40:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:I wonder how we will fit amarr HAV? we will need an insane amount of PG/CPU. I imagine large laser turrets like a big scrambler, not the assault, laser pulse and a charged shot, for the little turrets i hope they will be like the laser rifle, beams everywhere Yup I want to be the kind of tank that looks like its glowing. |
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Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 09:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:TANKING IS FUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
That it is
Your corp ha a public channel right? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:07:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:True Adamance wrote:TANKING IS FUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! That it is Your corp has a public channel right?
PIE Public is for all Amarrian loyalists to use openly.... I know you don't swing that way so..... play it cool while you are in PIE pub or Fleet will evict you from chat. Hopefully we can get a few games in at some point.
EDIT- your caldari all is cool. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:True Adamance wrote:TANKING IS FUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! That it is Your corp has a public channel right? PIE Public is for all Amarrian loyalists to use openly.... I know you don't swing that way so..... play it cool while you are in PIE pub or Fleet will evict you from chat. Hopefully we can get a few games in at some point. EDIT- your caldari all is cool.
I'll join the chat in a few hours (Taking a break); I won't cause trouble while I'm in there. Hopefully we can.
Me being Caldari makes it better? meh... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:39:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:True Adamance wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:True Adamance wrote:TANKING IS FUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! That it is Your corp has a public channel right? PIE Public is for all Amarrian loyalists to use openly.... I know you don't swing that way so..... play it cool while you are in PIE pub or Fleet will evict you from chat. Hopefully we can get a few games in at some point. EDIT- your caldari all is cool. I'll join the chat in a few hours (Taking a break); I won't cause trouble while I'm in there. Hopefully we can. Me being Caldari makes it better? meh... Yeah ...... some of the Rpers really don't like Matari. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:58:00 -
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I just realized I run mostly Amarr gear -_- |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:03:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:I just realized I run mostly Amarr gear -_-
Join us... I mean nice one dude..... LOL
Anywho I just bought (yes Im ashamed to say it) two Maddies to see how they compare to a Soma. I thnk It'll be the speed and the fire power that make all the difference. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
624
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:04:00 -
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Im looking forward to tge amar and mini havs I will skill into every vehicle eventually . But im sure the ammar havs will be beast with latge laser turrets and mini havs with artillary shells oh the carnage will be awesome. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
88
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:09:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:I just realized I run mostly Amarr gear -_- Join us... I mean nice one dude..... LOL Anywho I just bought (yes Im ashamed to say it) two Maddies to see how they compare to a Soma. I thnk It'll be the speed and the fire power that make all the difference.
Nah, its the extra Low-slot, PG, and CPU thats useful
I'm just waiting til' Caldari Heavy Drop-suits come out |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1066
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:10:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Im looking forward to tge amar and mini havs I will skill into every vehicle eventually . But im sure the ammar havs will be beast with latge laser turrets and mini havs with artillary shells oh the carnage will be awesome. Yeah I kind of hope one day we will see two Minnie HAV weapon types.
The Auto Cannon, and rapid fire explosive anti infantry weapon, and the Arty shells as well, that way you could have batteries of Matari HAV's raining down hell as glorious golded figures dash between the falling shells to smash aside all resistance..... my pseudo erotic tank fantasies aside It would be epic to have formations of Amarrian tanks. |
Dr Allopathy
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
259
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:11:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:I just realized I run mostly Amarr gear -_- I'm a racially confused gallente who uses Amarrian weapons every match. |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
1134
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:.... But I can't because my Tank hasn't been release yet.....
Sooner or later I'll be one of those players bitching for a respec......
Or join the tiercide movement. SP investments technically are lowered (unless you go for T2 stuff, which would only matter if you wanted to specialise as it won't have a massive overall upgrade from the basic tank, just a more prominent strength and corresponding weakness).
Yours is a prime example of the issue CCP faces with releasing new content. Right now, new items become SP sinks and new players get more confused whilst vets get a bigger and bigger advantage. The system is overcomplicated. Items are balanced against SP, ISK, and their stats (DPS, RPM, overheat, turret hardpoints, ammo count, spawn time reduction, passenger limit, speed, etc.). Tiercide reduces the importance of balancing by SP by stressing the importance of balancing item stats by equalising almost everything (could leave one tier advancement) and balancing by ISK, because now that people have access to lots of items, it's either try a little of everything and have mediocre skills with different variants of a weapon/suit or focus into one specialisation and be really damn good at it. Either way, managing ISK becomes much more important as people will be dying more (newbies can actually start getting kills against vets, and vets start getting more kills against newbies). |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1066
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:14:00 -
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Dr Allopathy wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:I just realized I run mostly Amarr gear -_- I'm a racially confused gallente who uses Amarrian weapons every match. Good the more people who recognise the superiority of the Amarr the better. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
624
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Im looking forward to tge amar and mini havs I will skill into every vehicle eventually . But im sure the ammar havs will be beast with latge laser turrets and mini havs with artillary shells oh the carnage will be awesome. Yeah I kind of hope one day we will see two Minnie HAV weapon types. The Auto Cannon, and rapid fire explosive anti infantry weapon, and the Arty shells as well, that way you could have batteries of Matari HAV's raining down hell as glorious golded figures dash between the falling shells to smash aside all resistance..... my pseudo erotic tank fantasies aside It would be epic to have formations of Amarrian tanks.
I think I was running solo in a pub game yester day with yourself and a bunch of your guys and we just tank spammed for tge win I counted 3 gunlogis including myself and 4 maddys all with blasters on the enimy redline lol now just imagine what tgat woukd have been like if we had ammar and mini havs oh it would have been stunning. I will aways of corse have my gunlogi for my go to hav but I really cant wait to get the mini and ammar ones as well I just love variation when it comes to tanks.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1066
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:15:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:True Adamance wrote:.... But I can't because my Tank hasn't been release yet.....
Sooner or later I'll be one of those players bitching for a respec......
Or join the tiercide movement. SP investments technically are lowered (unless you go for T2 stuff, which would only matter if you wanted to specialise as it won't have a massive overall upgrade from the basic tank, just a more prominent strength and corresponding weakness). Yours is a prime example of the issue CCP faces with releasing new content. Right now, new items become SP sinks and new players get more confused whilst vets get a bigger and bigger advantage. The system is overcomplicated. Items are balanced against SP, ISK, and their stats (DPS, RPM, overheat, turret hardpoints, ammo count, spawn time reduction, passenger limit, speed, etc.). Tiercide reduces the importance of balancing by SP by stressing the importance of balancing item stats by equalising almost everything (could leave one tier advancement) and balancing by ISK, because now that people have access to lots of items, it's either try a little of everything and have mediocre skills with different variants of a weapon/suit or focus into one specialisation and be really damn good at it. Either way, managing ISK becomes much more important as people will be dying more (newbies can actually start getting kills against vets, and vets start getting more kills against newbies). I actually made a post about this expressly suggesting we only have T1 (advanced level gear with standardised slot lay out and more variety in drop suit types) and tech 2 (same slot lay outs and variant but with specialised bonuses) Then we up T2 isk values to muc higher levels. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1066
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:17:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:True Adamance wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Im looking forward to tge amar and mini havs I will skill into every vehicle eventually . But im sure the ammar havs will be beast with latge laser turrets and mini havs with artillary shells oh the carnage will be awesome. Yeah I kind of hope one day we will see two Minnie HAV weapon types. The Auto Cannon, and rapid fire explosive anti infantry weapon, and the Arty shells as well, that way you could have batteries of Matari HAV's raining down hell as glorious golded figures dash between the falling shells to smash aside all resistance..... my pseudo erotic tank fantasies aside It would be epic to have formations of Amarrian tanks. I think I was running solo in a pub game yester day with yourself and a bunch of your guys and we just tank spammed for tge win I counted 3 gunlogis including myself and 4 maddys all with blasters on the enimy redline lol now just imagine what tgat woukd have been like if we had ammar and mini havs oh it would have been stunning. I will aways of corse have my gunlogi for my go to hav but I really cant wait to get the mini and ammar ones as well I just love variation when it comes to tanks.
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Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
89
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:18:00 -
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Soma
Turrets - 1x Militia 80GJ Blaster 2x Whatever fits
Low-Slots - 1x Carapace Armor Hardener (Or the best Hardener you can fit) 1x Heavy Efficient Armor Repair Unit (Or the best Repair Unit you can fit) 1x 180mm Reinforced Polycrystalline Plates (Or the best Armor Plating you can fit) 1x ______ (Put whatever you want in this Low-slot)
High-Slots - x1 Active Heat Sink II x1 _______ (Whatever you want to put here)
This should be a decent fitting |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1066
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:20:00 -
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Shattered Mirage wrote:Soma
Turrets - 1x Militia 80GJ Blaster 2x Whatever fits
Low-Slots - 1x Carapace Armor Hardener (Or the best Hardener you can fit) 1x Heavy Efficient Armor Repair Unit (Or the best Repair Unit you can fit) 1x 180mm Reinforced Polycrystalline Plates (Or the best Armor Plating you can fit) 1x ______ (Put whatever you want in this Low-slot)
High-Slots - x1 Active Heat Sink II x1 _______ (Whatever you want to put here)
This should be a decent fitting I'll try that out then do yu know how much SP that costs to achieve? |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
625
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:22:00 -
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I would recomend either a good passive armour hardner in the extra low or another carapace armoir hardner for the extra ehp. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
89
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:22:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:Soma
Turrets - 1x Militia 80GJ Blaster 2x Whatever fits
Low-Slots - 1x Carapace Armor Hardener (Or the best Hardener you can fit) 1x Heavy Efficient Armor Repair Unit (Or the best Repair Unit you can fit) 1x 180mm Reinforced Polycrystalline Plates (Or the best Armor Plating you can fit) 1x ______ (Put whatever you want in this Low-slot)
High-Slots - x1 Active Heat Sink II x1 _______ (Whatever you want to put here)
This should be a decent fitting I'll try that out then do yu know how much SP that costs to achieve?
Hmm... around 3-5 million if you wanted to get the best stuff. |
Shattered Mirage
D.A.R.K Academy D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
89
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Posted - 2013.08.08 11:33:00 -
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You're also going to want to get Vehicle Electronics, Vehicle Engineering, Vehicle shield upgrades, Vehicle Armor upgrades to level 5 as soon as possible.
Then (Most important on top; descending order)
Vehicle Armor Repairing Vehicle Armor Plating Armor Adaptation Vehicle Turret Upgrades Shield Recharging Shield Adaptation Shield Boost Systems Vehicle Shield Extension Vehicle Maneuvering Sensor Upgrades Mobile CRU Operation Shield Transporting Remote Repair Systems |
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