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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.08.07 23:33:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:JW v Weingarten wrote:there is no such thing as gun game in dust.
Yes there is, it's just non-apparent in PC No, there isn't. Every movement to your aim has a delay on it since Uprising and with the increase of strafe speed in 1.2 it has reached the point where there is no possible way for a human to track a target via reaction. Most of your so called "gun game" is actually instinctual guesswork, and folks who pride themselves on it are overconfident of their own abilities. Furthermore, moving objects in Dust still do not have fluid movement as the netcode gives every person a kind of "slideshow shuffle" as they run. As long as player movement does not appear fluid there is no way for a human to do anything other than guess which will they will turn. Even an individual who jumps into the air can change direction on a whim, rendering prediction ultimately useless. I too would enjoy Dust being an actual tracking shooter, but currently that is not possible with mechanics we have been given. Do not fool yourself into thinking you have proven gungame in Dust, because you don't. No one does. It's all very well saying all that, and I do know exactly what you mean and I understand that is apparent. But that does not dismiss the fact that using weapons other than the aforementioned 5 is far more prudent in what I'd deem a 'good' fight. There are bugs and all that **** as we all know but hell at the end of the day, a gun fight is a gun fight and I'd much rather in not be against a spam-weapon. See my point? I wasn't trying to question the physical mechanics of the game.
I don't know how long you've been doing corp battles but its the way its always been done since before PC. People will always use whatever they have to to win. In the begin it was tanks/missiles then when we finally got off of manus peak it was all about getting up high with md and vizam. Its just the way the game is. Between the map layouts and the horrible lack of balance with weapons/equipment this is where we are.
Kinda sad that the best battles i had in PC where when we agree'd to not use certain weapons heh.
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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:34:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Well, I used to do corp battles all the time back in... say Jan-March kind of time, but then I quit Dust, and came back for PC. The old corp battles were better, at least, the matches I played. Fights against KEQ, WTF, BetaMax, PRO, PFB etc etc. The problems were apparent to a degree then but not quite as severe, the problems then as you say were more area-denial based not CQ spam.
You talk to me as if I'm unaware of the problem, that's the point of my post.
Didn't mean to talk down on you or anything, i guess my posts are a little aggressive since all the qq/hate recently.
So if you are aware of the problem what is the purpose of this thread? Just a rant i guess? I mean I don't see any other point to it especially for this section of the forum.
As long as there is FPS games and a competitive community to play them, they will always, ALWAYS go to certain weapons,equipment,tactics that can help them win. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
704
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Posted - 2013.08.08 00:59:00 -
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843 Epidemic wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:Well, I used to do corp battles all the time back in... say Jan-March kind of time, but then I quit Dust, and came back for PC. The old corp battles were better, at least, the matches I played. Fights against KEQ, WTF, BetaMax, PRO, PFB etc etc. The problems were apparent to a degree then but not quite as severe, the problems then as you say were more area-denial based not CQ spam.
You talk to me as if I'm unaware of the problem, that's the point of my post.
Didn't mean to talk down on you or anything, i guess my posts are a little aggressive since all the qq/hate recently. So if you are aware of the problem what is the purpose of this thread? Just a rant i guess? I mean I don't see any other point to it especially for this section of the forum. As long as there is FPS games and a competitive community to play them, they will always, ALWAYS go to certain weapons,equipment,tactics that can help them win. Yeah just a rant to be honest, not exactly any less productive than the rest of the threads going around at the moment xD But yeah, this ain't a QQ or ***** at anyone, I'm just mad at the game ;)
Haha your right there, then in my defense to my orginal post, let me rant too bro:P haha.
But ya I understand man, think everyone(even the people who usually keep quiet) are getting fed up with the game, hence posts like these. |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.08 01:08:00 -
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ritslight umarn wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:Baracka Flocka Flame wrote:843 Epidemic wrote:Well, I used to do corp battles all the time back in... say Jan-March kind of time, but then I quit Dust, and came back for PC. The old corp battles were better, at least, the matches I played. Fights against KEQ, WTF, BetaMax, PRO, PFB etc etc. The problems were apparent to a degree then but not quite as severe, the problems then as you say were more area-denial based not CQ spam.
You talk to me as if I'm unaware of the problem, that's the point of my post.
Didn't mean to talk down on you or anything, i guess my posts are a little aggressive since all the qq/hate recently. So if you are aware of the problem what is the purpose of this thread? Just a rant i guess? I mean I don't see any other point to it especially for this section of the forum. As long as there is FPS games and a competitive community to play them, they will always, ALWAYS go to certain weapons,equipment,tactics that can help them win. Yeah just a rant to be honest, not exactly any less productive than the rest of the threads going around at the moment xD But yeah, this ain't a QQ or ***** at anyone, I'm just mad at the game ;) Haha your right there, then in my defense to my orginal post, let me rant too bro:P haha. But ya I understand man, think everyone(even the people who usually keep quiet) are getting fed up with the game, hence posts like these. You got to think if they start to nerf everything this game will loose more players then it will gain, the only thing what doesn't bother me Is the nades I do moan but I live with it (I am armor based myself)
Don't think anyone is asking for a nerf here. Its the fact this game has always lacked proper balance and will continue too since the only way CCP knows how to fix somthing is to completely nerf it till its useless. i.e - Missile turrets, Breach AR, LR etc.
I've played this game since the begin of Closed Beta and everytime CCP 'fixes' something it usually just means they nerfed a bunch of crap. Game needs a hell of a lot more proper balance, not nerfs. |
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