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Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 841	Posted - 2013.08.07 20:27:00 - [1] - Quote People, including myself, have been harassing FoxFour on IRC for a while now to get CCP to implement team deployments, and it's supposedly coming before the end of this year, which is still too long off. They should've made improvements to FW before even thinking about implementing PC. If FW matches were only available for 6-man squads or full teams for a few minutes before they became available for solo players all the pubstompers would be queing up here for great fights all the time, since you would have competitve teams going at eachother all the time. You wouldn't need a full team since you could expect to have other competitive 6-man squads with you. Only if they weren't filled fast enough they would allow solo players to join. Or perhaps just make some FW matches be joinable by solo players only while the majority were squad/team restricted. Way higher rewards (for winning) would of course be needed. If this was done instead of the rather stupid idea of PC it would have been so great. They implemented PC without a place for corps to "practice", so corps were not really able to be ready for PC before going into it. FW needed to be a training ground for corps wanting to enter PC when it was going to be released (since they should've waited with it until FW was working), as well as a place for competitive battles in general.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 844	Posted - 2013.08.08 06:56:00 - [2] - Quote Terry Webber wrote: Since you guys like to be able to deploy a 16-man team for FW, then you're going to love what CCP Foxfour has to say in this thread in post #4. Full team queing is still a long way off. I would say November or December from what I've been hearing, which is just too long off. Also from what I can tell, full team deployments won't be implemented properly. Rewards in FW won't be good enough, teams won't necessarily go up against other organised teams very often, which just means it will be a total disaster from the beginning. FW should be a place for organised teams, whether that is full teams or a group of organised squads, to go up against each other. Solo players should not be able to enter matches with these organised teams/squads, at least not for the first couple of minutes, so if the match doesn't fill up, solo players can fill it up as needed. If you really want solo players to be able to play FW battles, then there should be a little amount of FW battles that can only be joined by solo players.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 845	Posted - 2013.08.08 20:04:00 - [3] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: As long as we get the same amount of isk as a P/C battle it'll be the only thing I que into lol I think it should be slightly less ISK than you get in PC matches. Obivously it needs to be higher than what Instant Battles give out now, but PC matches should give out the most ISK. Though, in my opinion PC matches should be giving more ISK than they currently do, in exchange for no passive ISK generation whatsoever.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 846	Posted - 2013.08.08 20:13:00 - [4] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: If it's over 1 mill I will play it lol, as for pc giving more isk that all depends on biomass cost I think Honestly, even 1m ISK is fairly low. With the right implementation you would be fighting other organised teams every time in FW, so 1m ISK for winning would be too low in my opinion. FW battles should be PC lite, and you would need high rewards to make it matter. Like I said though, there should be higher rewards in PC as well in exchange for no passive ISK generation at all.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 846	Posted - 2013.08.08 20:15:00 - [5] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: I was thinking of some options. A) 1.5 X multiplier ISK for the winner. B) Possibly no ISK for losing. (imagine how hard you will fight) C) Like you suggested, a median of isk between PC and Instant battle Yeah, exactly something like this. Personally I think the losing team should get some ISK, but nowhere near enough to cover their losses. Maybe half of the winning team. So a 2x multiplier on ISK rewards for winning should do it. Maybe have the same salvage system as in PC or something as well.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 847	Posted - 2013.08.08 20:26:00 - [6] - Quote Kinky Burrito wrote: This is already in the works with the new matchmaking system. Foxfour said his team is done with it and sending it to the main branch. You will also be able to join a queue for FW and pick your side, instead of this back out, refresh thing we have now. In the works? I'm not so sure about that. Full team deployment are coming late this year at the earliest. Even if they manage to actually make a matchmaking system in 1.4 that works why would people play FW matches? There would be no extra rewards or anything else.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 847	Posted - 2013.08.08 20:32:00 - [7] - Quote Also isn't the new matchmaking system not for Instant Battles only? For FW matches you just que up for a faction of your choice and whenever that faction + another one has enough players you enter the match = no matchmaking at all. FW in 1.4 and long beyond is still going to be solo players versus solo players, maybe with a few squads thrown in the mix once in a while.
Bendtner92 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 847	Posted - 2013.08.08 20:44:00 - [8] - Quote Kinky Burrito wrote: Source I read that already. Let me quote something from that post. Quote: So what we are going to allow you to do is take a squad, or yourself, select which faction(s) you want to fight for and then queue for them. Once we have enough people that are queueing for a faction that opposes the ones you have selected, and enough besides you queueing for the one you want to fight for, a battle is started. That's what's coming in 1.4 and what we will have for a while, since like I said full team deployment are coming late this year, if this year at all. That queing system won't give us organised fights in any way. It'll just be solo players versus solo players for the most part. FW will still not be organised fights with great rewards or anything.

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