DUST Search - Extra credits: balancing for skill.

Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

ZDub 303 wrote:

Scheneighnay McBob wrote:

KingBlade82 wrote:

I disagree about the noob tube aka the mass driver/flaylock, grenades fill the new player role anything else is just bad balancing on CCPs part and AR's, ScR, ScP, SMG take skill so if u r complaining about that u should look back at fps games and see whats harder to use

people use AR because its familiar ik that's why I started using it

Mass drivers aren't noob tubes- noob tubes are weapons anyone can be good with, not grenade launchers.

Murder taxis are the closest thing dust has to noob tubes.

Mass Drivers ARE noob tubes. Its just that this punishing SP system isn't showing the metrics for it quite yet as it takes ages for people to settle into speccing it.

Full splash damage out at 6m? Theres no skill in that.

Combine with no skill flux nades that will deplete 100% of shields throughout the ENTIRE blast radius give you a 1 shot on shield tankers and a 2-3 shot on armor tankers?

no skill necessary.

At least with ARs you have to aim. its not easy taking down someone with 600+ EHP in a 1v1 strafe battle with automatic weapons in this game.

With a MD? Oh just have to shoot forward, my 6-8m of splash will take care of the rest.

Most of my kills in PC are with M1 locus nades... care to guess why? Splash damage mechanics are ******

Try a mass driver before you say that.

It's difficult to hit with them at range, nearly impossible to hit someone above you, you rely on flux grenades (otherwise you'll never get through anyone's shields), and the lack of ammo ties you to a supply depot or limited nanohives.

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Namirial Kensai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.08.07 17:10:00 - [1] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: KingBlade82 wrote: I disagree about the noob tube aka the mass driver/flaylock, grenades fill the new player role anything else is just bad balancing on CCPs part and AR's, ScR, ScP, SMG take skill so if u r complaining about that u should look back at fps games and see whats harder to use people use AR because its familiar ik that's why I started using it Mass drivers aren't noob tubes- noob tubes are weapons anyone can be good with, not grenade launchers. Murder taxis are the closest thing dust has to noob tubes. Mass Drivers ARE noob tubes. Its just that this punishing SP system isn't showing the metrics for it quite yet as it takes ages for people to settle into speccing it. Full splash damage out at 6m? Theres no skill in that. Combine with no skill flux nades that will deplete 100% of shields throughout the ENTIRE blast radius give you a 1 shot on shield tankers and a 2-3 shot on armor tankers? no skill necessary. At least with ARs you have to aim. its not easy taking down someone with 600+ EHP in a 1v1 strafe battle with automatic weapons in this game. With a MD? Oh just have to shoot forward, my 6-8m of splash will take care of the rest. Most of my kills in PC are with M1 locus nades... care to guess why? Splash damage mechanics are ****** Try a mass driver before you say that. It's difficult to hit with them at range, nearly impossible to hit someone above you, you rely on flux grenades (otherwise you'll never get through anyone's shields), and the lack of ammo ties you to a supply depot or limited nanohives. 5 games in a row, FIVE, i ran into teams where they would just pick 2/3 or 3/5 objectives, split their team among them, and procveed to chuck grenades and MD everything to hell with nanohives, making it impossible for my team to even get close, even when we all (thank god a team that was WILLING to try this mystical thing called teamwork) focused on one objective, it took us 3 tries, and in that time they just sent one MD-wielding SOB to another objective and capped it, making all our work for nothing.