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Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2013.08.07 02:48:00 - [1] - Quote I am not a noob to this game, but lately i have found myself losing isk due to my expensive suits. The suit i normally run is only about 30,000 ISK a piece, but i die a lot, and the best suit i can run is just all militia, which doesn't help much. Can anyone help me build a suit that is cheap but also effective? and please do not use all militia equipment.
EternalRMG ZionTCD 542	Posted - 2013.08.07 02:52:00 - [2] - Quote Get a STD caldari suit, 2 Shield Extenders 1 regulator 1 red katalizer Ar SMG Nade
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 351	Posted - 2013.08.07 02:52:00 - [3] - Quote If you can't kill a PROTO suit w/e a all MLT suit, then you are a noob.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 134	Posted - 2013.08.07 02:55:00 - [4] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I am not a noob to this game, but lately i have found myself losing isk due to my expensive suits. The suit i normally run is only about 30,000 ISK a piece, but i die a lot, and the best suit i can run is just all militia, which doesn't help much. Can anyone help me build a suit that is cheap but also effective? and please do not use all militia equipment. What are your skills like?
calvin b Molon Labe. League of Infamy 211	Posted - 2013.08.07 02:57:00 - [5] - Quote Get a BPO suit and weapon, then you can run advance mods and still come put cheap.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2013.08.07 03:27:00 - [6] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: If you can't kill a PROTO suit w/e a all MLT suit, then you are a noob. Please stfu or be helpful. @CoD IsAIDS I have Amarr medium dropsuits level 5, Amarr Logistics dropsuits level 4, Assault Rifle Prof. level 1, scrambler rifle and Mass Driver level three, and have level 1 in Caldari and Gallente medium drop suits. and just by knowing that i run Logistics, then you should know what types of equipment i run. @calvin b I do not have any more AUR, because when i did not fully understand this game i bought a militia assault rifle blueprint (yes i know i can use this in my fitting) and spent the rest on bpc's. @Eternal RMG thank you for the idea and i will definitely try it out.
Guildo Crow ZionTCD 84	Posted - 2013.08.07 03:28:00 - [7] - Quote Hmm . I would focus more on changing up your tactics. The standard Militia suits aren't that bad and you should still be making a fair amount of money with them regardless. I would focus more on sticking with your squad. If you have a hard time in the assault department, you can earn a lot of WP (translates to extra ISK at the end of the match) By just repairing your team-mates, or throwing down standard nano-hives and drop uplinks. Always, always stick with your squad, and never chase someone down. It's better to get the kill assist, than a risky kill followed by a death. Sorry I didn't provide any actual fitting advice. I would suggest searching the forums for the "Dust Fitting tool" - it's a google spreadsheet app that does what the name suggests. Good hunting.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 134	Posted - 2013.08.07 03:33:00 - [8] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: If you can't kill a PROTO suit w/e a all MLT suit, then you are a noob. Please stfu or be helpful. @CoD IsAIDS I have Amarr medium dropsuits level 5, Amarr Logistics dropsuits level 4, Assault Rifle Prof. level 1, scrambler rifle and Mass Driver level three, and have level 1 in Caldari and Gallente medium drop suits. and just by knowing that i run Logistics, then you should know what types of equipment i run. @calvin b I do not have any more AUR, because when i did not fully understand this game i bought a militia assault rifle blueprint (yes i know i can use this in my fitting) and spent the rest on bpc's. @Eternal RMG thank you for the idea and i will definitely try it out. Not suits and weapons, your core skills.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 378	Posted - 2013.08.07 03:51:00 - [9] - Quote Well since you have an Amarr logibro I'm thinking you should stick with that one. Use the STD Amarr logibro: -EXO Mass Driver -STD/Toxin SMG -(2x) Complex damage mods -Complex Armor Repairer -Basic Plate -Flux nades -Nanohive & Nanite Injector I'm not sure if you can fit all that in a STD logistics suit. If not you may need to lower the power of the modules. But try to always keep an ADV version of your main weapon, they're very powerful. Not sure if you can equip the Assault Scrsmbler Rifle? You could use that one and change damage mods with shield extenders. Let me know how much it costs. If it's too expensive (+20k ISK) you may need to equip an STD weapon. -XOXO
EternalRMG ZionTCD 542	Posted - 2013.08.07 03:55:00 - [10] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Well since you have an Amarr logibro I'm thinking you should stick with that one. Use the STD Amarr logibro: -EXO Mass Driver -STD/Toxin SMG -(2x) Complex damage mods -Complex Armor Repairer -Basic Plate -Flux nades -Nanohive & Nanite Injector I'm not sure if you can fit all that in a STD logistics suit. If not you may need to lower the power of the modules. But try to always keep an ADV version of your main weapon, they're very powerful. Not sure if you can equip the Assault Scrsmbler Rifle? You could use that one and change damage mods with shield extenders. Let me know how much it costs. If it's too expensive (+20k ISK) you may need to equip an STD weapon. -XOXO this doesnt seem cheap to me

xSaloLx GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 101	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:35:00 - [11] - Quote Patrick, if I recall right you're a logi. So use your std logi suit w/: Weapons: >Assault Rifle (More rounds than militia) >Milita SMG/ STD side arm of choice (he's amarr, btw) >Milita Locus Equipment: I'd suggest different builds here based on the situation. Personally, I'd choose a militia needle and militia repairer, but also start using uplinks (great for points if hidden well) and hives. High: >2x Milita Shield Extender Low: >Basic Armour plate >Milita Repairer This should only cost around 10k I think (mine does anyway). Stick with Heavies or large groups and away from the front lines and repair/heal. You're there for support, not fighting. Only shoot if you have a good opportunity, if not, GTFO. Start learning to survive and kill with cheep stuff, then your extra health and firepower will just augment your skill rather than you relying on your gear.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:36:00 - [12] - Quote Guildo Crow wrote: I would suggest searching the forums for the "Dust Fitting tool" - it's a google spreadsheet app that does what the name suggests. I tried using that once and it was impossible for me to do anything.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:38:00 - [13] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Well since you have an Amarr logibro I'm thinking you should stick with that one. Use the STD Amarr logibro: -EXO Mass Driver -STD/Toxin SMG -(2x) Complex damage mods -Complex Armor Repairer -Basic Plate -Flux nades -Nanohive & Nanite Injector I'm not sure if you can fit all that in a STD logistics suit. If not you may need to lower the power of the modules. But try to always keep an ADV version of your main weapon, they're very powerful. Not sure if you can equip the Assault Scrsmbler Rifle? You could use that one and change damage mods with shield extenders. Let me know how much it costs. If it's too expensive (+20k ISK) you may need to equip an STD weapon. -XOXO this doesnt seem cheap to me IKR...but he doesn't want militia modules, and ADV modules aren't that good so I guess it's proto modules. I don't think he'll be able to fit them lol. Militia modules it is if you want a cheap fit... -XOXO
RA Drahcir Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:45:00 - [14] - Quote Just do not go forward with all of the other noobs, like me, suiciding into battle. Stay back, play conservatively and tactically. You're a logi? Logibro it, plenty of teammates will retreat to you for reps and ammo.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 464	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:47:00 - [15] - Quote Starter Fit Sniper. If you can't make it rain ISK with that, then I don't what to tell you (without sounding like a prick) Toss on a Complex Damage mod or 2 (or 3, or 4) if you're feeling rich.
CoD isAIDS Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 135	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:52:00 - [16] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Starter Fit Sniper. If you can't make it rain ISK with that, then I don't what to tell you (without sounding like a prick) Toss on a Complex Damage mod or 2 (or 3, or 4) if you're feeling rich. That's good for kills in the battle academy. At best, he'll annoy people in ADV and up suits.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 29	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:54:00 - [17] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: If you can't kill a PROTO suit w/e a all MLT suit, then you are a noob. lmao okay sure
Acezero 44 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 126	Posted - 2013.08.07 04:55:00 - [18] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I am not a noob to this game, but lately i have found myself losing isk due to my expensive suits. The suit i normally run is only about 30,000 ISK a piece, but i die a lot, and the best suit i can run is just all militia, which doesn't help much. Can anyone help me build a suit that is cheap but also effective? and please do not use all militia equipment. make a farming setup. 1) droplink - check 2) 8k isk drop suit - check 3) Tac Ar or scrambler, - check 4) roam enemy objectives @ 65m or protect yours @ 65m -check just stay alive and pick off people out of position. or, be a sniper..
Paladin Sas Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 193	Posted - 2013.08.07 05:00:00 - [19] - Quote -dragonfly assault suit -toxin ar -toxin sub -m1 locust -complex shield extender -complex light damage mod -nanohive -advanced armor rep (might be basic, cant remember) -advanced cpu upgrade =17thousand isk
Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 185	Posted - 2013.08.07 06:12:00 - [20] - Quote Hello, Patrick. I think the most helpful thing I can do is to give you exactly my suit's specs, so you can give it a try yourself. It's a very simple suit and really not "out of the box", but it's versatile and gives you some survivability. Before we go, we have to count I have CPU and PG core skills to Level 3: -Caldari Militia (yes, very cheap) 1x Basic Shield Extender 1x Complex Shield Extender 1x Basic Armor Plate Standard Assault Rifle Standard SMG Standard Locus Grenade currently, but with these PG upgrades you can fit any Standard grenade you like, Flux or AV Basic Nanohive COST: 9675 ISK My stats (I benefit from Core skills: Armor LV1, Shields LV3. I also do a lot of damage thanks to AR Profiiciency Lv4) Shields: 338 Armor: 192 Stamina 150/15 Shield Recharge: 15 Speed: 4.85 m/s Sprint: 6.79 m/s Basically, I'm getting the best (almost the best, actually, if you have CPU/PG Lv5 you can upgrade 1 slot of your choice for few more ISK) out of a crappy Militia suit. I really don't feel like running cheaper than this.

Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1663	Posted - 2013.08.07 06:21:00 - [21] - Quote Standard Caldari medium suit Standard Assault rifle Standard SMG 2x militi shield extenders 2x basic armor plates Compact nanohive and whatever grenade you want, thats the bare bones suit I use when I want something a little more survivable than a free suit, I dont know if you have your core skills maxed but youll have 600+ ehp with this set up
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2	Posted - 2013.08.07 07:20:00 - [22] - Quote Thank you all for your answers, they were very helpful (and Salo you're a logi too you should know i get armor reps without a rep mod anyway) and i will be trying out your fit suggestion, Pandora, and your's Fat Princess. @CoD isAIDS sorry about that i wasn't sure which ones you wanted to know. my core skills, i think, are shield extension level 1, armor plates level 3, and i forget the rest but i'll get back to you on that. AND to everyone that mentioned armor reppers for my low slot, i already have an armor rep of 4 hp per second, being a logo. Thank you for your suggestions!!
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 3	Posted - 2013.08.07 17:37:00 - [23] - Quote @FATprincess I do not have complex damage mods, so i replaced them with basic, and the entire suit costs about 20,000 ISK.
Seras Vikutoria Seraphim Auxiliaries 17	Posted - 2013.08.07 17:40:00 - [24] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: I am not a noob to this game, but lately i have found myself losing isk due to my expensive suits. The suit i normally run is only about 30,000 ISK a piece, but i die a lot, and the best suit i can run is just all militia, which doesn't help much. Can anyone help me build a suit that is cheap but also effective? and please do not use all militia equipment. read this if it will help you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=92870


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