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Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 177	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:41:00 - [1] - Quote ...when PvE will be introduced. Multi Massive... How is this term related to this game? The first problematic factor is the player count. Multi Massive... 4000 players? Impossible. There are 2 reasons why I might try to define DUST a MMO, but they are not solid enough, right now. 1. It co-exists with EVE. Unfortunately, I can't really feel this part of the game's mechanic. EVE has no really influence on DUST and DUST players have no idea of what's happening to EVE. Most of them don't even care. DUST and EVE players cannot play together, the only connection is in-game communication. I don't mean DUST and EVE players should be able to play "simultaneously", as they are two different games. There are several possible ways to improve the connection between the 2 games and PvE could be a huge opportunity. A well-built Pve would bring a lot of stuff directly connected to the EVE Universe. Just imagine how much of the politics and economy of New Eden would be introduced with real-time PvE DUST missions. And have them directly affecting the other game. Two games tightly connected by PvE. Alliances would be much more important, providing ships and clones to colonize the PvE universe. I got SO MUCH stuff running wild in my mind that I won't even try to organize it and write it down right now, this is just a general thought about this. 2. Planetary Conquest. Well, there is not much to say. This is the only real "MMO" aspect of the game, but it's definitely not enough: The worst thing is that PC is terribly "elitist" and unavailable for new players. Dang, even for "non-new" players. Let's make it clear: It's a brutal experience if you're not prepared, everything is proto and there are Tanks everywhere. Also, you really need to be an ACTIVE player to have some role in PC. This is clearly forbidding for new(ish) players and should be re-designed to allow fresh players and corp to have a decent role in PC and to enjoy a potentially awesome feature of the game and to own some district without getting insta-destroyed by the first PRO-Corp around. Militia and STD gear PC noob battles? I say yes. Newbies need to feel this game ahd reasons to play it. If there's any concrete possibility to make DUST a completely new game, that's PvE. DUST on PS4 will be an important refresh yes, better graphics, increased performances, etc... but having a FUN game is much more important. That makes the difference between an already awesome game going to PS4 and a mediocre game trying to survive thanks to a new game platform. I hope that Devs are really going to do their best for PvE, since I see it the most concrete chance to bring this game to the next level. Different Corps and Alliances cooperating or competing in PvE for colonization and control, simultaneously. Lonely soldiers and squads meeting each other in the open space. Real time support request and joining. That's what I would call MMO.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7017	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:42:00 - [2] - Quote Game: Warframe Max Party Size : 4 Players Max Instance Size : 4 players Max Zone Size : 4 Players World : 100% Instanced, No open world. Instance Types : Small Contained Randomized maps. Game Genre : MMO.
Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 177	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:46:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Game: Warframe Max Party Size : 4 Players Max Instance Size : 4 players Max Zone Size : 4 Players World : 100% Instanced, No open world. Instance Types : Small Contained Randomized maps. Game Genre : MMO. I've never played the game so I can't tell if it feels like a MMO. DUST does not, to me. I'm sorry.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 299	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:46:00 - [4] - Quote MMO definition - please not this sh!t again.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7017	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:47:00 - [5] - Quote Pandora Mars wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Game: Warframe Max Party Size : 4 Players Max Instance Size : 4 players Max Zone Size : 4 Players World : 100% Instanced, No open world. Instance Types : Small Contained Randomized maps. Game Genre : MMO. I've never played the game so I can't tell if it feels like a MMO. DUST does not, to me. I'm sorry. Faction Warfare is that way -> <- Planetary Conquest this away Get involved, try to make yourself useful then.
Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 179	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:49:00 - [6] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: MMO definition - please not this sh!t again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_game
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 2377	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:51:00 - [7] - Quote Honestly, the hope of PvE is what tides me over in this game right now.
Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 179	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:55:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Faction Warfare is that way -> <- Planetary Conquest this away Get involved, try to make yourself useful then. Sorry for trying to show that this game can massively improve with a good PvE. If you think DUST is a good MMO right now, well then. Have fun.
Logi Stician The Vanguardians 96	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:58:00 - [9] - Quote <- Planetary Conquest this away, AFK farm in between! Faction Warfare is that way ->
Acezero 44 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 125	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:04:00 - [10] - Quote Dust is a MMO with an option to Q for pvp, they just need to make the rest of the game now,. I see the glass half full here, at least dust has pvp

Kay High Death In Xcess Corporation 114	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:05:00 - [11] - Quote Pandora, you're beating a dead horse. Everyone alrady knows that PvE is needed. Infact it was supposed to be implemented last year, but with the core problems they had to push it back a little. From the depths of the rumor mills and from what i recal from Fanfest, CCP said that PvE will be comming sometime this year and that it is all but done. As IWS said, get yourse;lf involved in dust and you will see a little more of what is going around, dont be like the QQr's on the forum and just whine and cry all the time. Go and have fun, even if you have to do it yourself.
SoTah Pawp Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 424	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:06:00 - [12] - Quote PvE won't make this any more lobby shooter then it is. CCP's not capable of anything grande to give it a proper MMO title. And I lol'd hard at Warframe being called MMO. I guess so is League of Legends.
Keri Starlight Psygod9 RISE of LEGION 70	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:10:00 - [13] - Quote Agree with the OP about the PvE potential. Seems like every attempt to make a constructive discussion is a waste of time on these forums, just open a "AR are OP" thread and you're gonna get some candies and pats on your back. People putting their time to mahe a thread... ...CPM says make yourself useful. People saying PC has some serious issue and doesn't feel like MMO... ...CPM says play PC. Good example. Daxxis KANNAH wrote: please not this sh!t again. This also helps.
Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 182	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:17:00 - [14] - Quote Kay High wrote: Pandora, you're beating a dead horse. Everyone alrady knows that PvE is needed. Infact it was supposed to be implemented last year, but with the core problems they had to push it back a little. From the depths of the rumor mills and from what i recal from Fanfest, CCP said that PvE will be comming sometime this year and that it is all but done. As IWS said, get yourse;lf involved in dust and you will see a little more of what is going around, dont be like the QQr's on the forum and just whine and cry all the time. Go and have fun, even if you have to do it yourself. This is not QQing, I'm just trying to show how much PvE can help. I'm not having fun with PC right now.
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion 1128	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:29:00 - [15] - Quote I think we can start by throwing in drones as a hostile third party in pub matches. Maps will be opened slightly to add a drone base behind a redline, where they spawn and attack NULL cannons (if they hack it starts firing at both MCCs) or simply roam and kill anyone in their sight. 3-way fights, essentially. Also, turret installations could begin on the drones' side, so both teams have to progress carefully at the beginning. (or simply spawn in with forge guns and swarms) There should also be a way to capture drone hives... but that can come later.
Namirial Kensai Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:31:00 - [16] - Quote DUST is like EVE, PvE will always be a back seat feature for making money when you are otherwise broke, for the msot part CCP wants the EVE universe to be PvP/player-centric, everything done by players for players and against players that being said, PvE will come, but not before more serious and developed PvP features.
Marc Rime Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 113	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:01:00 - [17] - Quote Don't forget the MMO grind, dust has that.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 783	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:19:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Game: Warframe Max Party Size : 4 Players Max Instance Size : 4 players Max Zone Size : 4 Players World : 100% Instanced, No open world. Instance Types : Small Contained Randomized maps. Game Genre : MMO. There you go wolf. Wonder how its going to shape up in another 4 months. Its changes quite a bit in a short amount of time. Also play dragons crown man, it's getting great reviews. it's looks good too.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 862	Posted - 2013.08.07 00:02:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Pandora Mars wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Game: Warframe Max Party Size : 4 Players Max Instance Size : 4 players Max Zone Size : 4 Players World : 100% Instanced, No open world. Instance Types : Small Contained Randomized maps. Game Genre : MMO. I've never played the game so I can't tell if it feels like a MMO. DUST does not, to me. I'm sorry. Instant Battles where you can choose your side is that way -> <- Farmville this away Get involved, try to make yourself useful then. FYP I'll get involved when there is a point to it other than just farming or protostomping.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 862	Posted - 2013.08.07 00:04:00 - [20] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Honestly, the hope of PvE is what tides me over in this game right now. Personally I can say the same, though I am hoping for PvEvP (I want to hunt farmers).

Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2711	Posted - 2013.08.07 00:06:00 - [21] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Game: Warframe Max Party Size : 4 Players Max Instance Size : 4 players Max Zone Size : 4 Players World : 100% Instanced, No open world. Instance Types : Small Contained Randomized maps. Game Genre : MMO. I've heard Minecraft being called an MMO before. How does that work?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7020	Posted - 2013.08.07 00:12:00 - [22] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Game: Warframe Max Party Size : 4 Players Max Instance Size : 4 players Max Zone Size : 4 Players World : 100% Instanced, No open world. Instance Types : Small Contained Randomized maps. Game Genre : MMO. There you go wolf. Wonder how its going to shape up in another 4 months. Its changes quite a bit in a short amount of time. Also play dragons crown man, it's getting great reviews. it's looks good too. I'll give it a spin since FFXIV is down. Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I've heard Minecraft being called an MMO before. How does that work? I don't classify these things other people do.


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