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Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:31:00 -
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Hi, there I have a proposition that I believe would bring more competition to PC and more fun in general to the game. I would like to set up a documented and spectated "Fight Club Show" based on a 12 v 12 format that will be edited and spiced up to be broadcast either on youtube or on twitch.tv (which would be a cast of a pre-recorded match in a format that made it feel live.)
For those of you that care about my professional bg, I went to school for 2D & 3D Animation. I'm currently in between jobby jobs (that's code for unemployed), so I'm trying to merge my hobby (gaming/Dust) and my professional skills.
Recommended Viewing that expresses my view of competitive play in gaming (BF3): http://youtu.be/hjoDxrAxEv4
Here's what ideas I have right now. Sorry in advance if anything is a little, I am very tired but wanted to write this all down before I forget.
TEAM COMPOSITIONS | 12 v 12 match play
Squad 1
1. Squad Lead 2. Member 3. Member 4. Member 5. Member 6. Member
Squad 2
7. Squad Lead 8. Member 9. Member 10. Member 11. Member 12. Member
COMMANDER 13. Commander
CREW 14. Cameraman (guy with capture card) 15. Pilot/Driver for cameraman 16. MAP Camera (guy with capture card)
THE FINE PRINT
RULES: Rules will vary patch to patch to better suit the ever changing game play mechanics. We will discuss what these are and make changes as we go.
Examples: -DQ for anyone who kills a crew member -DQ if a commander leaves the MCC prematurely. -Any equipment/weapon restrictions
Myself and the crew will be in a seperate COMMs channel to insure fairness and so I am free to direct/communicate with the production crew
Commander roll? Da fuq? The commander slot will be for a team leader who sits in the MCC who can freely look at the tacnet to give intel and act as an alternate should anyone disconnect. Anyone who disconnects cannot re-enter the match.
PRIZES & SPONSORS: How to make participating worth while using in game mechanics? I was thinking about adding "commercial/propaganda breaks" available for ISK for these match ups. Corps can pay ISK for advertising space to try to help their recruiting numbers or gain support for their team/war/whatever.
What I need
Land and Politics: 2 District's under the movie studio's name and another 2 Districts to a Shell Corp with insurance so I am free to direct, film, and perform the duties and logistics necessary to keep this project alive. I wish to remain neutral to all alliances and merely wish to entertain and I hope to gain the support of the community.
A Dependable Crew I need a few individuals besides myself who have capture cards to properly document fights. Each team will have one camera man that is escorted around by a pilot in a dropship or LAV, and another cameraman recording the entire game's tacnet. So that's 2 camera men per team plus 1 pilot. 3 camera men besides myself needed total. 2 pilots total.
After a match has been recorded, all videos will be sent to yours truly, and edited into action packed awesomeness for your eyeballs and ears.
THE PROS: Fun for everyone patient enough to be involved.
Cool stuff for Moody to edit.
Being able to document and distribute matches we will be able to freely share strategies to encourage players to keep stepping up their game and to keep raising the bar of competition. We want to have fun but we also want good fights.
Cool stuff for everyone to watch
Bacon
THE CONS: I need angel investors (ISK & land).
I need dependable crew.
Lot's of planning involved.
If this is something that the community is interested in I would like to flex the powers of politics to find a way to make this happen. I will edit this as it further discussed.
I would like to find a way for EVERYONE to profit from this idea. Again sorry if any of this does not make any sense. I'm pretty tired. Hope to hear some positive replies.
You can contact me: Twitter: @cyriuslimoody email: [email protected]
In Game Channel: Moody Heavy Industries |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
643
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:32:00 -
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reserved (just in case) |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
643
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:32:00 -
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reserved |
Twisted202
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
306
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:45:00 -
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You got me on board.
Idea: 12v12 torni for the richest of corps. Example 6 corps. cash prizes for top three. entry cost, to cover prizes, attacks and crew costs. Could just make this a weekley/monthly event to broadcast and get those valuable viewers.
Sure this idea can be exbanded more. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
643
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:47:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote:You got me on board.
Idea: 12v12 torni for the richest of corps. Example 6 corps. cash prizes for top three. entry cost, to cover prizes, attacks and crew costs. Could just make this a weekley/monthly event to broadcast and get those valuable viewers.
Sure this idea can be expanded more.
Right on. Let's get this conversation started. I want to bring a tourney/league that is truly something that the community puts together within the mechanics available. I feel this is the richest way we can evolve the meta until we get a "gladiator" mode or something. |
Zhar Ptitsaa
No Free Pass
146
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:03:00 -
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i'll help out in anyway i can :D |
Twisted202
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
306
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:10:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Twisted202 wrote:You got me on board.
Idea: 12v12 torni for the richest of corps. Example 6 corps. cash prizes for top three. entry cost, to cover prizes, attacks and crew costs. Could just make this a weekley/monthly event to broadcast and get those valuable viewers.
Sure this idea can be expanded more. Right on. Let's get this conversation started. I want to bring a tourney/league that is truly something that the community puts together within the mechanics available. I feel this is the richest way we can evolve the meta until we get a "gladiator" mode or something. As for the tournament I think we should it in two tiers. This will be the equivalent of the "major" and "minor" leagues. Your "indie" corps and your "top" corps. Pay outs/prizes vary depending on which "league" they are in. This also gives visibility to up and comers and gives the big guys a place to butt heads outside of normal PC. I'd like to clarify these are CORP VS CORP matches. No ringers allowed. Though we should totally do an "all-star" game.
I don't have much time to talk today, but.
With the current state of PC i think the cost of entry(100mil + attacks,prizes,crew) would be way too high for smaller corps, unless they got sponsors/investors of some sort. Think thats the road smaller corps need to go down. Bigger corps will be comfortable with the entry but they could also acquire sponsors/investors. Which could also lead to an official betting system for these matches. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
643
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:24:00 -
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Twisted202 wrote: I don't have much time to talk today, but.
With the current state of PC i think the cost of entry(100mil + attacks,prizes,crew) would be way too high for smaller corps, unless they got sponsors/investors of some sort. Think thats the road smaller corps need to go down. Bigger corps will be comfortable with the entry but they could also acquire sponsors/investors. Which could also lead to an official betting system for these matches.
I'd like to state that these matches would take place on the land acquired by the machinima studio, which I would control as to cut the costs down on those entering by essentially paying the cost of setting up the attack. So my corp and my shell corp would constantly be "fighting" each other.
I would verify rosters by pulling people into matches where teams could reoganize into squads/commander on the warbarge. It's an annoying process but it's the only way I can think of that I can maintain control of production. This also is a way to sort of keeps the same concept of "planet fight club" intact.
As I don't actively participate in PC I'm a bit oblivious to costs, and a little wishy washy on the mechanics. If I'm getting any of this wrong.
Official Betting System: I do not gamble in real life, so I'm not entirely awesome as this stuff. I'd love to hear some ideas. |
Captain-Awesome
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
474
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:54:00 -
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I'm on bored for this, I don't have a capture card but can help where needed, good layout |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
643
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:00:00 -
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Original Post Updated 8:04 AM EST |
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Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
419
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Posted - 2013.08.06 15:13:00 -
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I can be a dropship pilot for a camera man |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
643
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Posted - 2013.08.06 16:41:00 -
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I'd like to add this is a most importantly a machinima experiment but am trying to add some fun elements we can take part in. Even if I just get enough backing/funding to do film just a couple matches that's fine by me. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
617
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:10:00 -
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Dig it. Would love to watch battles with cut scenes that switch from first person, to external view through a tank turret to a smooth, panning aerial view with map insets.
You need DS pilots with steady hands my friend. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
644
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:43:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Dig it. Would love to watch battles with cut scenes that switch from first person, to external view through a tank turret to a smooth, panning aerial view with map insets.
You need DS pilots with steady hands my friend.
Excellent point. I know there's quite a few really good pilots out there and I trust in their abilities to fly and take direction. Glad theres interest. This could also prove to be a way to advertise "Ringers Inc" in a "commercial break." |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
644
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:54:00 -
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Moody on Making a Film In New Eden section added. (2:56 EST) |
Zhar Ptitsaa
No Free Pass
146
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Posted - 2013.08.06 18:58:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Dig it. Would love to watch battles with cut scenes that switch from first person, to external view through a tank turret to a smooth, panning aerial view with map insets.
You need DS pilots with steady hands my friend. Excellent point. I know there's quite a few really good pilots out there and I trust in their abilities to fly and take direction. Glad theres interest. This could also prove to be a way to advertise "Ringers Inc" in a "commercial break."
Dunno if u watched eve's alliance tournament that was just on but that had some of the best adverts I've ever seen. Will try to find links |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
965
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:05:00 -
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i definitely want to participate.
moochie is the best dropship pilot in the game, he'll be able to do everything you need and more. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
644
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:13:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:i definitely want to participate.
moochie is the best dropship pilot in the game, he'll be able to do everything you need and more.
Hell yeah. Please, spread the word. The Biggest hurdles in this are the ISK costs (like a real film maker, I am a poor New Eden Film maker, 10m bank account), which is directly tied to the land required. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
965
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:17:00 -
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You could always set something up between planet fight club corps and do it that way, they can bring in the necessary people themselves and it's not a serious fight so you can set up exactly what you want to do.
that way you wouldn't need to worry about getting a plot of land |
Zhar Ptitsaa
No Free Pass
148
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:19:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eve+xi+adverts&page=1
Can't find the funny ones but there's still some good ones there! |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
644
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:21:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:You could always set something up between planet fight club corps and do it that way, they can bring in the necessary people themselves and it's not a serious fight so you can set up exactly what you want to do.
that way you wouldn't need to worry about getting a plot of land
I was considering this as option for the "test runs" as I only really need a few matches to try to figure some stuff out / get a "pilot" to the community within a reasonable turn around.
If the pilot is successful within the community we can look into "renting" land to help film a larger tournament over a short amount of days. I'd prefer to be in control of districts during the filming of a full sized tournament, should it come, so I have complete control of scheduling. However, this would be considered a Soon(tm) plan if I were CCP. Afterwards, districts would be returned to their owners.
Ideally this would take place on Planet Fight Club as this is the reason they're all there anyway, right? |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
644
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Posted - 2013.08.06 19:23:00 -
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Zhar Ptitsaa wrote:http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=eve+xi+adverts&page=1
Can't find the funny ones but there's still some good ones there!
These are perfect examples of what I was thinking of. |
Hammerhead LandSharkX
Liberum Sapiens Xenodochi
5
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:02:00 -
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I will throw isk at this if everything else falls into place. Can't offer much else but an upvote and a bump. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
648
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:05:00 -
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Hammerhead LandSharkX wrote:I will throw isk at this if everything else falls into place. Can't offer much else but an upvote and a bump.
Every little bit helps. Spread the word. All I need is a little bit of traction to get things started. |
Bojo The Fantastic
Bojo's Grand Bazaar
25
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:11:00 -
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Bojo's Grand Bazaar will gladly handle bets and I have contacts to some good Dropship pilots (Condor Squad) for camera if needed. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
648
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:17:00 -
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Bojo The Fantastic wrote:Bojo's Grand Bazaar will gladly handle bets and I have contacts to some good Dropship pilots (Condor Squad) for camera if needed.
Moody Heavy Industries is a supporter of local business.
Now to get Spero Escrow to play accountant.... |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
1882
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:42:00 -
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ZionTcd and Multiplexgaming.com[url]http://Multiplexgaming.com[/url] will help out and support in any way.
Once donation prog is ready, I have isk/ Aur on stand by as well |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
648
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:47:00 -
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Zion Shad wrote:ZionTcd and Multiplexgaming.com will help out and support in any way. Once donation prog is ready, I have isk/ Aur on stand by as well
Thank you Shad and Multiplex Gaming. I hope to build something alongside you guys to provide entertainment for New Eden and new players. I'll be in touch. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD
1882
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Posted - 2013.08.06 20:59:00 -
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Lets chat soon and see what we can do. I'd like to see what u can do |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
538
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:07:00 -
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Give us an oportunity to bet for a team, and get a prize if we win |
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
649
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:22:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Give us an oportunity to bet for a team, and get a prize if we win
the way I see the prizes/broadcast portion of this working is this: All bets will be placed and finalized before teams participate with the officially sponsored third party (Right now it's looking like Bojo will be providing this service). Since the tools are not available to provide a nice and neat multicamera cast via twitch we will "premiere" an episode via twitch. After the "premiere" of this we will distribute payouts. Chances are everyone will know the outcomes of the matches before we broadcast (unless we convince everyone to keep their mouths shut for a few days) so these people are merely waiting on their payouts on the broadcast date.
I'm sure we could also put together a lottery/raffle as well if there's enough interest.
After the cast on twitch, the show will be distributed on my youtube channel for future enjoyment. =) |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
539
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:36:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Give us an oportunity to bet for a team, and get a prize if we win the way I see the prizes/broadcast portion of this working is this: All bets will be placed and finalized before teams participate with the officially sponsored third party (Right now it's looking like Bojo will be providing this service). Since the tools are not available to provide a nice and neat multicamera cast via twitch we will "premiere" an episode via twitch. After the "premiere" of this we will distribute payouts. Chances are everyone will know the outcomes of the matches before we broadcast (unless we convince everyone to keep their mouths shut for a few days) so these people are merely waiting on their payouts on the broadcast date. I'm sure we could also put together a lottery/raffle as well if there's enough interest. After the cast on twitch, the show will be distributed on my youtube channel for future enjoyment. =) "good" broadcasting idea:
Get the Broadcaster in a Dropship, make him be in a blaster turret, crop image, like that i will be like being in a helicopter with a camera |
Preda The Collector
Dust Reports
26
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:51:00 -
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Hey, i sent you an email |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
649
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:52:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Give us an oportunity to bet for a team, and get a prize if we win the way I see the prizes/broadcast portion of this working is this: All bets will be placed and finalized before teams participate with the officially sponsored third party (Right now it's looking like Bojo will be providing this service). Since the tools are not available to provide a nice and neat multicamera cast via twitch we will "premiere" an episode via twitch. After the "premiere" of this we will distribute payouts. Chances are everyone will know the outcomes of the matches before we broadcast (unless we convince everyone to keep their mouths shut for a few days) so these people are merely waiting on their payouts on the broadcast date. I'm sure we could also put together a lottery/raffle as well if there's enough interest. After the cast on twitch, the show will be distributed on my youtube channel for future enjoyment. =) "good" broadcasting idea: Get the Broadcaster in a Dropship, make him be in a blaster turret, crop image, like that i will be like being in a helicopter with a camera
Yes, this is how I will be shooting some aerial shots. Tracking/trucking shots will be done with LAVs. The passenger seat of the LAV allows for some of the largest viewing space. I will be experimenting with camera options and executions soon. I'll post a sort of "How to make a machinima in Dust" tutorial which will hopefully encourage others to try their hands at it to help increase the number of "camera techniques" within the game's mechanics. |
Bojo The Fantastic
Bojo's Grand Bazaar
25
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Posted - 2013.08.06 21:58:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Bojo The Fantastic wrote:Bojo's Grand Bazaar will gladly handle bets and I have contacts to some good Dropship pilots (Condor Squad) for camera if needed. Moody Heavy Industries is a supporter of local business. Now to get Spero Escrow to handle contestant buy in's/pay outs.... Anything Spero can do, I can do better
Notice how she says "I can shoot a sparrow with a bow and arrow" |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
649
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Posted - 2013.08.06 22:07:00 -
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Bojo The Fantastic wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Bojo The Fantastic wrote:Bojo's Grand Bazaar will gladly handle bets and I have contacts to some good Dropship pilots (Condor Squad) for camera if needed. Moody Heavy Industries is a supporter of local business. Now to get Spero Escrow to handle contestant buy in's/pay outs.... Anything Spero can do, I can do betterNotice how she says "I can shoot a sparrow with a bow and arrow" Edit: If you really do support local, get Eternal RMG to be camera-pilot. He is condor squad, it's a labor union....you best be putting that in the credits.
Union workers welcome.
we can negotiate salaries and credits! |
Bojo The Fantastic
Bojo's Grand Bazaar
29
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Posted - 2013.08.07 02:45:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Union workers welcome. we can negotiate salaries and credits! I do bets/wagers pro bono, as long as I get a little advertisement or credit. Salaries should be administered to the Dropship pilot however. |
Epicsting pro
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
114
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Posted - 2013.08.08 06:54:00 -
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Count me on board can be pilot, driver and can donate towards the cause I'll hit you up ing game in the morning would like to talk. |
neo2100
Famous.OTF Only The Famous
2
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Posted - 2013.08.08 10:40:00 -
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I would love to film on this project... check out some of my work... youtube www.tinyurl.com/otfamous |
Bojo The Fantastic
Bojo's Grand Bazaar
30
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:27:00 -
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Epicsting pro wrote:Count me on board can be pilot, driver and can donate towards the cause I'll hit you up ing game in the morning would like to talk. Rule the skies, Unionize
-Condor Squad |
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
323
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Posted - 2013.08.08 18:52:00 -
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Bojo The Fantastic wrote:Epicsting pro wrote:Count me on board can be pilot, driver and can donate towards the cause I'll hit you up ing game in the morning would like to talk. Rule the skies, Unionize-Condor Squad
**** the unions, ill scab them and undercut them at every turn, dont let your growing business be held hostage be interchangeable parts. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1411
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Posted - 2013.08.08 19:42:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:**** the unions, ill scab them and undercut them at every turn, dont let your growing business be held hostage be interchangeable parts. don't let your business be ruined by a MIDDLE man. |
Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
322
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Posted - 2013.08.09 07:35:00 -
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How can I or my corporation help? This falls right in line with what my corporation is trying to do, make New Eden more fun.
I personally can't play pilot or film, but I do want to help in whatever way I can. I'm also interested in getting a team in there too...
Really I believe this is a CRAZY good idea. We need more competition, we need more fun, and we need to elevate our strategies and tactics from the run of the mill cheap tricks to get ahead. I also like the fact that it's not limited to corporation and leaves it open for many people. Players from different corps, in the same alliance or not, can join up and dominate. That's pretty kick ass.
So again, what can I do to assist lol? |
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