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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.30 05:27:00 -
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Nobody cares? 
I personally think Gallente heavies will be god-like.
Been Logistics since before it was cool.
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
316
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Posted - 2013.10.30 06:41:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Nobody cares? I personally think Gallente heavies will be god-like.
I care The new heavys will put all the wannabe heavy logis all to shame in defenses. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
2431
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Posted - 2013.10.30 06:56:00 -
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It will be a wonderful day when I get my hands on a Gallente Heavy.
I may have deleted DUST but I still care deeply about this game.
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CharCharOdell
1398
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Posted - 2013.10.30 07:08:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:On a side note, what can you extrapolate from the current vehicles? If and when Minmatar get vehicles, I might actually skill into vehicles for some speeding all over the map type of fun 
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Cosgar
ParagonX
6829
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Posted - 2013.10.30 07:13:00 -
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Minmatar heavy will most likely have a lower base shield than the Caldari, but more high slots for customization- 4H, 1L but can sprint 6.8m/s.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
258
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Posted - 2013.10.30 07:20:00 -
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Minmatar Heavy will be quite nice. Provided, of course, CCP fixes the HMG.
Though, I was thinking about the Caldari Heavy... and while the prospect of having 700-ish? base shields (with sp investment) sounds nice, I can't help but think that the shield recharge rate&delay will severely limit the suit.
I imagine that in order to make a suit that is good, one would have to use all the high slots for energizers and rechargers, and the lows for regulators. Without those, It may take forever for shields recover. It is already painful waiting for 400 shields to recharge at 40/s, with regulators, all on a Caldari Medium frame. I don't want to think how much time a Caldari Heavy will spend waiting for their shields to recover... |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
961
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Posted - 2013.10.30 13:40:00 -
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Gallente heavy: The god of letter camping
Minnie heavy: Is that heavy on kin-cats?
Caldari heavy: Glorified sniper
Amarr heavy: I dont even know what to put here.
"The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
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Jadu Wen
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2013.10.30 14:02:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:
Minmatar:
4h 2l *drools again*
Sentinel:
3h 3l
Bring on the glorious complex damage mods with a HMG in hand!
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9781
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Posted - 2013.10.30 14:32:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Good post +1
Have you taken into account the racial flavours though? i.e.
Amarr - Armour tank [Buffer] slow
Gallente - Armour tank [Active] fast (relatively)
Minmatar - Both tanks [Active] (with one being slightly more optimal, basic suit vs specialised suits shifting from armor to shields), fastest in class
Caldari - Shield tank [Buffer] fast (relatively)
Dust 514 amarr is highest HP possible with shield/armor both being utilized.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier Specialist
Current Theme \\= Minmatar Assault and Logistics =// Unlocked.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
1022
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Posted - 2013.10.30 14:36:00 -
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I didn't know nanite injectors worked on tbe forums too 
Please don't
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3380
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Posted - 2013.12.05 22:08:00 -
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Nice work.
I really can't say anything against it, so I guess I can just leave a cheap, slightly humorous remark.
Are you CCP Logibro?
CoD ----->
<----- WoT
Please AR Scrubs and Tank Spammers, go to your respective games. Leave DUST alone!
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
2635
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Posted - 2014.01.12 17:41:00 -
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I wanted to bump this thread one last time in lieu of the new proposed heavy bonuses of 1.8.
Hope this gets people as excited as I am. 
No, I am not CCP Logibro.
Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
487
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:11:00 -
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Hey bud the Caldari heavy will prob have more highs than lows just sayin. But other than that good post
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
2635
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:13:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hey bud the Caldari heavy will prob have more highs than lows just sayin. But other than that good post
You're actually right.
I originally made this post when shields had a clear advantage over armor, and it would of been sort of OP to give them 4 high slots, but thinking about it now, it probably would be best to change it over.
No, I am not CCP Logibro.
Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
339
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:17:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hey bud the Caldari heavy will prob have more highs than lows just sayin. But other than that good post You're actually right. I originally made this post when shields had a clear advantage over armor, and it would of been sort of OP to give them 4 high slots, but thinking about it now, it probably would be best to change it over.
caldari needs 5 high like the gallente
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
2636
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:22:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hey bud the Caldari heavy will prob have more highs than lows just sayin. But other than that good post You're actually right. I originally made this post when shields had a clear advantage over armor, and it would of been sort of OP to give them 4 high slots, but thinking about it now, it probably would be best to change it over. caldari needs 5 high like the gallente
The thing about that is, there really isn't enough CPU to fit 5 high modules. Low slots have all the best modules as far as customization goes, so it helps the Calheavy to have two of them to do what they wish. Also, shield regulators are a low slot module that you might want more than one of.
High slots are just so streamlined that giving the suit 5 highs would lead to nothing but cookie cutter fits, the only difference between suits would be the ratio between extenders and rechargers.
No, I am not CCP Logibro.
Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
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Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
113
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Posted - 2014.01.12 18:47:00 -
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The Caldari Sentinal would be able to reach about 1k shields and if it also has the proposed blast resistances it will be almost immune to any explosive, even a RE. I am away from my PS3 right now but I recall a RE does like 1500 damage right? So if heavies get a 25% reduction to blast damage (blast damage = explosive?) and a 30% reduction to explosive damage from shields then a RE would only deal about 923 damage.
Additionally they would also be next to immune to dropships as the only decent turret to killing infantry right now is the missile turret. Even with a proto turret it would probably take 7-8 hits with missile splash damage to kill such a suit, that is pretty much the entire clip! And if he had a forge gun it would be no contest.
Infantry: immune to locus grenades but very vulnerable to flux ones, a fair trade I guess.
Tanks: A direct hit from a blaster or rail turret does about the same regardless of how much shields it has.
Dropships: Blasters and rails are about useless vs infantry and missiles would take the entire clip to kill him, while he probably shooting back with something that could kill me in about 3. |
Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
494
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:42:00 -
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Doesn't matter 5 highs for Caldari heavy. Why? It's shield heavy. Gallente heavy can and will have over 1k armor easily and don't forget if he wanted he could just throw on a bunch of reps and kin cats and be a monster. Either way two many highs or to many lows equal op. Give The Caldari what they deserve a true shield tanker
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
494
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:51:00 -
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But I wouldn't mind 4 h 2 low whateves
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
339
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Posted - 2014.01.12 21:05:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote: But I wouldn't mind 4 h 2 low whateves
i would, less slots=boring fits and look at the among heavy proto, only 4 slots, weak.
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
2643
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Posted - 2014.01.12 21:09:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Doesn't matter 5 highs for Caldari heavy. Why? It's shield heavy. Gallente heavy can and will have over 1k armor easily and don't forget if he wanted he could just throw on a bunch of reps and kin cats and be a monster. Either way two many highs or to many lows equal op. Give The Caldari what they deserve a true shield tanker
Is one module slot really the difference between being able to shield tank and not being able to shield tank? Take a second to remember that there are shield regulators that go in the low slots, the Gallente need all five of their lows because there are no armor tank based modules that can equipped in the highs.
I project the Calheavy having two lows exactly because of what you said about the Galheavy, so he can equip kincats and be a monster. There just isn't enough customization freedom to make fun fits with just one low slot.
No, I am not CCP Logibro.
Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
The Phoenix Federation
339
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Posted - 2014.01.12 21:16:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Doesn't matter 5 highs for Caldari heavy. Why? It's shield heavy. Gallente heavy can and will have over 1k armor easily and don't forget if he wanted he could just throw on a bunch of reps and kin cats and be a monster. Either way two many highs or to many lows equal op. Give The Caldari what they deserve a true shield tanker Is one module slot really the difference between being able to shield tank and not being able to shield tank? Take a second to remember that there are shield regulators that go in the low slots, the Gallente need all five of their lows because there are no armor tank based modules that can equipped in the highs. I project the Calheavy having two lows exactly because of what you said about the Galheavy, so he can equip kincats and be a monster.
both heavies need 5 slots at pro, or else the gal heavy gets 4, we need 5 as our extenders are **** and i bet people will run 2 energisers
I use a tablet so beware of typos
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