I already posted in GD but I'll echo it here. I give a no.

Regulators give no advantage in EHP or repair rate. Plus Regulators kind of balances with Armor tankers having advantage in the equipment. Triage hives and rep tools mean MUCH less to a shield tanker.

I think the best buff is making PG/CPU enhancers fit into both slots...highs and lows. This really helps out Armor but is not going to be OP.

Can you imagine someone with stacked reactives in one side with kincats or reppers on the other supplemented with pg/cpu enhancers? Or Armor in both sides (maybe a kincat) along with a Triage hive? You'd have like 1500hp plus.

But buffer is now and should be the winning factor of armor. It seems correct that they could be given a little more of it, especially with the abundance of anti-armor weapons.

As explained several time in the other thread, the extra reps hardly make a difference.

Also, mobility is the winning factor of shields. You seem to be forgetting that each proto plate you put on reduces your movement speed significantly.

Lastly, the situation you described sounds like the pinnacle of active tanking. Just like some people throw on as much buffer as possible to maximize their passive tanking. That situation would strategically benefit armor tankers, and it should. The new shield mods really helped out shield tanking, and once some form of shield logistics comes into the game there will be situations that benefit shield tanking.

I agree Armor should have the greatest buffer... balanced by the need to also have reppers or equipment or a friend. I prefer buffing Armor plates and reppers by a small amount.

There is no over abundance of weapons that target Armor instead of shields... check out this dev blog and count them up http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/.

Extra reps are significant, you downplay it but not something that should be taken lightly.

Shields need a penalty, I know Armor has one and it's probably the biggest chasm between "balance. " Shields have speed but Armor has damage.

The situation was extreme I'll admit. Energizers did not help shield tankers as much as most think. It aided Assault suits a lot but did little for everyone else (good luck fitting one on a scout it is better spent on an extender and logistics put one on its a gain of 12 hp per sec after the delay with a decrease in base Shields again better spent on an extender. )

Plus I like that Armor tankers get the logi bonus ie being repaired it makes them different than Shields. I don't want repairing Shields to come in (at least in the exact same way).

I already posted in GD but I'll echo it here. I give a no.

Regulators give no advantage in EHP or repair rate. Plus Regulators kind of balances with Armor tankers having advantage in the equipment. Triage hives and rep tools mean MUCH less to a shield tanker.

I think the best buff is making PG/CPU enhancers fit into both slots...highs and lows. This really helps out Armor but is not going to be OP.

Can you imagine someone with stacked reactives in one side with kincats or reppers on the other supplemented with pg/cpu enhancers? Or Armor in both sides (maybe a kincat) along with a Triage hive? You'd have like 1500hp plus.

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I think that reactive plates should be a high slot for two reasons:

1. Shield has regulators as a low slot so they can fit a just-for-tank build, armor should have the same option.

2. This would also give high-slot suits an armor tanking option, increasing the abundance of armor meta.

I think that this change would make armor extremely powerful, and if not place it at the same level as shields at the very least give some more fitting options (for variety's sake).

This might actually make armor better than shields...I suppose ferroscales would be a more "balanced" module to make a high slot but I kinda want to see a day when armor tankers stop crying.

Thoughts?

Oh and I personally don't think armor tanking needs a buff I just think this would make it more interesting.

Please?

I already posted in GD but I'll echo it here. I give a no.

Regulators give no advantage in EHP or repair rate. Plus Regulators kind of balances with Armor tankers having advantage in the equipment. Triage hives and rep tools mean MUCH less to a shield tanker.

I think the best buff is making PG/CPU enhancers fit into both slots...highs and lows. This really helps out Armor but is not going to be OP.

Can you imagine someone with stacked reactives in one side with kincats or reppers on the other supplemented with pg/cpu enhancers? Or Armor in both sides (maybe a kincat) along with a Triage hive? You'd have like 1500hp plus.

I agree Armor should have the greatest buffer... balanced by the need to also have reppers or equipment or a friend. I prefer buffing Armor plates and reppers by a small amount.

There is no over abundance of weapons that target Armor instead of shields... check out this dev blog and count them up http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/.

Extra reps are significant, you downplay it but not something that should be taken lightly.

Shields need a penalty, I know Armor has one and it's probably the biggest chasm between "balance. " Shields have speed but Armor has damage.

The situation was extreme I'll admit. Energizers did not help shield tankers as much as most think. It aided Assault suits a lot but did little for everyone else (good luck fitting one on a scout it is better spent on an extender and logistics put one on its a gain of 12 hp per sec after the delay with a decrease in base Shields again better spent on an extender. )

Plus I like that Armor tankers get the logi bonus ie being repaired it makes them different than Shields. I don't want repairing Shields to come in (at least in the exact same way).

Adding a module to the high slot that decreases damage done to armor could work. This would increase the suitability of armor tanks at the cost of damage mods. Even a high slot that increases movement speed or reduces movement penalty would be helpful.

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Adding a module to the high slot that decreases damage done to armor could work. This would increase the suitability of armor tanks at the cost of damage mods. Even a high slot that increases movement speed or reduces movement penalty would be helpful.

I already posted in GD but I'll echo it here. I give a no.

Regulators give no advantage in EHP or repair rate. Plus Regulators kind of balances with Armor tankers having advantage in the equipment. Triage hives and rep tools mean MUCH less to a shield tanker.

I think the best buff is making PG/CPU enhancers fit into both slots...highs and lows. This really helps out Armor but is not going to be OP.

Can you imagine someone with stacked reactives in one side with kincats or reppers on the other supplemented with pg/cpu enhancers? Or Armor in both sides (maybe a kincat) along with a Triage hive? You'd have like 1500hp plus.

Right, the high slot would only be valuable to Armor tanks because Shield tanks have better uses for high slots, and duel tanks would most likely rather have plats and extenders.

Though if they made proto level 50% reduction to damage taken, EVERYONE would be running them. So I really hope they dont do something stupid like that...