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Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 434	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:03:00 - [1] - Quote Why do you even do it?
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 42	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:06:00 - [2] - Quote Fair weapon, dependable, lots of variants, fair ammo supply, easier to spec into, low CPU/PG usage...
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 434	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:06:00 - [3] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Fair weapon, dependable, lots of variants, fair ammo supply, easier to spec into, low CPU/PG usage... but the gun itself is soooooo bad.....
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 762	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:06:00 - [4] - Quote Because is fun...? Believe it or not... some people actually enjoys AIMING
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 434	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:08:00 - [5] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Because is fun...? Believe it or not... some people actually enjoys AIMING ... You don't even have to aim with an AR.... spray it kill something..... done. I cannot wait for the Rail Rifle at least the racial variant of gear are interesting.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 763	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:09:00 - [6] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Fair weapon, dependable, lots of variants, fair ammo supply, easier to spec into, low CPU/PG usage... Rofl ... Lots of variants ? Fair ammo supply ? ..have you even try to use the AR in Uprising ?
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 42	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:14:00 - [7] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: Fair weapon, dependable, lots of variants, fair ammo supply, easier to spec into, low CPU/PG usage... Rofl ... Lots of variants ? Fair ammo supply ? ..have you even try to use the AR in Uprising ? Nope, don't even know what your on about. you don't think 5 variants is enough? and about 4 full mags? (cant be bothered to do the maths, and I don't care) We are talking about the Assault Rifle right? I hate these damned abbreviations
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 763	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:15:00 - [8] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Because is fun...? Believe it or not... some people actually enjoys AIMING ... You don't even have to aim with an AR.... spray it kill something..... done. I cannot wait for the Rail Rifle at least the racial variant of gear are interesting. Well...CCP make sure that is as hard as possible to aim with it. BUT seriously ...EVERY weapon in Dust 514 is spray & pray, or to be more precise ; "Shot anywhere & Kill "
Xero The Mishima Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 269	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:17:00 - [9] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Why do you even do it? Stop whining please, not another AR too OP rant.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 434	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:23:00 - [10] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Because is fun...? Believe it or not... some people actually enjoys AIMING ... You don't even have to aim with an AR.... spray it kill something..... done. I cannot wait for the Rail Rifle at least the racial variant of gear are interesting. Well...CCP make sure that is as hard as possible to aim with it. BUT seriously ...EVERY weapon in Dust 514 is spray & pray, or to be more precise ; "Shot anywhere & Kill " Things like the Laser, MD, and scrambler rifle are so much more entertaining. I need and crave the Rail Rifle.

Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 763	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:33:00 - [11] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: Because is fun...? Believe it or not... some people actually enjoys AIMING ... You don't even have to aim with an AR.... spray it kill something..... done. I cannot wait for the Rail Rifle at least the racial variant of gear are interesting. Well...CCP make sure that is as hard as possible to aim with it. BUT seriously ...EVERY weapon in Dust 514 is spray & pray, or to be more precise ; "Shot anywhere & Kill " Things like the Laser, MD, and scrambler rifle are so much more entertaining. I need and crave the Rail Rifle. So you enjoy that weapons .. GOOD FOR YOU. I enjoy the Assault Rifle. We all different, that is what makes us human.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 203	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:38:00 - [12] - Quote When "adapt or die" is the order of the day, you take the most flexible weapon you can. It's not the most fun, but it is dependable in most situations. Played around with the AUR Ex-0 Mass Driver yesterday. Fun but has massive blind spots that will get you killed (slow RoF, reload speed, projectile arc can be tricky). I'll probably play it as a rear-end logi for some fun but it's not competitive for say PC.
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:40:00 - [13] - Quote What we need is AR variety. The Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle would bring diversity in AR's along with the 3 sidearms that are needed(MagSec SMG, Ion Pistol and Bolt Pistol) instead of everyone rocking either SMG's or Flaylock's. This is the content I want. Throw in the Precision Rifle for all those red-liners that say they're board with the Sniper Rifle.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 764	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:44:00 - [14] - Quote RedRebelCork wrote: When "adapt or die" is the order of the day, you take the most flexible weapon you can. It's not the most fun, but it is dependable in most situations. Played around with the AUR Ex-0 Mass Driver yesterday. Fun but has massive blind spots that will get you killed (slow RoF, reload speed, projectile arc can be tricky). I'll probably play it as a rear-end logi for some fun but it's not competitive for say PC. Are you serious ? .. with the MD you just need to have HALF decent aiming, and you can kill heavies in a couple of shots..You need a full AR magazine to kill a heavy... and most times you also need the SMG to finish them off... THAT IS FUN.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1454	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:52:00 - [15] - Quote Seriously you guys that say you just need to spray with it try aiming sometime, thats how you put down 3-4 guys with one clip
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 764	Posted - 2013.07.25 08:57:00 - [16] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Seriously you guys that say you just need to spray with it try aiming sometime, thats how you put down 3-4 guys with one clip Shhh! Don't say that... they will try to nerf the aiming more... if that is even possible...if the nerf the aiming anymore i don't going to need my right hand anymore.. just strafe and shoot with my left hand.
Dust Project 514 Dust 514 Evolved 214	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:11:00 - [17] - Quote I use scrambler pistols... ARs, Floglocks, and other explosives are too easy.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 766	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:15:00 - [18] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: I use scrambler pistols... ARs, Floglocks, and other explosives are too easy. I haven't seen ONE single SCR pistol since Uprising... so i know you lying. With the current aiming the SCR pistol is impossible to use.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 203	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:23:00 - [19] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: RedRebelCork wrote: When "adapt or die" is the order of the day, you take the most flexible weapon you can. It's not the most fun, but it is dependable in most situations. Played around with the AUR Ex-0 Mass Driver yesterday. Fun but has massive blind spots that will get you killed (slow RoF, reload speed, projectile arc can be tricky). I'll probably play it as a rear-end logi for some fun but it's not competitive for say PC. Are you serious ? .. with the MD you just need to have HALF decent aiming, and you can kill heavies in a couple of shots..You need a full AR magazine to kill a heavy... and most times you also need the SMG to finish them off... THAT IS FUN. Meh, was my first time using it after using AR almost exclusively. I usually use a Gek-38 standard or a TAR with 2xComplex damage mods, takes down most heavies very fast (they can't duck and dodge like a medium frame). My point is niche weapons are fun, in their niche. Outside of their niche they can be frustrating or a handicap. AR is ok at everything so for me it's less fun but more reliable. The TAR is more fun to me because of the design you have to play tactically to keep the enemy at mid-long range.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 766	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:28:00 - [20] - Quote RedRebelCork wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: RedRebelCork wrote: When "adapt or die" is the order of the day, you take the most flexible weapon you can. It's not the most fun, but it is dependable in most situations. Played around with the AUR Ex-0 Mass Driver yesterday. Fun but has massive blind spots that will get you killed (slow RoF, reload speed, projectile arc can be tricky). I'll probably play it as a rear-end logi for some fun but it's not competitive for say PC. Are you serious ? .. with the MD you just need to have HALF decent aiming, and you can kill heavies in a couple of shots..You need a full AR magazine to kill a heavy... and most times you also need the SMG to finish them off... THAT IS FUN. Meh, was my first time using it after using AR almost exclusively. I usually use a Gek-38 standard or a TAR with 2xComplex damage mods, takes down most heavies very fast (they can't duck and dodge like a medium frame). My point is niche weapons are fun, in their niche. Outside of their niche they can be frustrating or a handicap. AR is ok at everything so for me it's less fun but more reliable. The TAR is more fun to me because of the design you have to play tactically to keep the enemy at mid-long range. So if the AR is so easy and so OP... why not everyone uses it ? and more important.. why not every AR user gets 20 kills in every match ? According to you that should be very easy.. but only few people scores 15-20 kills per match with the AR.

Dust Project 514 Dust 514 Evolved 214	Posted - 2013.07.25 09:37:00 - [21] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: I use scrambler pistols... ARs, Floglocks, and other explosives are too easy. I haven't seen ONE single SCR pistol since Uprising... so i know you lying. With the current aiming the SCR pistol is impossible to use. OH REALLY!? Lv5 Pro plus Complex Dmg mods will tell you otherwise. Me and a few others use them. It's pretty rare to see in general, but I'm on almost everyday with them. You just haven't seen me yet. Maybe we should squad up?
Ignoble Son 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 270	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:29:00 - [22] - Quote "This game is so boring when using the AR" It does have its matte moments. But ARs are the work horse of any PVP fps. It is a necessary evil. I've had some pretty good fun with them. They are not all that bad.
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 132	Posted - 2013.07.25 10:58:00 - [23] - Quote I like the variety of weapons in DUST and think that the AR fills the roll it needs to fill well. It's a recognizable weapon for newer players who are too 'afraid' to try something more outlandish. Or just a straightforward weapon for when you can't be bothered by overheat mechanics or weird visuals. I played DUST again this week after a small 2 week break and I was surprised at how well it actually plays in regard to what I thought it was. The weapon variety is nice and the AR is needed for it's role.
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 205	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:09:00 - [24] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: RedRebelCork wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: RedRebelCork wrote: When "adapt or die" is the order of the day, you take the most flexible weapon you can. It's not the most fun, but it is dependable in most situations. Played around with the AUR Ex-0 Mass Driver yesterday. Fun but has massive blind spots that will get you killed (slow RoF, reload speed, projectile arc can be tricky). I'll probably play it as a rear-end logi for some fun but it's not competitive for say PC. Are you serious ? .. with the MD you just need to have HALF decent aiming, and you can kill heavies in a couple of shots..You need a full AR magazine to kill a heavy... and most times you also need the SMG to finish them off... THAT IS FUN. Meh, was my first time using it after using AR almost exclusively. I usually use a Gek-38 standard or a TAR with 2xComplex damage mods, takes down most heavies very fast (they can't duck and dodge like a medium frame). My point is niche weapons are fun, in their niche. Outside of their niche they can be frustrating or a handicap. AR is ok at everything so for me it's less fun but more reliable. The TAR is more fun to me because of the design you have to play tactically to keep the enemy at mid-long range. So if the AR is so easy and so OP... why not everyone uses it ? and more important.. why not every AR user gets 20 kills in every match ? According to you that should be very easy.. but only few people scores 15-20 kills per match with the AR. Not sure if trolling or not.... I'm not saying it's OP, I'm saying it's reliable. Core Flaylock's are an example of OP. Most players do run AR. Last time I did an after action analysis of a corp battle (about 6 weeks ago), the kill breakdown was as follows: http://i.imgur.com/odRf02v.png I don't consider myself anything special (in my corp I'd say I'm below average) and I get 15-20 kills regularly with ARs.
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 766	Posted - 2013.07.25 11:25:00 - [25] - Quote RedRebelCork wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: RedRebelCork wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: RedRebelCork wrote: When "adapt or die" is the order of the day, you take the most flexible weapon you can. It's not the most fun, but it is dependable in most situations. Played around with the AUR Ex-0 Mass Driver yesterday. Fun but has massive blind spots that will get you killed (slow RoF, reload speed, projectile arc can be tricky). I'll probably play it as a rear-end logi for some fun but it's not competitive for say PC. Are you serious ? .. with the MD you just need to have HALF decent aiming, and you can kill heavies in a couple of shots..You need a full AR magazine to kill a heavy... and most times you also need the SMG to finish them off... THAT IS FUN. Meh, was my first time using it after using AR almost exclusively. I usually use a Gek-38 standard or a TAR with 2xComplex damage mods, takes down most heavies very fast (they can't duck and dodge like a medium frame). My point is niche weapons are fun, in their niche. Outside of their niche they can be frustrating or a handicap. AR is ok at everything so for me it's less fun but more reliable. The TAR is more fun to me because of the design you have to play tactically to keep the enemy at mid-long range. So if the AR is so easy and so OP... why not everyone uses it ? and more important.. why not every AR user gets 20 kills in every match ? According to you that should be very easy.. but only few people scores 15-20 kills per match with the AR. Not sure if trolling or not.... I'm not saying it's OP, I'm saying it's reliable. Core Flaylock's are an example of OP. Most players do run AR. Last time I did an after action analysis of a corp battle (about 6 weeks ago), the kill breakdown was as follows: http://i.imgur.com/odRf02v.png I don't consider myself anything special (in my corp I'd say I'm below average) and I get 15-20 kills regularly with ARs. I done my own analysis too .. about 8 people in a team uses AR's, but only 1 or 2 people score above 10 kills per match. The top of the Leader Board at the end of the Battle, is rarely occupied by AR users. Top scores are Tanks, Protobears with Flaylocks, heavies with HMG's, or Squad leaders with Orbital Strikes. So according to that... the AR's are seriously UP,if only 2 of every 8 people gets more than 10 kills per match. BTW,,, the average score of a Normal AR user is 4-5 kills per match.


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