DUST Search - To people screaming OP and UP

Tallen Ellecon wrote:

Every time there is a new weapon or a mechanical change, it upsets the "balance" of the game. It renders certain effective weapons as ineffective, and vise versa. Now with 1.2, explosions and strafing were changed, so now scouts are out, HMGs are useful, and flaylocks are highly effective. This happens every time there is change. Perfect balance is impossible. This will keep happening every single time there is an update. Not every change in balance is intentional, it many times is just a side effect of another change. I posted a thread about how bring back injectors completely changes the battlefield, the same is true for any other change.

So to my point. If you find yourself feeling like your suit and weapon of choice have left you UP, just wait, you will have your day. To those of you who invest into the flavor of the month,don't forget, nothing remains king in New Eden. Pick a weapon, suit, and playstyle that you are comfortable with. Give feedback on how that weapon works well to that play style.

TL;DR

Quit your bitching, HTFU, and welcome to New Eden.

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Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 191	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:10:00 - [1] - Quote Every time there is a new weapon or a mechanical change, it upsets the "balance" of the game. It renders certain effective weapons as ineffective, and vise versa. Now with 1.2, explosions and strafing were changed, so now scouts are out, HMGs are useful, and flaylocks are highly effective. This happens every time there is change. Perfect balance is impossible. This will keep happening every single time there is an update. Not every change in balance is intentional, it many times is just a side effect of another change. I posted a thread about how bring back injectors completely changes the battlefield, the same is true for any other change. So to my point. If you find yourself feeling like your suit and weapon of choice have left you UP, just wait, you will have your day. To those of you who invest into the flavor of the month,don't forget, nothing remains king in New Eden. Pick a weapon, suit, and playstyle that you are comfortable with. Give feedback on how that weapon works well to that play style. TL;DR Quit your bitching, HTFU, and welcome to New Eden.
Manly Vehicle Operator Algintal Core Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:14:00 - [2] - Quote Dropships Your argument is invalid.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 191	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:18:00 - [3] - Quote Manly Vehicle Operator wrote: Dropships Your argument is invalid. Bigger maps will make them not only effective, but also very necessary.
WhiteMage7322 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 140	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:20:00 - [4] - Quote People that hare screaming OP and Up are HTFU. They want to change and make the game better for everyone. People that call out UP or Op are the ones that notice what is wrong. Unlike you OP, saying quit your bitching and HTFU, doesn't help Dust become a better game.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 91	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:22:00 - [5] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Manly Vehicle Operator wrote: Dropships Your argument is invalid. Bigger maps will make them not only effective, but also very necessary. Someone doesn't know that I can two shot any dropship within 600m of my tank or that im getting a hav specifically built for AA pretty soon.
Bob Teller Red STar. EoN. 25	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:23:00 - [6] - Quote Now that i spended all my remaining sp on flaylock,i can say that it's NOT OP.It's just that we flaylock users are very good players,so please dont change it.
dday3six Intrepidus XI 51	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:26:00 - [7] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: Every time there is a new weapon or a mechanical change, it upsets the "balance" of the game. It renders certain effective weapons as ineffective, and vise versa. Now with 1.2, explosions and strafing were changed, so now scouts are out, HMGs are useful, and flaylocks are highly effective. This happens every time there is change. Perfect balance is impossible. This will keep happening every single time there is an update. Not every change in balance is intentional, it many times is just a side effect of another change. I posted a thread about how bring back injectors completely changes the battlefield, the same is true for any other change. So to my point. If you find yourself feeling like your suit and weapon of choice have left you UP, just wait, you will have your day. To those of you who invest into the flavor of the month,don't forget, nothing remains king in New Eden. Pick a weapon, suit, and playstyle that you are comfortable with. Give feedback on how that weapon works well to that play style. TL;DR Quit your bitching, HTFU, and welcome to New Eden. Yes, don't play the game wait...wait indefinitely infact. The game needs new players and players willing to shell out cash to survive. "Just wait awhile." doesn't jive well with a free to play business model. .
Kam Elto KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 13	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:33:00 - [8] - Quote WhiteMage7322 wrote: People that hare screaming OP and Up are HTFU. They want to change and make the game better for everyone. People that call out UP or Op are the ones that notice what is wrong. Unlike you OP, saying quit your bitching and HTFU, doesn't help Dust become a better game. no they're not. they're just whiny little bitches who cry when they get killed. if all weapons and gear were perfectly balanced they would still ***** and cry. they're in every single competitive video game out there. always will be.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1026	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:36:00 - [9] - Quote Kam Elto wrote: WhiteMage7322 wrote: People that hare screaming OP and Up are HTFU. They want to change and make the game better for everyone. People that call out UP or Op are the ones that notice what is wrong. Unlike you OP, saying quit your bitching and HTFU, doesn't help Dust become a better game. no they're not. they're just whiny little bitches who cry when they get killed. if all weapons and gear were perfectly balanced they would still ***** and cry. they're in every single competitive video game out there. always will be. QFT
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 2119	Posted - 2013.07.09 15:46:00 - [10] - Quote The flaylock was OP before 1.2. The sad thing is that everyone was telling them at Fanfest to bring out the nerf bat and beat this weapon, because it's OP. They didn't listen, and this is the result.

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 195	Posted - 2013.07.09 17:03:00 - [11] - Quote WhiteMage7322 wrote: People that hare screaming OP and Up are HTFU. They want to change and make the game better for everyone. People that call out UP or Op are the ones that notice what is wrong. Unlike you OP, saying quit your bitching and HTFU, doesn't help Dust become a better game. I guess you didn't read the part where I talked about feedback being related to each weapon having a particular role. This game doesn't become more fun when "OP" things get nerfed, it becomes more fun when every weapon has a niche and fills it well. I am just trying to get people to recognize that it's important when giving feedback to take that into account. CCP doesn't like content collecting dust for too long, and will always tweak weapon stats in order to make weapons viable.You can find a weapon you like and have fun with it regardless of it's current supremacy or inferiority, as these will be in constant flux. If you want to maximize your killing potential then by all means follow the stats and crunch the numbers and find the best weapon after each update, but don't be shocked when it gets replaced by a new weapon.
Kevlar Waffles Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.07.09 18:09:00 - [12] - Quote Bob Teller wrote: Now that i spended all my remaining sp on flaylock,i can say that it's NOT OP.It's just that we flaylock users are very good players,so please dont change it. B.S. i am an utter noob as infantry and i tried that gun and it is unbelievably OP


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