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Posted - 2013.06.09 11:09:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:
right now noone wants to take part in PC beucase its the A-team club, NO corp is going to field bad players by choice and no players want to spend 1 hour squaring off on the imperfects because they Know they will lose. i am still shocked PC was not tested in any shape or form this could have pointed out at the early stages and fixed
It's sad to see in an FPS people aren't competitive. I would be striving for the next level of excellence - but it seems everyone is just fine with rolling over and blaming CCP for there problems :( |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 13:29:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:An attacking corp should have to wait 720 hours (1 month) before trying that district and its owners again.
Change in ownership would nullify the remainder of the timer.
What???? You want to make this even longer and more dragged out???? |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 13:41:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:
right now noone wants to take part in PC beucase its the A-team club, NO corp is going to field bad players by choice and no players want to spend 1 hour squaring off on the imperfects because they Know they will lose. i am still shocked PC was not tested in any shape or form this could have pointed out at the early stages and fixed
It's sad to see in an FPS people aren't competitive. I would be striving for the next level of excellence - but it seems everyone is just fine with rolling over and blaming CCP for there problems :( If the Imps had remained a small group, just large enough to fill a couple of teams with beasts then maybe there would be something to fight against, if there were actual mechanics to PC. As it is, unless you have the bankroll and the ringers, there is little chance of mounting a successful attack on an NF district. None of the big alliances have ISK to burn fighting Imps with everyone else at their door, and none of the small corps have the talent, gear or preparation to handle the task. So more corps will pass away, donating their few elite players to the NF pool and the game will get more dull. Thankfully, winning at Dust is looking less and less like an accomplishment every day.
"IF" we remained a small group? How big do you think we are? We just happen to all be active unlike some un-name corps whose members refuse to even PC 
League of Infamy and EoN are walking all over everyone - did you forget about them? Or are you too busy ridin' the Imp hate train to notice? If a corp sucks it's there own fault. Should of trained using CB's before uprising when you had the chance. I spoke to shad to set up training matches with you guys and you NO SHOWED.
Excuses - got anymore? Maybe blame lag that everyone gets? Lol |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 14:05:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:"IF" we remained a small group? How big do you think we are? We just happen to all be active unlike some un-name corps whose members refuse to even PC League of Infamy and EoN are walking all over everyone - did you forget about them? Or are you too busy ridin' the Imp hate train to notice? If a corp sucks it's there own fault. Should of trained using CB's before uprising when you had the chance. I spoke to shad to set up training matches with you guys and you NO SHOWED. Excuses - got anymore? Maybe blame lag that everyone gets? Lol I've played in victories over Nyain San and Imperfects so I don't need any excuses. The northern coalition failed, so I can either look for a new home, or go play just as meaningful pub and FW matches until GTA comes out. If CCP had given us an easy way to be mercenaries, then maybe I would provide tanking services, but without a simple way to transfer ISK, I don't see the point in leaving my corp, or having to shuffle around alts just to get paid. Maybe before this game goes in the crapper we can get a good way to have matches without the pointless week long scheduled matches.
If only. if only....
Bailing out of ZTCD is probably your best bet if you want anymore interesting PC matches. Otherwise this game doesn't offer anything in terms of enjoyment anymore.
It's all so... bland I guess you could say. |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:57:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:SoTa while i agree with you to a point, not everybody wants to a second job, or has a natural talent to be awesome at shooters, i dont mind their being leage play for the top teams who get a kick out of being the best, but in a Video game NOONE should every be shut out of content beucase their not good enough.
all that does is create a negative feedback loop where, newbs cant get in and the eltie just drop out one by one, till its only the best team left. this IS what happend in global agenda and it IS!! whats happening here.
no point you bagging on everybody to get better, we dont want to so your not going to get the games you want thats life. nobody will log onto a game to get thier asses kicked. so their needs to be a way for everyone to take part with out getting face rolled or IMPS we just win dust at the game will die.
because every other corp in this game cant get their **** together
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put a very sort way.
Even if a SUCK BALLS at EvE their is a job for me that i can do.
if i suck balls in Dust, might as well not play. <-- their is the problem
I'm glad you said this because I've been wanting to say something for a while
IF YOU DO NOT PUT TIME AND DEDICATION INTO THIS GAME YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET ANYWHERE TO BEGIN WITH.
Do you really expect in any FPS game that the average joe has a chance against guy who put up time and energy to be the best? That's what you guys are facing. League of Infamy, Negative Feedback, EoN, all put time and energy into being the best and are now THE best.
The guy who has work has it rough - no doubt and it's not fair - but what part of this game is fair? Plenty of NF guys have work and are still considered the best so it's not an all that viable excuse. Though this feeling like a second job is indeed lame
EVE would never hire a losing team so this outcome of "Do or gtfo" has been expected from the beginning.
Not saying I don't feel for those who can't put time and energy into this - just that this is something they should of seen coming.
And new guys will eventually catch up - but it's quiet a grind.
I think this is fail personally, but it is what it is.
This game was always - in my eyes - intended to be a cruel universe where the strong survive. So htfu or gtfo. :D |
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:11:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:SoTa while i agree with you to a point, not everybody wants to a second job, or has a natural talent to be awesome at shooters, i dont mind their being leage play for the top teams who get a kick out of being the best, but in a Video game NOONE should every be shut out of content beucase their not good enough.
all that does is create a negative feedback loop where, newbs cant get in and the eltie just drop out one by one, till its only the best team left. this IS what happend in global agenda and it IS!! whats happening here.
no point you bagging on everybody to get better, we dont want to so your not going to get the games you want thats life. nobody will log onto a game to get thier asses kicked. so their needs to be a way for everyone to take part with out getting face rolled or IMPS we just win dust at the game will die.
because every other corp in this game cant get their **** together
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put a very sort way.
Even if a SUCK BALLS at EvE their is a job for me that i can do.
if i suck balls in Dust, might as well not play. <-- their is the problem I'm glad you said this because I've been wanting to say something for a while IF YOU DO NOT PUT TIME AND DEDICATION INTO THIS GAME YOU WEREN'T GOING TO GET ANYWHERE TO BEGIN WITH. Do you really expect in any FPS game that the average joe has a chance against guy who put up time and energy to be the best? That's what you guys are facing. League of Infamy, Negative Feedback, EoN, all put time and energy into being the best and are now THE best. The guy who has work has it rough - no doubt and it's not fair - but what part of this game is fair? Plenty of NF guys have work and are still considered the best so it's not an all that viable excuse. EVE would never hire a losing team so this outcome of "Do or gtfo" has been expected from the beginning. Not saying I don't feel for those who can't put time and energy into this - just that this is something they should of seen coming. And new guys will eventually catch up - but it's quiet a grind. I think this is fail personally, but it is what it is. This game was always - in my eyes - intended to be a cruel universe where the strong survive. So htfu or gtfo. :D thier is nothing wrong with that mindset but it does not work in a MMO where need everyone needs to take part you cant have an open game modes where its just the 3 best units kicking everyone elses ass, you can say harden the **** up or GTFO. but thats frankly a ******* retarted saying beucase everyone was will just get the **** out and you have a dead game. is that want you want only a game where the elite can play and everyone else can just **** off?? (thats sounds harser than intended but thats all im getting for the 1% here. this does not lead to fun game play where not here for your entertainment. this is a game where it is fun for everyone. my point is in EvE i can do somthing else and still be taking part, in dust their is no other option, so everyone just quits and you have a dead game mode
Sounds like you want PvE. PC was always intended for the elite and dedicated and not the casual. Eventually the casual can try PC but likely will get stomped. There is NOTHING CCP can do to change that. All they can do is pacify complaints by giving other options for people to play as the elites play the core of this game.
Even with more districts opened up you're just going to see the small guy get picked on everywhere. It's an unavoidable fate and part of the FPS genre. And then in return the even bigger groups will pick on them, and then bigger groups on them, and so forth and so on. Once EVE can send us contracts it's going to get even worse as elites dominate.
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