Spkr4theDead wrote:LOL If you say so. How is what I said so hard to understand?
"The sky is dark and it's not yet 6pm, therefore it might rain." Is that so hard to understand?
Do you not see the difference between that and your ridiculous OP?
Let's break this down. You open the thread with:
"Over 15,000 damage from a Wiyrkomi swarm launcher. Is that enough for you? Do you want double that? When will vehicles be nerfed enough for you?"
We can assume from the OP that you are upset with the damage-dealing capacity of the swarm launcher. You believe that some unidentified person wants to increase the damage and ask whether that damage is high enough or whether they want to double that. You ask when vehicles will be nerfed enough for this mysterious, potentially hypothetical person.
People see that and they assume you mean you thought you took that much damage in one shot. They assume this because of common sense. They reason "nobody in their right mind would complain about that much damage over the course of the match" because it's a basic mathematical fact that in a scenario where someone is capable of repeatedly dealing damage, the total damage is going to increase over time. Given that mathematical fact, 15k damage from a weapon capable of inflicting thousands of damage per volley of swarms doesn't seem unreasonable.
You respond by asking "Why should I be defeated so easily?" The obvious answer to that, of course, is that you were defeated by receiving (if we assume the Madrugar you later reference is your tank fit) more than twice the total health of your tank. (That's a weak tank, by the way, I have more HP on my Madrugar on 500k SP alts.)
Some more derping occurs in which it comes to light that you understand that the 15k damage came from more than one volley and are still dissatisfied with it. This is similar to an assault player receiving 2000 hitpoints worth of damage because they kept healing and failing to avoid getting shot, then complaining that it was possible to deal that much damage to them at all.
Then you attempt to define the point of the thread again: "You're still missing the point of the thread. Will you be happy when militia swarms can one-shot my Madrugar with > 6700 armor?"
Nobody has suggested that and you're returning to a discussion about damage per volley, after trying to deny that was the point of the thread. You're also establishing a strawman argument.Is the point of the thread to establish strawman arguments? It seems so.
"Yeah, then you'll be happy." Oh, yeah. Then you confirm your own nonsense suspicions without receiving any feedback in between because you're a basket case.
Then people make fun of you for a while until you come in and once again assert that the thread made sense despite nobody understanding what the kitten you were blathering about and now we're here.
Spkr4theDead wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:I love it when tankers pull the "I've spent more ISK and SP" card, as though that automatically entitles you an "I win" button.
Because me, like a lot of people that have spent the SP necessary to make strong vehicles, believe that the current available AV options are too powerful for the vehicles we have right now. My what, half year's worth of playing is nullified by a guy that just got out of the Battle Academy because someone said to get a suit with a lot of slots on the left side and put a militia swarm launcher on it.
Armor gets the best options with vehicles, but explosive weaponry has a bonus against armor. Shield has a natural passive resistance to explosive weaponry, but because of the powergrid nerf, trying to get strong defenses means going for weaker offense. It's not like that with dropsuits.
Like we've said before. There's access to PRO AV gear, some requiring proficiency. Vehicle drivers have access to "complex" modules and PRO turrets, but with STD hulls.
Is THIS the point of the thread? You think that AV weapons are too powerful for the vehicles we have?
Guess the **** what? "The AV weapons are too powerful for the vehicles we have" is a legitimate way to express that viewpoint and not at all opaque like this absurd thread has been.